Art Bell, Dr. Robert Monroe & Skip Atwater - Out of Body Experience - Black Screen - Interview Only -- z8zWEZaHKiE

[00:00:00] Good evening everybody. This should be quite the program. As promised, we will have Robert Monroe of the Monroe Institute here. What an honor that is Monroe. Actually, Robert Monroe, just Robert Monroe. Coming up next, uh he'll tell us about the Monroe Institute. Have you ever wondered about travel? Uh not the type you take on a domestic airline, but the type you might take from your own body. Robert Monroe did. He'll tell you about it coming up. You're listening [00:00:30] to Dreamland. Good evening everybody. The Monroe Institute travels from the body. The Monroe Institute was founded by Robert Monroe, a former broadcasting executive who began to undergo spontaneous experiences in 1958 that drastically altered his life unpredictably and without willing it. Mr. Monroe found himself leaving his physical body via a second body to explore loces unbounded by conventional [00:01:00] concepts of time and space. He has documented these experiences in Journeys Out of the Body, a double day book in 1971, published in eight languages worldwide and in far journeys double day 1985. The Monroe Institute had its origins in the research and development division of Interstate Industries Incorporated, which began investigating methods and techniques of accelerated learning in the late 1950s. [00:01:30] That investigation led to some remarkable discoveries that dealt with the very nature of human consciousness. As a result, the basis of the research effort was expanded considerably. In 1971, the institute was created to supplement that research effort. As a school, the Monroe Institute is composed of two divisions. And we will hear from spokesmen of both. The education division, which conducts classes and seminars and disseminates tapes and other materials in direct application of [00:02:00] the methods it has developed, and the research division, which conducts ongoing studies in enhancement of human consciousness and the development of methods and techniques that may result in practical use thereof. And that uh is from uh a Monroe Institute uh pamphlet. And here all the way from Faber, Virginia is Robert Monroe. Uh Mr. Monroe, welcome to the program. It is an honor. >> Well, I'm glad to be here. [00:02:30] >> Uh G, do we have more than one person on the phone line here? Because it's very uh it's very weak. >> It's very weak. >> Very weak. Yes. >> Well, we can uh uh we can take one out and see what happens. >> Okay. Hey, we're going to have to do that because I can't hear you. Uh >> better now. >> Uh that's a little bit better. Uh are you now the only uh phone line on? >> No, I'm the only phone line on. >> Oh, that is much much better. >> All right. >> Much better. Anyway, welcome. Uh it sure is an honor to have you here, uh Mr. Monroe. [00:03:00] >> Well, uh I don't know what's going to going to happen after all that meteor stuff. >> Yes. Isn't that uh isn't that quite the occurrence? >> That was very very interesting. Um, Mr. Monroe, um, if you would please take us all back and tell us how this began for you. >> Well, it, um, it's, uh, an odd thing because it was, uh, unexpected is a better way to put it. Uh, back in, uh, 1956, uh, my company was looking for [00:03:30] some, uh, diversive type of things to do. So we got the idea that perhaps we could in turn uh uh help people learn during sleep. So being a specialist in sound because of all of our company history uh we in turn obviously began to use sound. First thing we found out in order to help people to get to sleep, we got to get them to sleep. So what we did was develop some particular sound [00:04:00] waveforms that help people go easily into sleep. And then we were beginning to test that after that. Uh I being one of the chief subjects uh oh uh uh that we started in 56 and in uh 1958 I began to notice some odd effects of it. >> Oh. >> And uh it was a funny kind of uh vibration and that's what it felt like except it wasn't a physical vi [00:04:30] vibration. And uh I went uh to my favorite doctors and so on and they said, "Oh, no. You're fine. Don't worry." And uh so I finally had the courage to wait to see what this instead of forcing myself out of this vibration. I finally said, "Well, if it's going to kill me, I'll let it kill me and I'll have to try it." So I stayed with it and after about 5 minutes, it faded out. And uh so therefore I I tolerated it when it went from uh and it didn't happen every [00:05:00] night. Maybe oh once or twice a week or something like that. So I had I would wait till it completed and then after it was through uh or faded out well then I'd go to sleep. And on one fateful night in September of 58 uh I was on a Friday night waiting uh for this to fade away. so that I could go to sleep calmly. And in the midst of that, I uh [00:05:30] began to think, well, tomorrow was Saturday and being a sail plane pilot and member of up in the New York area, uh I was thinking that a cold front would come through and there'd be a nice beautiful ridge lift and thermals the next day and on a Saturday and I'd be flying around in gliders and sail planes. And as I was thinking how nice that would be in the the uh sense of soaring power that there is in a thermal in a glider, uh all of a sudden I felt [00:06:00] my uh myself bumping against something and I looked around and uh to my surprise I was uh on some type of flat surface and I said, "I wonder what this is. This is a strange kind of dream. I'm fully conscious." And uh then I looked around and I thought, well, here is a this is a a strange thing to dream. Here's the thing that looks like a a a fountain coming out of the out of the uh floor as it [00:06:30] were. And then I suddenly with a shock realized that the what I thought was the fountain was the chandelier in in the bedroom. >> Oh my. And so I turned with utter uh astonishment and rolled over and I in that bumping against the ceiling. I looked down and there in the um bed below there I was in the bed below and there was my wife lying in bed beside me except the as I saw it at first I didn't [00:07:00] think that I didn't recognize myself because I here I was bouncing against the ceiling. What was that? So, my first thought was, "What a dream. I wonder who I'm dreaming is in my bed with my wife." >> And after a sudden little poster look, and I'm still against the ceiling, I realized this the man in bed with my wife was I. So, I frightened. I said, "I'm dying. This is a dying process, and [00:07:30] I'm not ready to die yet." So I fought my way vigorously swimming down through the air as it were and and somehow popped back in my body and I sat up and looked around and there's my wife soundly asleep and I looked up and there's the ceiling with a chandelier and I obviously didn't get to sleep that night. >> What an incredible experience. Now you you said that you were experimenting with some sounds uh or some audio in order to assist you with sleep. Can you [00:08:00] can you amplify on that? What were you doing? And >> well, this was a a a pattern that we had we had developed, but I hadn't I hadn't done anything with it for over a year and nobody else had uh had anything remotely like this particular effect. >> Okay. So, it was not due to that and whatever was occurring to you was utterly spontaneous. >> It seems that way. In other words, I we were looking for any types of uh of possible answers. And that was when we thought well that would affect uh other [00:08:30] people cuz we had about a hundred subjects that we had used in it but it didn't affect anybody else anywhere not even a semblance of it. >> So anyway, excuse me. Uh the uh most important thing was that uh I was so sure that that that that was a beginning of a dying process and I was terrified and you can't imagine how terrorist stricken one can be or panicstricken because I uh every time after going to doctor and not [00:09:00] finding still any uh interesting comment about it um I had great trouble of letting myself let that happen and let it and finding that if I released or just let go a little bit when that took place, I would float it out of my body and each time I thought I was dying. So anyway, uh that went back into more physical exams and um I finally got the courage to uh go to a doctor [00:09:30] psychiatrist friend in New York named Lewis Walberg and uh he said well he says I can tell you one thing. He says, "I know that I know that you're sane. Uh, I know you too well." So, don't worry about any psychotic thing because you're not that type. Well, I I said, "But what'll I do?" He said, he says, "I don't know. You can go into psychiat psychiatry and find it if you want. Might take a little while, but and I [00:10:00] said, "Well, I'll think about it." So anyway, uh after about 10 additional episodes, something like that, I finally realized that this floating out and floating around the room was not going to kill me because I could think a certain way and I'd get back in my physical body. >> Until that moment, though, it must have been absolutely terrifying. it was and and I could not I couldn't get uh being very much an engineering type I couldn't find any uh any common scientific [00:10:30] answers for it. The only one was is dualism psychosis and things like that. >> So that was the big problem because I couldn't find an appropriate answer. So uh after about the 10th time I finally realized well this is not going to kill me. I'm not in the death process. Well, that made something else come up entirely worse. That's curiosity. >> I'm I'm sure it did. Yes. Uh >> this is my contribute. What is it? [00:11:00] Anyway, um so uh I began to experiment with it uh around the room and so on and just I could I found I could only go a certain distance away from my physical body and was as if there were something holding me back. And I finally answered that because I realized what it was and the other part of the life secret as it were. I the thing that was holding me so heavily [00:11:30] was that I had this very strong sensual sexual urge and uh uh I of course obviously tried to wake my wife in that. >> Had no luck there. And that that was binding you uh >> it was keeping me close to my physical body because it was related to a physical drive. Anyway, I used the uh old gene principle on that finally and to to overcome my need to go beyond 30 [00:12:00] ft from the body. And you probably don't know the gene technique, do you? >> No sir, I don't. >> No, you're too young. Uh Gene Autry uh had a a uh thing where in turn he did a lot of you know who I'm talking about. >> Oh, of course. >> Yeah. Well, he he had a formula that was very very effective for uh uh pre- puberty children who came to see his uh [00:12:30] movies on Saturday afternoon and in in a movie house, no TV. To make it very short, what the technique was that uh he in the movie he would meet a girl and then uh he would have his big fight with the bad guy and he would overcome the bad guy and after he overcame them, he'd go to the girl and he'd say, "Oh, Jean, you're so wonderful." He'd look up with purse lips [00:13:00] at him and Jean would look down and all the audience and he learned this how who can tell through the years but all the girls were going and all the boys said oh he ain't going to kiss her is he so what he did learning that he had a formula that fit his his pictures that what he did he says he said to the girl honey I I love you and I'll I'll and I'll get