change I felt that their science, their concept of their ex- istence, and of reality, was in many ways similar to our own, and that they were fixed in that reality. They could not travel out of it, as I had traveled out of physical matter reality. They seemed to believe that they were fixed in their reality and couldn't really travel out of it... I don't know whether they even believe that there was any other reality besides their own...
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EXPLORER 3 15 They had a physical science as much as we do, in that the object in their reality obeyed very specific laws... I tried to see if any of their laws were similar to ours, such as gravitation, which was hard to tell. I could not point out what their concept of reality was. All I could do was trans- late into my own concepts, meaning, I did not see them floating around in air, but whether that was because they experience a thing like gravity like we do, or whether that was a function of my own experience —visualizing humanoids not floating in the air— I could not tell... I did feel that they had a basic physical science that ruled the objects of their reality. They did not move things around by thought processes or anything like that... it seemed sort of like an Earth-type physical reality to them, although I don't recognize many of their devices and structures, which seemed very foreign to me. They seemed to be fixed and isolated with these devices and structures. Somehow I appear to them as one of their own kind —whether that is humanoid or not, I don't know— maybe I should have tried to find out where they think I came from, or who they think I might be... END OF RECORDING
EXPLORER 4 — EXPERIMENT IN MULTI-LEVEL EXISTENCE —NOTICE OF PREPARATION OF EARTH CHANGES