Art Bell, Dr. Robert Monroe & Skip Atwater - Out of Body Experience - Black Screen - Interview Only -- z8zWEZaHKiE

[00:53:30] case uh the need outweighs anything else and uh three years ago uh uh my wife Nancy uh contracted breast cancer and as a result uh I in my typical demand way said well let's let's provide vide a system whereby uh I can uh be [00:54:00] sure that she goes to a place if she passes on and dies that I would be able to find her and be with her. item came out then that u uh I had as you read in the book I discovered that all the way back in the 60s I had been uh escorted to a place called the park which is a way station uh for people after they've died so they can cool off from the >> uh trauma as it were of dying and figure out what they want to do next. [00:54:30] >> Yes. Anyway, it's from that and researching that and also with the areas of people who I knew had already died, we set up a program uh called lifeline which Dave may have described to you, but which in essence is one to in turn help u uh uh get totally familiar with the process of moving from focus 23, which is right after physical death, up to what we call focus 27. seven, which is [00:55:00] the park. We didn't invent the park. It's been there for millennia, I found out, to my great surprise. But anyway, uh we've had we as of now, we've had three years roughly 400 people have uh participated in this particular program. And they have made uh during the program only. And during the program, each of those 400 people have made five runs retrieving someone out of focus 23 who were bewildered in [00:55:30] shock and escorting them up to this way station park where they can cool off. Each has done it five times. How many does that make? Those documented runs is a total of 2,000. >> Wow. >> Big stuff. >> Big stuff. Yes, sir. uh and they do in turn and there is a we have a post-graduate study on that going where we are verifying the the data of the person who who had just died and uh try [00:56:00] to get the trying to get information that can be verified. It's quite difficult because it's out of time if you understand what I mean. >> I do. >> Somebody has been wandering around in 23 and not knowing what to do and bewildered for maybe a hundred years. >> Right. Okay. Well, that leads me to this. You discussed the concept of time being a physical earthly phenomenon. Uh >> yeah, that's right. >> Accepted as a condition of entry. I I gather this uh that lives, times, and events are happening simultaneously. [00:56:30] This is a very confusing concept. >> It is. It is indeed. And was uh it's very very surprising how uh we are locked into certain things that are peculiar to time space and time is one of the key ones. And when you get up into these other states of being uh you got to realize that time is not you can you can go backwards or go forwards and uh uh this in your own personal life and in other lives you are locked into uh we [00:57:00] think uh 1994 but it isn't so >> but it is not so >> it is not so. What do you think of lucid dreaming as a springboard to having an OBBE? And also, where do dreams fit into the picture? Do they? >> Well, I I'll I'll pose the real thing that's getting more and more our theme, and that is that uh uh lucid dreaming is the equivalent, we found out over the [00:57:30] years, did that long time ago, uh is the equivalent of our focus 15. Lucid dreamers can uh evaporate the dream. And there he is >> in and the equ he's in the equivalent of our focus 15 >> which is a nice place to play in terms of no time because you can then move that time around in other areas. how to do dream things. The one thing that we've come uh we are we call it a process of converting unknowns into [00:58:00] known or converting beliefs into known that they're they are not particularly important unless you can do so. Well, uh, one of the things is that, um, what, excuse me. Um, >> all right. >> The important, uh, thing is that we have grown to know that what we are is far more than this one single life. And the uh, we are totally in a form of [00:58:30] consciousness that is very local as it were. And the dreams that uh are interpreted to this are the a means of our total self uh attempting to get signals down to this conscious self here. And that's why u uh they sometimes are very wild and sometimes they're very funny and sometimes they're just pure information. But uh uh that seems to be [00:59:00] that the direction that we feel that humankind has to go is to begin to get past this discriminator circuit and that's what we we are doing and get into that knowledge of that totality of what we are and that it's being done. We're not the only people doing it. Of course, >> Mr. Monroe, you've done very important work. It's known internationally. Uh I [00:59:30] want to ask you a hard question. >> All right. >> When your time comes and you pass, what uh what will happen to the Monroe Institute and will the work continue? >> Uh that is very specifically uh uh in uh has been set up to do to do that. There's much too many uh people involved in it. U not just here but as you said worldwide. I can give you a number of illustrations but uh it is being set up so that it will it will [01:00:00] have a support system uh to continue uh well into the uh into the 21st century. >> Well, that's wonderful to hear and uh I know a lot of people have wondered about it. Uh if we could, Mr. Monroe, very quickly, let's try and begin to take a couple of calls here on our toll-free line. You're on the air with Robert Monroe. >> Mhm. >> Hello. Hello. >> Yes, sir. Where are you calling from? >> Seattle, Washington. >> Okay. Do you have a question? We don't have a lot of time here for >> Yes, I do. I would like to know where [01:00:30] Mr. Monroe first learned about this technology. >> Okay. Um, we've kind of covered that. Uh, I would say, but Mr. Monroe, a quick answer. >> Quick answer where I learned about it. I found about it the hard way. Uh, the I I'm the monkey that fell out of the tree, if you want to put it that way. and I had to figure a way to get back up into the tree. >> So really um through a personal um uh experience it began some uh uh all by [01:01:00] itself uh you set out on a quest to learn what was happening to you. >> Exactly. Mhm. out of necessity as a matter of fact and I I uh the one of the most surprising things that hasn't come up has indeed come up in recent years uh that back in those early days I had an exquisite amount of help and uh even today I cannot assure anyone exactly where that help came from. [01:01:30] >> One has to wonder Mr. Monroe, how many people uh worldwide are going through exactly what you went through, perhaps without the support system uh that that you luckily have nearby? Mr. Monroe, we're going to break here for the new Mr. Monroe. >> Yes. >> Uh yes, sir. Um again, it sure is a pleasure to have you on here. >> Well, it's fun for me because I can um open up a lot of things and uh don't have to be nearly so formal. But remember, radio is my old business. >> Oh, it's a wonder. I I love radio. Um [01:02:00] Mr. Monroe. Um, somebody just sent me a fax and they're asking about two things. One, in your travels, um, um, have you, do you have any insight on two questions? One is, have you ever met with a being or met a being that is not human? And >> Oh, yes, I have. >> Oh, yes, you have. >> Yes. Mhm. uh uh and let's put it this way it is indeed limited but uh the thing that I [01:02:30] discovered not unreasonably is that uh we are a curiosity to other beings uh also uh uh they have no particular desire to dominate it or something like that uh we are nice experimental uh uh species as it were Not much more than that. >> That's my impression. >> And the other is um do you have any [01:03:00] better understanding because of all this of of our creator or a god? I have very much that uh uh one of the things that I had it all the time and didn't realize it that is that uh this uh this earth life system uh is a a created process and a creative process and um I can as an engineer go look at the leaf on a [01:03:30] tree and see the design of it and what it aim to through and that is it's an it's a transducer as it were and it can stand all sorts of winds and everything else and when it's through for the year it drops off. That's really a very scientific creative thing from my point of view but it is creative. >> Yes. And then uh uh in working on this further, one of the things that was so utterly fascinating to me that there are [01:04:00] portions of this uh focus 27 beyond this is beyond time and space. Believe me, it's the last vestage of of human active human thought. But there there I was astounded to discover that there is some type of energy field there that lets the human the human mind be a creator >> and and create carbon life. I was astounded to discover that. Moreover, uh, one of my [01:04:30] part of my contract, I guess it was for the help that I have received is the idea that going into going back and looking at the source of this creative process. And I got as far as uh uh what is I called the emitter for lack of a making a common term and the creator or creative process is behind that and there is a aperture through which one can go but not until [01:05:00] they're complete as this the people waiting or people it's not quite the word the beings waiting to go through there massive things uh they pass some of this information along to me and Yes, that's one of the things that in turn has certainly come very much to my knowing and that is that uh I know as I sit here how our civilization uh is restrained in terms of anything that's [01:05:30] non-physical. We don't know anything about it in any way, shape or form. and the options that are available to us after we are no longer physical here. uh instead of being one of them of course is being the human addict and go back and live another life because you get addicted to being human. But there are so many other opportunities or options along that spectrum of energy and one of them is to go and [01:06:00] I put it in the crude way. I try to make it in things ways that we can understand it now. >> And that is to shake the hand of the creator and say this a great job. Not prostrate and and in adoration, but just to say you're a real smart one. >> All right. >> Wow. All right, Mr. Monroe. Let's go to the phones. Every one of them's locked up and wants to talk to you. So, go ahead. Uh, let's do it on on the wild card line. You're on the air with Robert Monroe. Good uh good evening. >> Hello there. This is Ritz Calling. When Shirley Mclain's five-hour television [01:06:30] special, Out on a limb, was aired way back in January of 87, some of her highlights was astral projection. It did make a lot of waves. Of course, her book with the same title did make the radio and television interview circuit years before that. And many, many millions of people were exposed to the OB subject. Now, Robert, we need another catalyst to push that subject to the people's attention. After all, they could join the cosmic college for free. >> Yes, indeed. Well, um uh we uh we are we have not [01:07:00] made a big point of being widely known yet. Um uh we did a a slight study to indicate how many people users have been used in the methods that we have we have available and put forth out of demand but not out of advertising. And uh we figure that there have been a little over 2 and a half million users [01:07:30] of these various types of uh exercises on tape that we've we put through out through the years. And uh these are a means of beginning to do the very things that you're talking about. >> Um Mr. Monroe, I recall uh he mentioned Shirley Mlan. >> Yeah. Oh, another thing that reminds me I got very amused uh that uh in uh Shirley's uh movie in her picture uh I