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1986-08-23 - KLM-4
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1986-08-23 - KLM-4
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Okay, Karen, you want to just stay there and feel that for a moment. You can give
consideration now to your intent again here and a good place to just be in tune with that. And
knowing that you can you're open to whatever that intent might be, if you want to be in touch
with the Lazarus energy. Are you aware of that? By any chance at the moment, is there any
energy you're aware of where you are The
Blue Pearl started, which I. Just started. I'm starting to feel the awareness.
I don't feel it is strongly, but there's something there. It's as if the guides are heavier on the left,
which is different.
The source is there little different than he was on the right, but he's there,
focus right back on the center. There the center in your awareness. Yes,
same to see there's a face, just like an eye or face watching. It's as if it changes, but it's, it's it's
watching, maybe just the darkness in my eyes, but it seems more than that.
Can you address your attention to this disappearance? Do you draw closer to it? Let's
see, no, it's not exactly it just keeps changing. So but I
I definitely feel a presence of my left
you feel like you might turn toward that and give a Welcome to the presence, invite it to be
more fully with you.
Okay, welcome it. Yeah,
it's just there. It's just there. If
Well, we extend our welcome, and would it would welcome also any any communication from
this energy. Let's ask if, if there is a wish to communicate of any kind, and see if we can get a
yes or a no. Okay. We haven't had a we haven't had a sense of reply there, right?
Well, it just, it's just a sense of being there that's
perfect. We just allow it to be there.
It feels like they're just being there, I would do want to invite the energies or energy to be with
me, to to communicate and to
definitely just,
I want to have a sign, or I would like to have. Some knowing
and, and I want to just put that out as the intention,
yes, I understand. We can, you know, invite, the invite the assistance of whatever energies are
available here in moving your consciousness out now and let it move outward and onward,
taking yourself through the state of focus 10 and the state of focus 15 just moved your
consciousness out now, beyond this whole globe, beyond the solar system, move one out to
focus 15, and either report to me when you're there, or Share with me whatever is happening
in this process. Okay, you
I feel like it's deepening. There's a part of my mind though that comes up with
just busy details that I'm going to see if I can allow That to quiet,
just continue To be totally relaxed. I
my body is getting much more relaxed,
as if the left side of my face is that not paralyzed, but The beginnings of that feeling
Just turn it loose. I
i Seems so breathing is changing
very nicely and.
It feels like I would notice the ability to talk if I allow myself to go further.
Mm, hmm. No, this is what you feel like doing. Now,
in a way, I would
sit
I don't know that that would be the case, but I seem to be drawn to just go deeper in.
Why don't you go with that? If that feels good and feel comfortable,
it does. She can talk to me later.
You'll stay in the sound of my voice, and I'll ask you how things are going from time to time, but
you can release the sense of need to vocalize, okay, and unless it returns, something you can
share. And I'll break in so we will be we won't lose contact here.
It seems all right. Seems that's the worst thing to do.
Be perfectly safe. Okay?
There were a series of faces that just could have come and go. They could have looked at me
or just appear. That's straight front of
me. They just appear and then pass on disappear,
kind of sometimes they linger, and they don't seem to have much expression.
That doesn't sound as if you're recognizing them from before I
did a few. That's what got my attention as I went deeper, because I remembered an old Indian
i. And his face was there,
Almost, I don't know. I
This is energy in the left that's, that's,
that's light. It feels like it's moved up to my shoulder and
there's a feeling of rocking as it's Almost coming around me, I feel like I'm rocking, rocking in
the Energy. It's making me feel
welcome to that energy. Yes,
there's knowingness that
I need to I they want to come through,
and the things I need to do to help the process.
It would be helpful to listen to tapes that I have. I at home, and I see it's to go to bed listening
to A tape I
but that will allow the
see it's
it will invite them. It will invite them when I do that,
that's very good information. We appreciate any help that we can get additionally, here
seems that
there more energies coming around. It's like the energy is strongest on the left. The source is
still over my right eye. It's like a light, but it's a presence that
there is a. That from the point down the center, but it's different than it was in the past.
How different I
let's say, sense of two layers. But rather than have them split down the middle, there are layers
on top of one another, like the darker layer is underneath. There's an identical lighter layer on
top, and it's the center, and I'm swinging or swaying in them, like the body is just it's like the
feeling the looseness of the energy body and
can You can you ask what this should mean to you?
Let's see what does it mean. I
it say it's a sense of calm, like it's a word. Wholeness, but it's it's like pieces, those pieces are
in place,
that the layers, the upper and the lower, they're just in place. Other things are going to come
into place. It's a foundation. It's solid, well, it's solid. Well, the energy body is kind of what it is,
is like, if you've ever been to where there's water, where they have large cut
rocks,
large square cut rocks on top of each and then when the water comes in and covers And laps
over them, and then it goes out like those rocks are in place, and the energy body feels like the
water. Then it's moving around those rocks. They're flat, square, but uneven.
There. It's easier to see the one on top by my stomach,
but it's like the trunk, they mean solid, solidness, like I keep getting the word Whole, but I don't
know how that means whole,
it's like that's all there is.
This is still in reference to the to. The layers,
two layers around. There's one that would they're like cake layers only. They'd be square rocks
facing and there's energy flowing around and through the middle in between, like pyramid
rocks,
but the lower level you first described was dark. It's darker on top, now darker on top, now
lighter. It's like a lighter rock on the bottom, but it's, it's like,
sounds like the light body can change places with the darker body, if those are parts of the
same structure. The
there's something about wholeness it means, and I don't know what
it means. Well, it sounds like the darker and the lighter that are interpenetrating and forming
some single body of some single structure or system. It's like
this center with the energy rolling around. It might be, it might be male, female balance.
Remember, I remember the sliding under of my female guide. It doesn't feel the same, but it
I'm getting the memory of that sliding under feeling, but it's not like it's doing it now it's trying to
tell me it's in place. It's what the wholeness has to do with that. It's
the male is on top dark that it see it just is. So it seems that that part of me is in place and
things are operating around it. Now,
what's operating around it are the energies and my guides are, whoever they are, our balance
on the right in the left of me.
It's like there's nothing over my left eye, though. Seems that surge for the Soros. It feels like
that energy is there. I don't know why it chooses that place.
There's a still over the right eye, yeah,
it's there. That doesn't seem to change. I have a sense that it's there, even when I'm not here,
it's just that I'm more
aware of it. It's almost if you could get it to hold still and turn your head, you could have it in the
center of your forehead.
Would that be good?
I don't know. You might see if you could see it then with both eyes. Or you could ask clever
Lazarus direct to move around be more
visible.
Move to the left. Now I see both sides, and there's the there it is the pyramid that over the right,
over the left, and extend it out in front. It's that pyramid coming together in front of the center.
And. They
say, pyramid.
Could you approach the pyramid? Is that a possibility? Let's
see. I
Yeah, that's it. It's like going into the void. When I approach it, it becomes like a i
It's a window. It would be a hole that could be the edge of time and space. I think I'll jump
through all right? I think I'll jump
okay, you're fine.
I'm just peeking in there. It's pretty vast. The one to
jump you can do that you'll still be able to hear me.
Let's see I could there are two friends of mine these little guides. One is like one of the old
dwarfs. You know the Seven Dwarfs, sure. And one is like a a sprite that sky wings. And when
I go to time space, they show me where and they they give me permission to jump it away.
It's like, it's like they're keepers of the See, they know where it's at.
It's like,
it's like, I can ask them to show me and they'll take me there, but see the guy was there and
then they came.
They kind of want me to jump.
They'll probably help you if you want them to.
Okay,
it's like they know that i
i seen me do it before. They're just waiting. So I think I'll try to think I like to roll into it like at
first somersault, sure,
yeah, like I'm falling. I
You're right. We're falling with you. I How are you now?
Feeling light.
Well, you are light. Yep,
it's light. Feel light.
That feels good. I.
I'm choosing to be brighter. It's like I'm transforming the energy into when the memory
of the rocks.
It's like I
that's not dated. I
just accept the experience. Share what you can i
I've become a White Pyramid where the fall I get stopped?
How does it feel to be the White Pyramid?
It's laying like I'm laying as if it's over me.
Can you experience the inside of the pyramid? What is that like?
It's bright, right? But it feels so good. See, it's like, wherever I it's like that, wherever I wherever
I focus, Wherever I look, it's like it becomes brighter and limitless, and I'm getting energized.
My brain's changing, just as though it's almost too much energy.
Very neat place to be. What have a strong thought here, are there any messages here for me?
Are there
any huh?
Any face of a friend I
and they're knowing that this Is
this is her. I
I feel emotions.
Together. I
I just keep, keep talking, telling me,
just all comes together.
It's. Where they are at
that focus point for the white lines are all there. They don't i
You're doing Fine. You
it's a
it's like
changing forms so that I know more that she's reading there, that they're all there. It's like I
hadn't thought of this before, but he speaks about being a ball of white light, you know, as a
way of talking about but it was there, was there that I recognized that but it's, it's everything
we welcome, that that energy and that knowledge of that presence. Oh, yeah.
It's like they just want me to know that they're there just this incredible feeling of
love.
They are indeed here. Get familiar with this place. Know that it's yeah, that's part of you and
and your world now,
I feel so emotional. I
When do you feel uncomfortable about that?
No, I just feel like it could solve it. I don't know if I feel like it could, but I
It's okay. It's perfectly fine. You just allow the energy to express itself freely and give. Just give
yourself and the energy's permission, yeah.
Him, I think, has some silent communication with him Right now,
very good. Just be here. Okay? I
That was very nice
with their love at sport, I i released some things that I needed to release, and did some healing
work on myself that needed to be done, and it's complete. Now, sounds very good. This is
what this was all about, that I felt thankful, felt the gratitude for the whole, support and love
opportunity of everyone around me, and also for the opportunity For you guiding me through
like this, memories, energy true, because I released. It's as if something that's been hanging
on for a year or so, causing confusion and physical illness, kind of is gone now, and I that was
like a healing like I've been released and freed up, and I'll be different when I come out of this.
Be sure that you extend our gratitude to these energies for this experience, oh yes,
they love you Very much. They really do.
They know the gratitude and says
it's
as if a jewel and a flower forming in front of me now it's as if there it's both the jewel and the
flower together, A white flower and a jewel, like crystal and
it's in front and and Coming toward my heart
and Third Eye and
and throat,
its heart, third eye and throat, and the love is there and open, your vision opens, and you're
able to express it. Now the light just came in through the crown chakra, just the grace of just
being filled with grace,
beautiful. I Oh,
that's like,
Thank you for sharing this. Yes,
I feel healed and different.
We might even say whole.
I don't know if it's the whole we were talking about.
It's the you are whole. That was the message I'm hearing.
I see, I feel, like these will be symbols for me. This will be my way. This will be the way over
the
of being
it's solidly in place. The grace is there, it's like gold grace. It's like real gold grace. And it's
going down the back of my head, down into my spine. It's real gold. It's and it's making me
strong. It's going into my backbone, my is making me strong. It's making me so strong and
and
straight.
It's like reverse Kundalini it's just,
it's just,
it's making me
it's in place,
nice. I see all seven chakras in a row, all aligned, all balanced, and all with the same intensity,
pulsing, interacting.
The third I
it's open
that's much stronger.
The light is coming through. It's solidly open, like it doesn't, it's not the jewel and the flower, but
it's like, it's like, I get the word of Beacon, but it's, it's just open. I can see it okay. I could feel it.
This is the third. You're talking about the
third. It's the. It's like an opening with it's like a crown of Summit. If a crown were sitting at
somebody's head, it would be set like sideway. It would be set over, like it's a crown over the
third chakra.
Sounds like an understanding of why we call it the solar plexus.
It's quite
open, something to do with the sun here.
Yes, yes, that crown, it's it's it's there, and that light just, it's like the beacon that shines out
through isn't that something I
there was a rose for the second
and a light for the First. Like a candle. What a flame. It's a flame.
That's nice. It's
a flame. The second is like a red rose,
yes, indeed.
And the gold has gone down all the way now to the flame,
down to the flame. The flame is steady. It's not huge, it's not small, but it's very steady and hot.
It's definitely a flame. It's definitely a flame. It's a very hot flame, but it doesn't flicker. It's just,
it's,
it's like a big flame. I don't It's not big, it's,
it's, I can say it's a flame of great intensity Where where
nothing can match its intensity.
It's, it's
it's, it's intense from it's, literally, it's the flame of the universe. It's flame now it's taking on all
the it has, all the power of the whole universe. Is what it's doing now,
this is first chakra, which, yeah, it's,
it's, it's that, you know, it's that flame, but it as I see it, it's that solid, but then when I feel the
intensity, It's like the whole, the whole universe's intensity, flame. Power of is, you can't see the
end either. It's, you can't see the end.
It's, that's the eternal flame you're describing. It
just it's eternal. It's and limitless, and the intensity is beyond. I'm trying to tell about it, but I
can't grasp it. I
can. Are you describing it? I hear it sounds like existence being symbolized, being symbolized
in the words you're using. Yes,
it's all of it that intensity that I've searching for the word. I don't know if I could find it,
but it's in some in some way, it's at our beginning, where we begin, right. Can you move from
there to the second and get a description here of the rose or other symbols? So uh,
let's see, it's your blend. Let's see. Now, see the gold is, there's, it's solid gold, but it's moving
down my back. It's already down straight. My spine is very straight. It's down going that
intensity, the flame and others. The gold is moving just one like a lick of the flame, which is
actually the gold, solid, pure gold, the metal, the it's coming through the rose, the rose. I look
into the heart of the rose, and I'm I'm looking into the heart of the rose, and it's endless. It's,
it's, it's as if I could keep looking into it. It's, it's like, it's like, it's like the pyramid being the
window for the time and space. When I looked in the void and looking into the roses,
has that same, that same feeling as I'm peering in, but it's not the Void is much like it is the
void, but It's a different quality. It's not even quality, it's i
It's, it's,
it's like and it's endlessly, I want to say sensual. It's endlessly. It's the fragrance, the color, the
richness, the limitless to the qualities of the of the sensuality, the ecstasies of the ecstasies of
all of it the the oh, there's, there's no end to it's like going into the red and the black.
Well, I'm seeing if I can guide us through these without letting you get lost in any one of them.
To get a sense of the Can we go back now to the go upward, to the third, yes,
you You're right. It's exactly what they're doing. It's the the gold, the gold that's gone down the
back is now coming up and weaving its way through. It's going right in to the middle of the
crown beacon, wrapping around the back. And now it's into the heart. It's wrapping itself
around the heart like a, like a beautiful sphere. It's, it's a sphere of of cold, pure gold wrapping
around the jewel and the white flower. And now it's, it's, has this fear patch. And crisscrossed
And now and now it came up over the top and now into the throat, right in kind of looping from
back and then right up the center of the the crystal it's holding. It's the gem. It's it's wrapping
around the gym and around the flower, one piece around the flower, all the way around, under
the back, up of the back. Now, now it's coming up from behind the crystalline part that's been
wrapped up over into the third eye and in and up and around and in again, and under and up
around, and it's doing that so that there is it's totally lined in gold. It's almost become solid with
a hole in the middle, like the opening and the little jam and flight flower are now placed, placed
just right on top of that, just So gently, placed there on that gold, gold circle, and it's Just gently
there, and now the gold
has become.
It's giving a thin
it's becoming
like a gossamer thinness, and it's and it's just melting. It's not melting. It's just, it's just blending
with the white flower, like it's it's the most sheer gold over the flower, but it covers every little
nook and cranny. It's now a gold white flower. Oh,
nice white. There's a white dot right in the center where it's left, like a hole of white, like it's
going into a white void to come in see that's where you go in from the outside. Go in through
that white dot,
through the third eye, and out through the third eye, and there's a light behind it. Behind it,
there's a light blight, a light it's it's a gold white light sitting behind. It's the pineal gland sitting
there. I see it. It's a gold white light. That is so wonderfully there. I've never seen anything as
rich a gold white light. That's so that's so like a mist, but it's not, it's actually rays, but they're so
mist like that. Oh, it's just a gold white light just there coming from the depths. And that
connects me to my that's connecting me to my whole body. I can go right into my whole body
through that, through that, but yet I can go into, I mean, that's, I am literally going into the
whole body that's more dense. I. But what a marvelous experience of going into the body, like
tissue, like dense it's more dense, but I see it, I feel it, and I'm going through it. I
Oh,
it's all perfect. I mean, it's an amazing instrument. It's an amazing instrument. I don't
understand all of it.
You don't have to understand that you made the whole thing without understanding
how, yeah, and I'm already in my toes, and it's like they're allowing me a quick visit, and I'll be
done in a second. It's like, it's like this instrument that I've been housed in that I've never really
known in this way.
Huh? Part
of our problem is we keep thinking it's us.
Such a lovely instrument. I'm doing some cleaning up. Do Yeah, do a lot of that. Yeah, it's
there my legs, and there's some guides helping me. Some friends. They were like little spirits,
Little Earth, you know they were, they were actually this. They're here, these little these little
fairies. That's what they were. They were from Leonard's yard. They're from Leonard. He was
sick, and they're what went in to heal him, because I watched them do it, and they are here.
They are going through my body with me. They're going through my body with me. They're
cleaning up. They're just, and they're whistling while they work. It's funny.
They're just, that's what they're supposed to do. They're like the toes, like, everything's in
pretty good shape. Let's see where there is a shift in the sound, which is okay. Are you still
there?
Certainly okay,
we did. It's okay. Let's see.
I mean, I'm looking with interest. Yeah,
the sound has changed. It's okay. I don't know if you're
aware of it? No, not at our end. Well, there's
no more there's no war surf or whatever that was. It doesn't make any difference. This is good.
I'm back with my little fairies.
I don't think there's been any surf for a long time.
Just change for me.
Let's see
they're just there spending time in my legs, upper legs. Okay, it's pink. Now it's pink. There's
going through just
the lower back. That's right. Just go through systematically. Is
it okay? Let's see
it's all right. I
see it's pink.
It's all pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, pink,
pink, pink, pink, oh, I
think you're pink. All over inside. It's,
we just finished pink. They see this as they go through they're just they're turning everything to
pink. This. Hmm, yeah, I like it. It feels good. Anyway. Now let's see the gold is swinging
around. It's going down around, it's going inside. It's going inside my head to there's a place in
the back, I think I see the word hypothalamus, and it's wrapping like a tight sphere, like
multisphere, little multi spirit. It's just one, and it's zooming straight up to the very crown of my
head, very crown, straight up crown, and it's bursting through like a straight re read of pure
gold going up into the universe.
Let's see
the gold, the flower. It's right through a part of that it's hooked. There's,
let's see,
I don't understand what it's doing. Is that part that's coming back down. I wonder
what it went far away. Now it's come back down. I don't know where it would it's a point of light
up there. It went to that point of light. Right up to that point of light, it's very far away, and now
it's come straight back down, and it's hooked again through the crown and gone into the third
eye again, wrapped up around the third eye, up through the forehead and into the center of the
crystal blend Shem and flower, but that's transformed into pure gold. Now that's pure gold, and
it's it's like a seed of gold. It's like salad gold. It's molten, but it's pure molten liquid. But solid
gold, that it's permeable, but not and it's it's how the grace comes in. It's how the grace comes
in through that. It's like you would be like a like a diaphragm over that which is permeable,
which the grace comes through. And is, it's like it becomes gold, and then it goes, it's a crown.
It start. It's a, I can draw it, but I can it's like, it's like an aura. It's the aura is behind it, the aura.
It's interconnected with this aura where the gold is very heavy and goes down the back of me,
but it's like an aura and a and that pure gold gem flower held In the center in a circle of solid
but yet molten in the center where everything is coming and going and the and the aura behind
it is what feeds there's a connection, and it feeds. Down through the spine. Then that see that,
but then from the flame down there, it's like it's also a source.
So I'm sourced from both from the endless universe and the limitless grace. And that's it's
complete, and there's a light shining from the third eye, and everything was open. And it's
pretty beautiful to see.
Wow. What a gift. And the light is there, that point of white light as a reference way far away,
and it holds my friends,
that is a gift indeed. I want you to get what Bob might call an ident for this condition, this state,
this place so that you know it and know that you can return to it anytime you Wish. Oh, yes,
then ask for a final message and a summation and feeling whether, whether it's in words or
comprehensible or not, ask for it and wait, okay? I ask,
yeah, I tend to be the point of light.
And I see that in
a card that I have the point of light,
and it becomes part of you, part of your consciousness, yes,
and the flower, the gem flower, the Gold gem flower, and the Message I'm waiting for, I
that maybe not
Biden. The message is, it is so it is
so good, you'll bring that back with you. And it is so also all of the vibrations that you are
receiving in answer, in response, you'll bring all that back with you, whether it's available to
your immediate consciousness or not, it will be there. And I have to ask you now to return the
way that you came to take yourself back to focus 10 Can you do that? Yes, I
can. Are
you ready to do that? Or do you need another moment? Yes,
it feels a bit sad, but I think I'm okay. Well,
let's stay a moment and deal with the sadness. Okay. I i get the comprehension with you that
you are not really leaving anything, and certainly you are not losing anything as you return, let
me know when you feel yourself to be in, focused, in okay you
It's just one other thing, just so and I am transformed. That's what they want me to say. I am
transformed,
that we are very grateful.
Yes, I shared that, and now with that knowingness, deep feelings of love and gratitude, I can
come back now.
Yes, we're sorry that the world time factor continues to move along.
Yes, I can come back now.
Okay. Coming
back when
you are at 10, then we'll count back from there.
Okay, if we can come back, I'm transformed in strength, and we can come back from 10,
all right there, and we'll remind you when we reach the count of one, you'll be fully in your body
and your normal waking consciousness, with all of your systems in perfect harmony and
balance, mentally and spiritually and physically integrated and feeling wonderful. You Can
Count aloud with me, 1010, 9887, 8877665544322, two, two and one. Move fingers, move
toes. Okay, I am you're ready for Marie to Open the door? Yeah, that's okay, all right. I
watch your eyes
pulling In on top of You. There.