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[00:40:00] get into the control booth and he'd have often something for us to do or things to try and most of the ideas were his ideas. Oh, he was just free rain. And at that time there was only one focus and that was 10. And then eventually there was a 15 and it was a 12 and then a 15 and then they started going up and up to higher numbers. But there's nothing magic about the focus points. They're just, you know, random places to help people have experiences of a particular type. But anyway, so we were at the very
[00:40:30] beginning of all of that and then we had this thing at the Tahoe and Bob decided he was going to make another corporation and that's when tmi was invented first in his head and then became an actual thing and what years later he sold whistlefield and picked up some new land and he actually got that new land in a in a land swap sight unseen he picked up that land in a in a land swap. He was in
[00:41:00] a course where they swapped land and some other guy had his land and was come forward and said, "I'll swap you this for that." And uh he went to see it and it was beautiful. He loved it. So that's where tmi then got it was called the new land. Then I remember getting a Jeep with Bob and we went out to see the new land. So that's really the origins of of tmi, you know, and and he took those binaural beats, he embedded them in the sound that he already had, and that
[00:41:30] became his hemisync. Mhm. So that uh that's kind of the you know the very short story of of Bob Monroe but I spent probably most of a decade probably five or six years intensively there 15 to 20 hours a week and then I was on the board the board of maybe not directors or the advisory board for a while. Well, I
[00:42:00] moved out. I moved uh away from Charlottesville. So, I'd come back to for your board meeting. I gave a talk at one of their professional seminars that is up on YouTube. But so, that's kind of my the time frame that I was in. But during those say five or six years that it was intensive, I learned a lot. I learned an awful lot. And one interesting story that I will tell that the readers will probably find interesting is that one day after well I
[00:42:30] guess the way it went is first but we came Dennis and I came to the lab we worked Bob came we had our things Bob went down to the house and invited us so Dennis and I would go would go with Bob down to his house this was usually like 10 11 12:00 you know a.m. in the next day and we'd stay there till 2 or 3:00, then we'd go home, go to bed, get up at uh, you know, 7:00 in the morning, go to work. So, that was our schedule. So, we were down at Bob's house and he was telling us about a
[00:43:00] thing that he had just had. he had out of body and he often would discuss his out of bodies with Dennis and I and he'd explain what he did and what he explain what he experienced and we'd kind of talk about what did it mean and that sort of thing cuz my job was to come up with a with a model of how it all worked. Dennis's job was to do the a lot of the engineering of putting the equipment together. So anyway, this one thing Bob had this experience. He said, "Let me tell you about this experience." And he told me about a test that he had
[00:43:30] and he told me the first test, a series of tests. He told me about the first test and then he told me about the second test. And when he did that, a whole memory dump just flowed back into me. And I told him, "Stop. Don't tell me anymore. Give me a minute." And I got all this data dump. I had taken that same series of tests when I was much younger and I
[00:44:00] was when I was like seven eight non-physical entities came and put me through a training course and this test was was toward the end of that training course. So I told him wait a minute all right here was your third. And I told him what the third one was and his mouth dropped open like how did you know? Were you there? And I said no I was there a long long time ago. I took the same test. So then I told him the next one and then he told me the next one and I told him we went through the whole series right up to where we both bombed
[00:44:30] and the tests were over. So either that was the last question or we both got the wrong answer. How interesting. So it's as if there's some sort of a out-of- body school that you both attended and after decades the test was still the same. Yes. And there's a lot of people get test and testing is a thing that happens a lot. mostly fear tests, but in this case it was how grown up were you? How much ego, how much belief, how much other things were getting in your way
[00:45:00] and and how much did you actually, you know, how much have you grown up is kind of was what the test was. And the the questions got harder and harder and harder until you weren't any you weren't grown up enough to answer the next one. So anyway, there are lots of tests and I have run into people since that have had taken tests that I have taken also and some of them are very complex. There's a lot of, you know, there's a lot going on there
[00:45:30] and when I inquired about it, I was told that when they find good tests that work well, they keep using them. Who who is they? Who is they? Is the larger consciousness system. We're a system of consciousness. We are consciousness and we're part of the system of consciousness. And the thing that's that's really nice about it is that the point of this is to grow up to get rid of the fear, get rid of the ego, get rid of the beliefs.
[00:46:00] And that uh come to that later when we talk. that you can also talk about in terms of entropy reduction or you can talk about it in terms of consciousness evolution or consciousness quality. So the whole point is to increase the quality of your consciousness. But because we're a part of that system as we evolve and increase the quality of our consciousness, the whole system gets a plus up if we get a plus up because we're part of the system. You know, it's
[00:46:30] us, we're it. So we're part of its strategy for its own evolution. And you have this system that now is motivated for us to succeed and to grow up because we grow up, it grows up. So I gather you had these guides who were testing you as a child and and then you forgot about it. Well, and it was a little more than just forgot about it. I
[00:47:00] had this this uh I had an entity come to me. I was probably six or seven somewhere in that age and he came to me and offered to he didn't say out of body I didn't have any of that nomenclature but uh offered to give me an experience that I would that I would enjoy. And I had talked to these entities before. I had always had other non-physical friends. I was a very
[00:47:30] rightbrain young kid, you know, so talking to non-physical people was just part of life. I didn't know that everybody else didn't do it. I figured everybody did this just like I did. So, it wasn't unusual. I didn't think anything special about it. And one time they came and said, "Would you like this experience?" And I said, "Sure, let's do it." They popped me out of body. I was like, "Wow." And I went out through the window. I played with it and I could go right through a window and that was amazing. I got near the ground and I
[00:48:00] started moving and then I got to this hedge that was between my yard and the neighbor's yard and it was like, "Oh no." And I went right through it and I thought it was fun. So I played with it. And they did this for me three or four, five times to the point I was very used to it. And I would travel I could travel around the neighborhood and see what was going on in the various houses where my friends lived and whatever. So, I thought it was a lot of fun. And then I said, "I want to learn to do this
[00:48:30] myself. I don't like that you do this for me. I want to learn." And they said, "No, we really don't want to teach you that. You're not ready for that yet." And I complained. I said, "No, I want to learn to do this on my own." So, they said, "Okay." So, they told me what to do. And I did that. And of course, they were facilitating this whole thing. And I started this oscillation like Bob talks about. And it got stronger and stronger and stronger until I was like a
[00:49:00] a flag in a gale, you know. I was just whipping around. I said, "Okay, okay, quit. You can do it." And I could see they were going, "Huh, yes, that we took care of you, you know." So that I didn't have to have that experience. They gave me that just to chill me so I wouldn't be doing it. But I did learn. They did teach me. And the thing that's that we're getting to here is they enrolled me in this course. I would come out and they would teach me how to manipulate things, how to deal with things in the non-physical. All
[00:49:30] right, I played with it. I could move. I could go through things, but I just randomly was whatever. So, they taught me how to how to move, how to be quick with my intent, how to hone my intent to where I could I could very quickly do things. So there were tests in that like there'd be a little little lights that were lit and I had to walk from here to there and just touch the lights. But and I walked up to it. I thought, "Well, that's easy. I can just step from one to the other." But then they'd move. You go
[00:50:00] to step on a light and slide over. So you get that one and you know the next one would slide around and you try to get it and it'd slide. And then the lesson was use your intent. Use your intent to make them stay still. And then, okay, I did that and I had an attention. Next light, you go right there and stay still. And then I walked all the way across and, you know, I got a gold star for that. And then I got to the point that they could stay like this. And I could just kind of
[00:50:30] jump from one to the other. And one would come automatically and land right under my foot just as I needed it. So I didn't have to really think more of it singly, but I could do the whole ensemble at once. And I was doing that on one thing. And Bob was evidently watching me and I went next time. Now this was when I was a kid, but Bob was mo watching me when I was doing something similar to that as an adult. I got these tests all along. So that just popped into my mind. One time Bob was watching. He said, "You were a bit of
[00:51:00] showoff, weren't you?" And I said, "Yes." Because I'd gotten to the end of it and I'd done one of those things like the football players do at the Enz. He called me out on that. And uh but Bob was watching you when you were a child. No, no, no, no, not across time. No, no, no. I just jumped across time cuz when I said it, that other idea jumped into my head. But when I was a kid, I learned to do these these things and I was in a training course and I would be drilled over and over and over to use my intent. And these things then
[00:51:30] went away once I got to the point where I had kind of passed to where they thought I should be. Mhm. And I had a something. And I should tell you that when I was out of body, I wasn't a child. I wasn't six or seven years old. I was an adult. I was like 25. Mhm. And then when I come back in my body, I turn back into a seven-year-old. And I do that slowly just to just to feel the difference. You know, here you are and you're in charge. You're in control. and you come back and you're this little
[00:52:00] person and uh the mind was the same but the body was very different. So anyhow I did that and then one day when I was there these two guys showed up and I talk about this in the book. These two guys showed up and what they were going to do was the condalini thing. They were there and they had like work orders and they they said this one's only a little kid. You sure you got it right? the other guy looks does checks his paperwork. Yeah, I got it right. It's