1976-09-07 TC

1976-09-07 TC (This is an unedited transcript, auto generated by otter.ai.) Pacific timetable for California quake, and said it was about three months from now. And then I got a map of the United States, particularly the western half the United States, and what it would look like afterwards. It's kind of strange, because when I saw it, the map startled me a little bit, and then I was told that I was mistaking the shading and was thinking that land was water and water was land. I had a negative version of the map that I was being shown. I and pretty much as we had had before, the disturbances in the east are slated for around 83 or four. 383, I asked when you would move from your prison house, and immediately got April. Although I didn't get a year, I assume it's This year. I just got the months April. I I know I did not, but I will, if you like, and so that you can remember it and drop okay. And I've been studying it and trying to fill in the detail. I shouldn't have any trouble at all drawing it Now, remember your invite that? Yes, it has a strange feature to it, an indentation, almost like a V, A notch cut out of West Central United States. You okay, excuse me reporting the quake that's going to occur in about three months in California is not going to be the major one. It's not going to be the worst one, although it will be a major quake by standards of people living there, and it will be very destructive, but there will be a worse one coming about eight or nine months later. The rest of the US will experience light tremors, nothing disastrous until about 83 or so went over about a one year period. Most of the traumatic geological changes will take. Place. Meanwhile, a very unusually large number of earthquakes will be happening worldwide. What Western Europe will shift southward toward Africa. The Mediterranean will shrink, will close up to a large extent. I see most of the change being taken around the in the Mediterranean area, Southern I Europe. It looks like most. It looks like England and that part of northern and central Europe all survives. All right, it's just the whole thing gets shifted southward. Of course, there are lots of changes that from a global viewpoint don't look that large, but I'm sure from a local viewpoint will be quite significant and quite massive, but right now I'm looking at a globe of the earth, and it's turning slowly, and as it turns, I See the changes. So I'm getting a very macroscopic view, water opens up, even though the Mediterranean is squished down to a smaller body of Water, it extends further to the east and covers the it covers quite a bit of land. It's now to the east of the Mediterranean. And also, like through the Suez Canal, the canal will become not really a canal anymore. It will open up to a larger body of water. My view just got in real close there, and I need to back off and a little bit in so I can take in The whole globe again. Telescope. Back out. Okay? Pin lakes, Black Sea, Caspian Sea, area that seemed to have grown much larger. Most of Russia looks unchanged on a again, on a global scale, which mostly is where the land mass exists, rather than detail. China and Southeast Asia is altered quite a bit. China in particularly I me back off a little bit further. Seems like a great deal of southeastern China well exchange land for water and. There will be new islands created and old ones submerged in general, throughout the oceans and Curious, what are the economic Change worldwide. Let's Start you. Hey pardon give you a chance to get your recorder going. The political climate will be one of the uh administering by a crisis resources and attention by the federal government and the political system will be put toward the most demanding crisis of the moment, political or social programs won't be planned and executed and ideas worked out. It won't be that type of thing like we've seen in the past. It will essentially be a race from behind to catch up and keep up with with series of crises, some of which, Of course, will be caused by the geological changes. I I was working on a trying to get a a prediction on the presidential race in 76 I and I didn't get a real strong indication, matter of fact, at first, Thor was being a little funny and said it would be Gerald Carter. Then he was a little smug about that. I got a feeling that he's not real anxious to get into that kind of information. But I if I pressed it a little bit, perhaps I could, I could get that generally, a lot of crises, not all related to geological changes. Political crises, kind of a showdown between the liberals and conservatives in economic and welfare and social programs versus economic programs, a slowing of the rate of growth, economic growth in the country, maybe even a standing still for a while. Now, that's what I see in the short term the next i. Of three years or so, three or four years? Well, I just asked again, and I kind of got the half hearted indication that Carter would win the presidency and that he would not turn out to be the candidate that many people had voted for him would expect of him, that he will turn out to be more fundamentally conservative than he is picturing himself to the voters now, and this is, I suspect, what will create part of That showdown between the social programs people and the I A conservative. So I guess that turns out to be a lot of political turmoil over the next few years. So as more of the geological changes begin occurring, the mood will change from internal policies and directions of the government towards the citizens, just to simple survival, and there will not be a great deal of panic and violence. The events seem to have such a sobering impact that the vast majority of people will work together for a mutual benefit and to aid each other's chances of survival. Of course, there is still a small criminal element. But if anything, the the criminal side of life in the United States will be reduced considerably because of the seriousness of the the seriousness that life will take on worldwide, it will be a very politically unstable. Next three or four years, a lot of changes in governments. I in general, I just see a lot of political activity. Again, when major devastation occurs, ideas will turn toward mutual help and survival and away from political idealism or political power maneuvering, people will begin to depend less for their governments and more on each other, because their governments will really be able to do very Little to help them or do anything for them. I present and no, it will become more local. There won't be as much long distance interstate commerce and. The produce and materials of for housing and of course, food and basic necessities that will be available on the area will come from closer by, rather than ship. From long distances, but there will still be commerce and and there will still be transportation and well, actually, most of the sources that are available now will still be available, though, a great deal of the energy production will be eliminated. So Well, a great deal of the consumers of that energy. So there the, for example, the electric power generating facilities that will still be operating, well after of course, some rebuilding and repair, be able to serve in a useful way to the consumers who still need that power from the Yes, but at a much higher price, there may be some sort of rationing. It may not be a free market situation where one can buy what one can afford. I see as I look in, I still see cars and trucks moving, but I do have a feeling of scarcity. It as far as petroleum products go, trouble is all that geological shifting has has played havoc with a great deal of the sources of petroleum, places where it used to be, where they have facility for processing and pumps and oils and so on. It, of course, would no longer be there. And other places may become sources that were not sources before. So there will be petroleum, but it will be scarce, probably rationed. Solar energy and powering of individual dwellings will become much more popular and widespread. Uh, instead of the central power production plant with a large distribution system, there will be smaller power production or individual dwelling production. After all of them, what cry got was about 150 million i. About 3 billion, but I have no feel for that number at all, whether that's smaller or larger or the same as it is. Now, I do have a feel for the US population. 150 million is about 50 million less than there are now i Yeah, it's kind of strange. As I get this information, it's like there's a large Atlas, and as the questions are asked, there is somebody turning the pages of the Atlas, and I'm essentially reading the information. What what You call my goal? I there's several levels to that answer. On a physical level, the cause, I had a picture of a prune as it dried out, wrinkling earth system changing its physical state for the loss of heat from its core, the pressure the the core decreasing with the slow heat loss. And because of those decreasing pressures, the matter of the Earth itself will need to adjust to accommodate those changes in forces and pressures. That's the physical side, sort of a scrunching up of the earth. I kind of have the feeling that when it's all over the earth will be a little smaller in diameter, a little shorter in circumference, just kind of scrunch up a little bit, collapse a little I guess, and all the geological activity on the surface will be just like wrinkles on A much larger view on a on a cosmic i a perspective. I don't really, I don't really see an intent like that. This is happening, you know, because it is going to, you know, do any specific thing, but I see that it's like part of the program on a cosmic view, it will happen, and it will be a turn, A turning point, sort of like a shaking up of people's awareness, an unsettling of lifestyles and attitudes, Just a general, uh, shaking up, stirring the pot, change in direction that hopefully when things settle down again, then they will have set up some. Settled down with positive changes having taken place. But I don't really see that that's already determined that it will be an overall positive experience. It may or may not be. It still depends on what is made of it. But I see that it has a larger probability, say, of having a positive outcome in that when these lifestyles and attitudes and feelings and essentially, reality view of the people settles after having been so shaken and disturbed and and changed from its normal way, will probably settle down to more fruitful reality system than we have now. But I don't, I don't see that as a as a fact that's already determined, just as a the larger probabilities I more like an opportunity, like the shake up, forces new thinking through of things, and it's that opportunity that's really presented. You the more that people, that persons become in touch with their with themselves, the more Positive will this readjustment and resettling of reality View become the legitimization of an inner self, and the importance of that inner self will help immensely When pupils are so uprooted and the pot is stirred. This legitimization of inner space, so to speak, will open the doorway for many people to react to The situation constructively, and we fit in to this by helping bring about that legitimization and by, of Course, helping individuals get in touch with their selves and but it's not, it's, it's not just the people that we help, individuals, of course, that will help those individuals immensely, but it's, it's a larger thing than that. By. Helping these individuals, plus the way ideas and acceptance of ideas spreads from a few to many, we will really be influencing a much, much larger number of people to give some notice and some credibility to the existence of inner space and the importance of it, then we'll ever pass through our seminars? I again, it seems that we are on the right track. Another way of saying it is that we are the advanced man, and not just to those people that we deal with personally in our seminars, a much larger sense, where the advanced man, and in as much as we can present Knowledge and opportunity to people in general, in a in a non offensive and in a a rational and constructive, Non dogmatic program. And also by using our technical aids to enable people to experience results without commitment to a great deal of intensive training, I these Things will be of great value. Yes, a larger emphasis on individual exploitation. I said that wrong exploration, individual exploration, of inner space, where, in essence a, you know, I got, I'm confused now, just a minute, I'll try to straighten this out. I'm getting a couple of messages at the same time. It comes to is a, a very general approach, which we have accomplished somewhat, but our approach to our work and to our seminars should maintain its general aspects. These are more important than the specific aspects, such as remote viewing or out of body. Of course, the healing is good, particularly when directed to self, because that is a very intimate and intense form of communication with the inner self, but not so much on the techniques aimed at developing particular abilities to do specific things, a generalist approach aimed at the. Uh, at all of the particular things, but in a in a general way, rather than then aiming at each one individually. I, I have the idea, but I am not expressing it very well. Do you understand? Yes, I yeah, that's that's not to say that that our approach now is incorrect. It's just to say that the emphasis should be placed visibly upon the general aspects, much as we are doing. It seems that there are those who tend to interpret or enter into or use, I suppose, the services and the and the knowledge that we offer only for very narrow and specific things they wish to be able to remote view, or some such other endpoint at which they aim. And ours should be to encourage them to aim more generally, at getting in touch with themselves and with all other aspects of reality that I think I've said it just then more the way I've intended i Let me ask if there Are any other technical processes which we might incorporate you. Well, to begin with, the four hertz is indeed the proper basic approach to stimulate a four Hertz. Well, pulsing isn't quite the word, but the the four hertz oscillation is the gateway and the correct beginning. However, it was suggested that four hertz sweeping as opposed to four hertz pulsing might be very effective, even more so than the pulsing, in other words, sweeping up and down in frequency at a four hertz rate, as opposed to modulating the sound so that its amplitude increases and decreases at a four hertz rate. Yeah, that to go from a lower tone to a higher tone and back to a lower one and back to a higher one and so on. Oscillate between higher and lower tones at a four hertz rate, with a four hertz separation. No, not with a four hertz separation, but that wave will wave upon the board so that you run up and down from a higher to a lower frequency four times in a second. I a sweeping frequency at a four hertz rate up and down, which would produce a warbling sound. Yes, that that this would be very effective. And I have the idea that the frequency range would be rather large, you know, it wouldn't just be over a very short frequency range, but enough that you could hear a very distinct warbling. I warbler set of that secret or hurt. Could it be a fine way square way up? Sine wave, a smooth transition would be best. I. Uh, an aside on the last subject, it is more important that the warbling cover a range of frequencies that is judged pleasant and acceptable to listen to than any specific values. We should work that out simply by trying various ranges and listening to them and picking those that seem to work the best experimentally, it's not so much the frequencies themselves that will be swept through that is effective, but rather the sweeping itself that will modulate the frequencies in a four hertz rate. This actually is very much what we are doing now, except now we are working in amplitude, whereas this works in frequency, after The four hertz theta region is developed in a subject, and they indeed are encouraged into a theta altered state. From this point other frequencies will have effects that are quite different than those same frequencies would have before a person passes this point, higher frequencies which are not particularly useful before a person has reached theta predominance may become useful. I'm by higher frequencies on a maybe Oh, any anything that's comfortable. It's the beats are more important than the carrier. The carrier can be up to Oh, 1000 hertz or so, anything that's comfortable, anywhere from 150 up to a uh, you know, seven, 800 or 1000 seems to be comfortable. What will be the effect? Probably the time they will encourage resonances of a more subtle nature that become available after a person has predominantly gone to theta, they will not change the basic theta state, the theta state will remain constant. But within that theta state levels and subtleties within that theta state can be accessed and certain levels encouraged, just as the Theta Delta encourages the theta state, other sub states can be encouraged with the the higher frequencies. One I see a sequence, and they seem to travel in 20 fives, such as 2550 and then 100 were the series that I got, I thought would encourage three separate states. What are the states then related to them? After 100 they continue. They go to 200 and they go up by hundreds, then 203 100 and and like that. See I encourage the higher frequencies will encourage a larger degree of awareness, a larger degree of what will be experienced as a wake awakeness. Though, the person will not really be waking in the normal sense, but will remain in a in a predominant theta state. Yeah, that's right. Are these beat frequency? Yeah, yes, the the base frequency, again, is, is, is not so important, other than it be pleasant, comfortable, it's the beats that are the significant part of The tone. Is there another One in these higher great group. Yes, 5050, hertz seems to be some sort of center value. I don't really understand why, but it seems to be a a center resonance, where awareness, somehow it seems to be a a more powerful or a more noticeable effect that 50 than at the others. But all of the others have their own, their own special little, little nature. But the differences are more subtle. At 50 seems to be the more significant of the series, or at least one of the more significant these. They seem to run up to just about as I said, in hundreds, up to about 500 but I don't see anything beyond that. I think, actually, I don't really see much up that high, you know, 200 300 and then I it kind of fades out with a 500 being an upper limit. I and by speech and that seems to generate a great deal of heat. Try, and I'll try raising the base frequency. I. It could be that having made the reporting, what I reported, that I am particularly inclined to react to this now, but It does seem to be having a desired effect. It really suppresses the body and and kind of wakes you up and so the point that it it makes my eyes open up. Since it's been playing, my eyes seem to not want to remain closed. It just keeps them open. At the same time, though, I can feel the force cycle pulsation in my body and my body has gotten number and very non lifelike. It seems to be suppressing the body awareness and heightening the mental awareness, it works sort of slowly in that the condition that it's putting me in has taken now it has been Working gradually from when you first turned it on, and seems to Continue. Interesting to see how others react to this, but remember that they must attain a good theta state before applying this particular sound, ask questions, yes, continue the theta as it was, and this tone is superimposed over that, theta, I in while you were working on that tone, the effect of the first tone seemed to about settle out, didn't seem to continue to get any stronger, as far as its effect. So I would judge, then at about Five minutes, would create the effect I that 50 hertz sewn you Were playing or modulated. 50 hertz modulation on a 500 or 400 carrier, depressed the body, pressed my body down like blankets of of heavy weights were being added to it. Uh, even to the point of making speaking more difficult, just in a sense that it was more difficult to expand the chest, to draw in the air, just like, uh, maybe a lead blanket had been put over my body, making it harder to breathe, not an uncomfortable sensation, just peculiar one. I still feel the effects of it. It hasn't really disappeared much yet almost like a centrifugal force, like I'm in a centrifuge being pressed into the bed. Oh, yeah. Yes, I have been all along. He says the the beats up in the low hundreds, will facilitate visualization. It sort of depends it's it's not as broad a resonance. It will be sharper for you know, at one place, for different individuals, I kind of just sort of get anywhere from 100 to about 300 should increase the visualization. And this 50 hertz thing should increase your awareness. And all of these tones can be played simultaneously. They can't Yes, even though the ear will not consciously be able to differentiate and pick them out in the various beats and so on. The nervous system does indeed hear each one separately, as well as all of them together. You I know if the mind body can be put into a first the theta state, then a greater awareness and then a sharper visualization. This will facilitate the healing, both self healing and healing of others. And in this sense, these these tones, will aid the healing process. But they're very general. They will eat all processes that require focusing of thought Energy. Really? Would you ask or what relationships as robots? What we already understand about it is pretty much the way it is the the second cell for energy body is a truer, he says, representation of the personality and that the physical body is a you. Projection of this energy, body and physical matter reality. He actually used the analogy, it's a like a shadow on a physical matter plane. He it seems that the energy body itself may indeed be a shadow of a yet more refined essence of personality. I'm not sure how far this telescoping i a thing takes place that's as far as it seems to go. He says, Oh yes, I uh, but not as it relates to our time. Yes, not stop waiting hard time he would not be a contemporary. And when one is there, what is the thing that we understand as mainly, and what does that relate to The energy body and into Other areas in the do? Through male and femaleness or sexuality in physical matter reality is an expression of a more fundamental well, sort of duality or differences. And here, I'm not sure just what these differences are, but there seems like that that it's more fundamental than just a sexuality and the physical. Physical plane, and that this duality that is essentially the other half of balance, like in order to have balance, one needs two halves. One needs something to balance against something else. It's kind of a basic duality of consciousness or personality. I suspect that the two aspects of the same thing and this, this fundamental duality of the really the individual consciousness is expressed when projected to the physical matter plane, or when the shadow falls On the physical matter plane into male and female. But the same duality is also in each individual. It's not that a that a male is all of one type and a female is all of another type. Both the balancing energies are available in each type. It's just one character arises or exemplifies the the kind of basis of of each of the two balancing members more than the other. Yes, it exists, but as the energy body evolves, the duality is is brought more and more together, more and more balanced within the individual. I got a two thoughts at once there. Let me back up so I don't confuse them. Still in the energy body there, particularly in the it's almost, again, a telescoping thing, various states of the energy body as as the energy body becomes more evolved, the duality becomes more and more balanced until i i expect at the at the end point, if there is an end point, These this duality is indeed integrated into a single substance, the less or single non conflicting personality, the less evolved as one projects from the less well as one goes to the cruder and cruder manifestations down to physical matter, reality, which, and by the way, is doesn't seem to be the Last one in the chain. It seems yet that physical matter, reality projects yet onto another. And here the this, this duality seems to still very much be a it's not really conflicting. That's the wrong word, but almost like different types of energy, but they're not very well integrated, and one really seeks and needs the other to balance itself. This integration process then takes place as the entity evolves to where the exchange between what we think of as opposite sex becomes less and less the dramatic as the entity becomes more evolved, that's I'm not saying it real well. I hope I've got the the idea across. Yes, I so certainly, but other beings, other fake people. Are you differentiating between physical penetrations? Let's start with physical are there space humans? Planet Earth, or by humans of Earth are insects, the area of the earth? The problem is with the word in the area, or with the phrase in the area of as would be regarded by such space vehicles and their occupants, the answer is yes, as would. Be regarded by an Earth view of space. It may be considered considerably removed from the area of our are Evans from time to time where near earth spaces is occupied by such physical alien entities. But it's not a general thing. It's not a a rule. It's rather the exception. It's an occasional happening. I don't as I look ahead in the future, I don't really see any change. In that status, like I don't see any, you know, public disclosures of landings on the White House lawn or anything dramatic. I see that occasionally such a traveler does enter into near Earth environment, overtly, yes, Well, not necessarily, but in a let's say, discreetly, which is a refinement of The word covertly. What means of communication do they you? I don't know. It seems that some are self contained units and are not in any kind of routine communication with a with a base or home or origination. They are independent self contained units, and, of course, are in communication with members of that unit. They're not. They don't necessarily come in groups or packs. I get the picture of communication taking place, but I can't really tell how maybe thorough. Give me something verbal rather than visual. Here just a minute. There are a lot of different kinds of communications. Some is by light. Others is quite um. A telepathy. But the telepathy, somehow, doesn't seem just like a natural kind of telepathy. It seems like some kind of device aided telepathy. Where one, by having the appropriate equipment, can transmit and receive without the benefit of radio waves using a thoughts. But it's a machine added aided telepathy that I see. And by what also that? What? How are you to move their vehicle. I don't understand it. It's just. Essentially comes across that it works, that it's it's not a kind of conventional power that we know of. It's not rocket or anything like what we've thought of it. They don't seem to need a large amount of fuel, whether they gather it as they go, like from sunlight or what, but it's not like they have to stockpile the fuel, like a rocket has to have its fuel included, and when it's burned up, it needs to be restocked. This kind of gathers fuel as it goes. Perhaps it's the solar energy, I'm not sure, but it doesn't carry along fuel tanks, so to speak. It travels. It travels under an energy that is just too alien for me. I don't really understand it, or know how to describe it. It just sort of works. It's not within your ability to understand it or experience I think that's the problem. Then let's turn to the penetration by non physical antigens or there's a system almost infinite number of non physical entities which can penetrate to earth or to a physical physical matter interaction. Now that doesn't mean that they can assume a physical you know, project themselves in the physical matter, but they can interact with, be in the neighborhood of in, around, among and through and with physical matter. It's, it's like spaces is teeming with, well, space, I say, inner space, wherever this non physical space is it's teeming with life, like an ocean. It's teeming with fish, and they're like all around in all different types, with all different sorts of interests and and some of which couldn't care less about the earth than others, are very interested, and they all seem to have their own thing to do, or their own I don't know, journey. Does a fish have a journey? I guess a salmon do, and a few others, but they just seem to be doing whatever it is they're doing. And there's lots of them around now, this sort of random penetration of whoever happened to be interested and or passing by has changed some recently, with a higher level of organization taking place more entities who are Earth interested, actually working, laying plans in some way, I suppose one would Say interacting with or interfering with humans on Earth. And it's much like near Earth future is going to be a big event, sort of a, you know, a coming attraction. And this organization is centered about a preparation helping to prepare the humans for. For this big coming event, which I haven't just been given that information, but I assume they're talking about this geological change, and that it's sort of well known that this, this big happening is there's about to happen. I don't understand how about to happen is defined, since this time thing confuses me, but it's, it's like there is a time and and the time is is coming close, so the earth is attracting a lot more attention from the non physical entities than it has in the past. Because of this, it's like the theater is beginning to fill or the seats at the circus are starting to fill up, and some of which of the early comers are actually down there trying to give moral support or encouragement or help or whatever they can to the about to be performers. I think the ones that are trying to help have a have a pretty close Earth tie, mostly, they are entities that, for one reason, another real, relate strongly and have a lot of very good positive feelings toward Earth and the Earth experiment. Then as Thor, where he says he likes Earth and hopes everything will work out. All right to you, it doesn't seem to be anything personal, just acquaintances. Evidently, he was in the vicinity one time when I was requesting communications and and such a friendship, so to speak, was started up. I don't have any feelings of, you know, as other others have reported as a part of an oversoul and that kind of personal relationship. I think he's just, I I have a friendly entity who doesn't mind sitting down for a chat once in a while. And again I say he's Earth interested. He has very fun and and sort of good feelings toward Earth and people. Oh, yes, he'll be around secretly that you find he just laughed, and he's kind of a little bit chagrined at the nickname we've given him, a Thor and but he sort of grudgingly accepts it and indicates that just essentially calling him by name will be sufficient asking for a better name. This is what started this whole Thor business to begin with, then, but I'll ask him. He says that'll do. Evidently, any name he would grudgingly accept. So he's he's not. He doesn't really relate very much to names. I think the only, well, no, he says it really, you know, doesn't make that much difference to Thor. Will will serve. He's he's had it this long, he might as well let it go. I. Robin, thank you very much. Long and very certainly good and constructive. You hear you okay? He was actually pleased to have the conversation sort of renewed with him when we when I went into this state, I kind of thought of Thor just because I had communicated with him before and made an attempt at finding him again. And it didn't come very quickly. I tried, and it's just like he wasn't there. And after some minutes of of calling for him, sure enough, he popped up. And I was under the impression that he was a very long ways off and was no longer in the immediate vicinity, but had, well, I guess, symbolically speaking, had heard his name and came by. And when he did come by, he seemed to be very happy to see me, and I was very happy to see him. So it was like a reunion of sorts, and he's very amenable to the idea of continuing discussions. That would be very good, very, very he had just kind of given up on us and figured that we had forgotten him, and he didn't really expect to hear from us. It was kind of a sort of like a long lost relative calling up in the middle of the night, I Guess. Are Not, okay. Okay. I like a rebalance there. What would you like that balancing formula? Or no, I don't. I don't think it's necessary. Just Just take me a little bit to take your kid, that heavy lead blanket off that stayed with me from when that tone went off, it never really left me. Take your time. Seemed like the only way to get rid of it really was to move. If I can find a recharger here. It's kind of funny the way Thor was sort of putting words in my mouth. I was speaking, but he was he was putting words there. And occasionally, as something would come out a little strange, and I wasn't quite sure whether it was said the way it intended. I'd kind of ask him, is that all right? He kind of pat me on the shoulder, in a figurative way, and say, You're doing fine, you know, just that's, that's the way I said it, or that's the way I intended it. Keep right on gone. It's okay, you know. So it was, he was encouraging. Did you have a visual picture of him at all? Did you are we just No, just the presence feeling, yeah, I suppose, I suspect so. It wasn't a well, I don't know. In the absence of any shape at all, I expect that kind of filled in something that was taller than it was wide, because that's the way people come, yeah, but there wasn't any detail in it, you know, I didn't, I didn't see, like, arms and legs and toes or anything like that. Was definitely male, though, yeah, it's definitely male. I know you the he a great deal in. So I presume that it wasn't well. I will give you some light, but get your arms and legs going, because I don't have a gage on you. Well, that heaviness is beginning to leave pretty well. How long was that? I.