The Nature of Creation and The Interconnectedness of All Things #18

here is another Explorer tape recordings taken from the research file of the Monroe Institute of applied sciences this is one of a series that has been released by The Institute upon the request of many many who believe that such information needs to be part of man's general knowledge our explorers as we call them are individuals who have learned to move into other states of Consciousness utilizing special Institute methods to do so and without the use of drugs or electrical stimul most important each has learned to communicate and Report vocally during such tests it is the recording of such Communications along with that of the monitor that you will hear the Explorer is lying down in total darkness in an isolation Booth wearing Audio headphones and various electrodes are attached to the body to Signal physiological states to the instruments in the control room a microphone picks up the voice for recording in this case our Explorer is romc she has reached a familiar state of awareness where her reporting may or may not be totally her is the creation beginning the Creator created and there was creation and how did it God sneezed and the molecules of the Breath of God in the material universes the Breath of God the breath of the creation dissolved back into its original what does this mean this means that there is the creator there is the is the created and the creation all is one and one is all there is no beginning and there is no end the created can only perceive the the beginning and the end until the created becomes the Creator and realizes the nature of its very essence and the created knowing that it is the Creator and the created knows that there is no beginning and is no end there is only is the very Breath of God the original energy is would lesson we would like for you to take in your hand a piece we will wait until you have thank you could you describe to us what you hand I have what we call a rectangle and I am holding it with my left hand at the narrow side of the rectangle with a long wide facing upward I see a white piece of it and now turn the paper over and this particular piece of paper had words inadvertently written on the other side so I will change to another piece of paper that has simple rules on each side and as I turn that piece of paper that is fine to keep the piece of paper that you have with the with the words yes all right that is fine you have described the paper yes now we ask from when did the paper is a piece of our material technology that originally came uh from a type of tree and the wood from the tree was ground up and compressed and rolled and formed this PE piece of paper this thin piece of paper chemicals made how who formed by growing from a Seedling in a nutritious environment of Earth soil earth air and atmosphere from which it drew nutrients from which it was able to grow into a tree and it came and it began with a tiny seedling and what created the seedling the seedling came and Fell From Another tree like the tree that created this and so on in sequence and backwards in what we call Time Each one dropping a Seedling which in turn grew to a tree and dropped another seedling which in turn grew to a tree back through possibly many thousands of what years and the lines drawn the forms of on the this the lines on the paper uh of words on the second side were drawn on the second side the lines of words were created uh by a machine which in turn plac the words on the paper and the Machine was operated by some human fingers which in turn were operated by a human mind and what created the mind this is where we where we begin to ask the question what did create the human mind what who operates the human mind what is beyond the human mind that operates the human mind okay friend you will admit that you are created is that not so this I very much concur with now I would like for you to divide the paper however I so desire to divide it into by cutting it however you decide to divide it but divide it pieces hold one in one other yes I have this in one hand one in one hand and one in the other and what have you done I have divided the paper into two pieces and it is now separate and apart physically that is and would you say that you have created two pieces of paper uh no I would not say that I have created two pieces of paper uh they may well be two separate pieces but they are to paper Yes dear friend it is one and the same all is one and one is all the the creation is the Creator created but at the same time you are the Creator it is one and the same all is one and one is all in the universe but do you understand in concept uh philosophically yes I can perceive the now dear friend take one sheet of paper and put paper I see or perceive the paper is behind me where me you have one that you can see that is yes that is paper yes describe how it feels it has a thinness and yet there is a texture to it meaning that it is not absolutely smooth because when I run my touch of fingers across it I can feel it is not perfectly it now smell the smell I have done so and it has a smell that we associate with paper uh a slightly chemical smell a smell now listen to the hear I hear what we call a as I bend it uh I hear what we call a crackling which is a change of stresses within the paper as it is bent if I do not bend it and hold it by bending it however you so choose to paper by making it into a cylinder and moving one edge of the overlap of the cylinder against the other I get what is a hollow sound sound and so friend with your five senses you experience this creation is that not so yes and now we ask how do you sight I perceive it lying on the floor behind me flat inert without motion without sound but as I perceive it it is the whiteness you perceive this with the five senses I perceive this within within my mind as I direct my mind to perceive it it creates the picture of this paper lying on the floor behind me out of my physical vision and you know that the paper is there that is correct you know but you cannot perceive with the five senses yes therefore through the mind there is that knowing level is that not so yes that is true friend you experience the creation through the five senses you experience the creation through the mind and dimensions of the mind and that level within the mind that knowing love level is that not so friend from whence was the Monroe Institute this is the only place that it that I know of that it originated is from the same mind yes so I am not sure that I am the total concept even the original concept I do not feel positive or know that such creation was my own entire concept that it did not originate Beyond me it was perceived in the mind is that not so that is true and therefore or that was stage one of the creation even though as you say there are many creation yes and therefore now that which can be seen felt touched smelled and experienced is in a SE stage a physical stage within your Universe out side of so therefore there is the creation from the mind and there is the created a you you or the original Creator in the mind and you created uh The Institute therefore again there is the Creator and the created is that not further you were created if I follow the method by which we are trained I exist I am here I am here physically I think I act I created you know that you are that is am you then are the created the second stage of the creation you came from an original source is that not so if I use the consciousness of this time space I that the consciousness of the average human uh does not know this he may to your being it will eventually uh have served a period of activity and eventually will uh Decay and return to its original this I presume that all totally our conscious beings know that this does take place whether than animal or a plant knows this I don't I do not know for sure what happens to everything in the physical Dimension everything in the physical Dimension Again by the standards of our culture resumes and goes back to its origin it eventually returns to the chemicals to the minerals from which it originated therefore all is one and one is all is that not so in that respect it is indeed so all is the creator all is he created is that not so in terms of physical matter the the cycle has been well observed that that which is created eventually returns to the source or state by from which it was created and what is the beginning and what is the end the beginning is where some pattern is set and that pattern assembles various minerals elements and organizes them into some form or structure that structure grows expands and in physical life anisms reproduces and then of itself returns to its source and that is the end that is the end of that particular mechanism in terms of a structure sorry to interrupt but we are near the end of this side of the cassette so turn it over and we will side what would the beginning and in be terms uh germination gestation birth growth maturity Decline and death and this is how the mind of man perceives of the beginning and perceives of the end is that not so this is as man generally receives it yes end uh conception and death in his terms and it is the perception of the mind of man is that not so this is the perception yes this is how the mind of it therefore end is in the second dimension not of the original form it is a perception by man and therefore a creation the beginning and the end is a creation of the mind of man is that not so this yes is true based upon his observation of the natural events uh that take place in time space in the Earth plane as he sees them and perceives them with his five senses there for there is a beginning and end in the perception in man's mind is that not so that is so yes therefore there is no beginning and no end is that not so in terms of of uh man's perception he sees a beginning and end but in the mind in the beginning God sneezed and the Breath of God became the material Universe in the end God breathed isai and when God breathed in that which was returned to its source and that which was is and that which was is one and all in the same the original is the beginning and the the end as it is experienced in the five senses the original is the creation as man knows it through his mind and through his experience the beginning and the end is one and the same as the original there is only one force in the universe there is only one energy in the universe and when this energy is divided just as the paper that you have before you was divided it is then still the same one and the same the same base the same origin it is one and it is two it is one paper in form and it is divided and it is one in substance but Essence there is in the universe one one basis the Creator the created the creation one is all and all is one the Earth is it is a form it was created and it is and always will be even though it will not always be perceived in the phys physical level the physical level of the earth is perceived by the human senses by the human mind the physical level will transform it will transform into a another level it is now perceived to be physical the physical Universe was created but it is and always will be it will change its form from the physical and go into another dimension but it is and always will be one and the same in its very essence this is the basis of creation one is all and all is Mind by inference then if all is one and one is all then I therefore am both Creator and created that is so if this is so then uh I therefore am a part of the creator of all there is if all is one and one is all that is so and if this be so therefore I as a Creator a May upon my own discretion or desire create however I so desire is this true you have the abilities to create as you are the there then if I am the Creator how then uh if I am such how did originally that is the very essence of this lesson one is all and all is one one you were created and you became a Creator and you in turn create and the then in turn there is another creation there are many levels of creation you did not create yourself you were created to become a Creator one is all and all is one one in the universe and the energies are one and the same you did not have to create yourself you were created in the image of the original Creator and you become a Creator you become created you become the creation and you go back into the original Creator there is an unbroken Circle one is all and all is one it is not a process whereby you create yourself you become created but with the same creative processes that are in the very essence of the creation and the created you become the Creator is this then understood I follow it with one form of my Consciousness and say therefore that if I am and was created by the original Creator there is only one energy in the it is an energy not understandable to the minds of men man creates a Creator in human form man creates his creator In His Image we create our creator but we are created by a Creator therefore the Creator is not the creation of our image because our image of the Creator Limits The Creator we limit ourselves and therefore we also limit our concepts of the Creator there are no limitations on the Creator the limitations of the universe are only those that we put upon it we create the cor Creator in our mind and it is not possible to create the Creator we limit the Creator and there are no limitations on the original Source do you understand this concept yes I can perceive this yes I I can perceive that there cannot be such limitations that a created can place upon any Creator and the impossibility of the created to uh properly uh conceptualize his creator is there any way that he can increase his ability to perceive the Creator the created can he any way increase his perception of that Creator when the Creator you the Creator understand the limitlessness of your nature you understand the limitlessness of creation all the limits that the Creator in the physical level has are the limits that are put upon themselves the the limits are put there through the physical nature of the five senses and the mind and when you the created and the Creator understand the limitlessness of your nature the nature the level that goes beyond that which you can smell feel touch hear and see that level whereby you know you know that the paper is behind you first that you put that paper behind you you know that it is behind you even though you cannot not see that paper it is a knowing level and when the human goes beyond the levels the limitations of the Mind the limitations of the five senses and lives in The Knowing level the levels of its inner Dimensions it is then that the human Creator begins to perceive the universe in a different way in the Timeless level when you perceive in the time level you perceive that there is a beginning and you perceive that there is an end but when you live in that knowing level of your nature you perceive in a different form you perceive in levels of where you know and you experience in different levels of knowing knowing that you are that you always were and that you always will be and therefore you are one and the same one is all and all is one and this is the essence of the creation story as we are teaching it to you however we do not have to teach all beings know it is within their very Natures to know it is only perceiving in a different way opening up and opening up beyond the five senses and the mind opening up into levels Beyond uh when the human perceives in the Physical Realm but perceives beyond the physical levels is this understandable friend yes my friend it is understandable and of course you are aware of this is the very process that we at The Institute here are attempting process you dear friend TR are the Creator and as your creative processes continue to function in their fullest there is continual movement in the processes of your own creative Universe there is a movement in energies when energies are blocked in your creative Universe then the flow is not as it should be and of course you are aware when that happens when your own creative universe is creating at its highest level you perceive and you receive continual inspiration as to what and how and where the creative process will go in your Institute and as you open up into your higher knowing level you will listen not only to your own Attunement but to that of the knowing levels of others you are doing as you should be doing following your own creative process and you must continue to follow this creative process as you ask for improvement how can we improve listen to that inner in Attunement that inner level of creativity which Contin ual continually flows and is on in a continual movement there is only energy in the universe and as the energy is operating and functioning at its highest level and density there will always be profound creativity taking place within your mind and within your soul creativity is the very ESS of the human being the human Creator you are the Creator the great excitement of being a Creator is that there is creativity taking place there is nothing that is SN stagnant within your Universe if you will not allow it to be stagnant each Soul must see and experience life as a creative process as an excitement of continual understanding and knowing and growing and creating and it is important that each individual each Universe each Creator each who is the creator and the creative goes with their own flow each being is a universe in itself a Creator a creative created and a creative being and it is very important for each individual Universe to follow the very essence of its own flow this is very important in the whole creative process within the universe that each Soul gets in touch with the very base of its own creativity you do not follow the creative level of another being your creativity comes from from the very essence of your own being you can receive inspiration you can receive Knowledge from others from creativity that you see taking place around you but you must experience your own nature your own creative nature of being and growing and becoming being and becoming is the very essence of the nature of man to be that which you really really are you are the created and you are the Creator one and the same in the Timeless Universe yes mhm our question our problem is is how to convey this to others so that they can understand it and this is our greatest problem it is not a problem because you are working on the solution as you bring others into the inner depth of their being which is very important in the process which you have helped to create you help others to go within their inner Universe to get in touch with their own creative levels therefore it is not a problem in that you are bringing a solution to many and helping others to open up into their own level therefore know that your creativity is helping the creativity of others just by helping others to go within in different forms to get in touch with levels of being we will keep trying then it's the best I can statement I can make at this moment and I thank you for reinforcing friend the one uh final question is is how far we can take this creativity uh can we are can we use this creativity in this final question to manipulate at matter as we know it there are no limitations in the universe the creativity level is also a Timeless level if you ask this question good so we then have the answer to how sneeze and ends with a sigh is that correct this is a concept in human terms an illustration that the human mind can perceive and we can put it in a humorous concept because the humor of the human nature is also very important yes I appreciate that very much and very deeply and humor has its own value we could also say that God left and the universe was created and he breathed in and all that was created came back to its original Source it is one and the same yes the end thank you friend thank you my friend very very it and we shall step aside and appreciate the chance to speak with you with we are all teachers and we are all Learners we are one and the same we teach and we learn you teach and you learn we teach and we learn one is all and all is one in the universe thank you friend thank you and I will certainly well there you have it one way to begin an understanding of creation and the creative process perhaps you can try it on for yourself now we offer this without particular comment but do hope you have a few comments of your own if you do we'd like to hear from you until then this is Robert Monroe saying there never seems to be one answer to anything and that may be good how else would we have a