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1984-10-09 - BEF-10
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1984-10-09 - BEF-10
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okay, you're in Tim now,
somewhere.
Right, we had talked about about target destination today being where you were
on your trip number eight here. And actually what we really want is for you to, to
be taken to your highest source of information, whatever that might be. And I have
forgotten a bit whether we, whether it's better for you if we proceed through 12
and 15. And sort of launch from there or whether you go direct from 10. Very good.
Just expand outward and outward to go to your highest place and check with me.
Whatever is happening, thought forms or perceptions, whatever's coming into your
mind and your awareness
it's a combination that we talked about where the four hertz and a 250 bass and a
1.5 hertz with a 125 bass
Oh, I guess you'd say is almost a kinesthetic feeling of a tunnel in my abdomen
what I just got was that the white light represents God if we're using terminology
Well, that sounds like a fairly high source.
Yeah, I guess can be.
OCAD hovering around the white light visually is represented. Say you're looking at
the sun only wear white the visual aspect of it is kind of dim today. Is there any
way you want to go? A question there?
Are you in touch with ace worthy information source? Is there anyone there? Who
would like to talk to you or who was willing to talk to you?
No entity per se the source is? The energy. Okay, well, I guess what some might
consider the Holy Spirit and the white light if you want to make a Trinity out of it.
For practical purposes, it's the white light itself rather than it's the field rather than
an entity.
Yeah, well, mankind has had very few instances I think of talking directly with God,
we usually work with an intermediary or a messenger representative of the higher
source.
Okay, it sounds like a good exploration point. Because I give resistance to thinking
that I'm communicating directly with God. But that's my hang up I think.
Don't think it's an uncommon quality of perception, especially for people who
meditate. We're dealing with such a grandiose concept is communicating directly
with God. And yet, when we talk with one another, we're speaking with aspects of
that field or that state of unified being from which all flows, quotes around flows
the baseline existence in this particular case it's just a entrance it's just a
perception of the fundamental
rather than well it can be taken out of purely religious terms
realizing that in general terms this equates with God once that's accepted we can
back away from the religious terms and just deal with it as psychology if you will
but I prefer to deal with it through what I might label Kim's awareness
okay in that regard it would be one band as a metaphor once Bactrim one color
this bedroom of existence albeit the underlying band or color
okay okay well go into his terms it feels easy enough
we have to be careful not to make a distinction here
the phenomenological aspects of the white light that is existence such as Kailyn
Martin and Rita in the new lane in the Institute
are valid but they're not disconnected from the wildlife I see the wildlife
permeating everything everybody it is an aspect of awareness that is generally
discounted
because of the fun or the predominance of the physical senses just as the physical
senses can blind one to the existence of greater realities forgot to emphasize
greater and de emphasize greater the same time here real small letters but
underlying so just as our physical senses blinders to the realities to create a
realities represented by the white light or indeed our relationship with God. So to
get another Oregon's question mark, perhaps a better term Okay. So can we be
blinded by other faculties of perception see seen as invasions and direct
awareness. It is within the nature of that faculty perception and it can bind us to
the integrity of physical awareness. For example give me a moment let my body
catch up.
Very good. You're doing very well coming through fine.
Okay, various faculties of perception are in the most miraculous way limited in
their scope, and then their function as in their practical application.
humans possess a variety Have cornerstones ie faculties of perception or
awareness. The overriding force encompassed in the five physical senses has a
tendency to lead us away from a concept of a unified field from which the white
light of God permeates everything. However, other faculties of perception such as
those that may be developed or enhance by sessions such as these tend to blind
us in the sense
that they lead one to a supposition or proposition, that the physical world is illusory
Yes, it is illusory and in terms of relationships from it and a unified field, the
illusions tend to dissipate once the recognition that they are not separate.
Thus, a physical realm has its own integrity as exemplified by physics, that is,
there are certain laws and there are predictive values to it. Now, true these laws
get overturn, they get overturned in a direct correspondence with the overall
development of human awareness. as quick a recognition of the unified field is
made aware of no matter how tentative a proposal physical laws are overturn. This
does not diminish the integrity for we find that certainly Tony propositions fall by
the wayside as Einsteins thoughts fall by the wayside, there remain suddenly Tony
and Einsteinian propositions remain valid depending upon the work the particular
physicist is engaged in or upon. Okay, I'll check back within a second
as succeeding bands of awareness are made available that is, once the individual
becomes aware of them, or society becomes aware of them, then we have true
revolutions they are never by surprise what can always major or catch glimpses of
their comings. However there it's like a step and all of a sudden there's a leak in
the organization in this case perhaps of the intellect and other faculty of
perception which in its own miraculous way has certain limitation
lasts as long as the pre dominance or even the preeminence is given to the unified
field the white light which is a band in human awareness one more was stay on the
right track
Okay, now this is interesting all of a sudden I get a we think we think that
regarding physical wareness as entirely illusory or as a figment of the imagination,
or as a hocus pocus play I can be degenerative in the total advancement of
awareness can I give me a moment is let me see if I can figure out where this week
came from
Okay, since it's dealing with the unified field Proposition would be invalid hence the
pearl way it's not from a consensual agreement between entities per se
give me a moment again for my body to catch up
very good
let's read about and mystical literature and forms each one of the stars in the
constellation of the near death experience. perceptually represents correction is
the perceptual representation or the force leading back to the white light. Again, it
must be emphasized that that is the predominant fundamental band from which
the scatterings of awareness arise.
So in that it's a force is real in that it's a subway tunnel, it is not the it is perceived
as a tunnel because of the direction and indeed the unifying force of the white
light. In other words, there is no escaping it is completely surrounding an engulfing
and preeminence not thy will not my will but Thy will stems from this very
recognition or maybe not from this recognition but from that reality
or we've been given to understand that there are an infinite number of realities of
which ours is their physical reality is only one and you get any information to relate
to that
I think that says it in a nutshell
okay
everything is he's like, I can see it and it depends where any particular both sides
of perception is that it's false i because if it were just a singularity with a singular
band, it would tend to be lost in the oblivion of the white light, which is a
perception but there is no reference. Once there are two more bands
or faculties of perception then there is relation relation tends to blind one to the
greater reality. And so depending upon the end even in certain organisms that say
possess eight or nine, or possibly more faculties of perception the
The characteristics within those bands such as environment physical environment
for example you can come from a ghetto or a palace everything in between there's
such a diversity of configuration for one faculty perception that when we get into
multiple faculties even within similar organisms the the overall perspective is
borders the infinite if not an infinite and so when we go from two bands or two
faculties of perception giving us basic relations and building upon that
anything is possible anything is conceivable
okay, I wonder I wonder if you could now go even farther than you are and see
what comes through
farther wow I got a rush I went in directly into the white light instead of hovering
around a real rush of energy
Well, I want you to you've always been the sound of my voice
Okay, so now I'm inside it looking outward and I'm just laughing at the just loud
laughing at his art or maybe this is a joke that made Lazarus laugh I don't
seem to think from his perspective we take ourselves far far too seriously.
I'm sure that's true. Or what what our serious concern is here in the lab is just
learning to the best extent we can how to access communicatively from one reality
to another
nice hat trick
Okay, first impression is basic awareness. Next is theoretical models. Okay. Last in
the matching of the human awareness there are five cornerstones one of these
cornerstones is five sided in its own nature representing physical senses. Another
is the intellect and others dreaming another seeing another's feeling each of these
plays its own role
as each of these is cultivated and honed its own right with a balanced growth of
the individual
different realities are accessible Okay. theoretical framework would suppose that
there are different realities. Eventually this may become law but for practical
building purposes so, the theory will highlight the intellectual Cornerstone or vice
versa. The electron highlight a theory that should be kept in a firm but tenuous
position so, that the intellectual stay as a tool and not as the builder of reality for
me as a flashlight shining light, that it always shines in one direction a.
Well, my mind went back with the five cornerstones. I got three and possibly a
fourth one. One of the cornerstones was the five sided one of the senses. One was
feeling one was intellect. One I thought you might have said, seeing the fourth one
you might have seen seeing, but I'm not sure like visions
things that have been conducted in this session, and the other is dreaming of
which astral projection represents a one of the more refined uses of it. Does that
equal five?
Now the use of these senses is the investigative agents of theory to explore and to
test and to retest and to retest. And that's the way the bridges will be gapped.
And data from other dimensions manifest made known in this one pencil and paper
in the laboratory
No, I'm not quite clear what that means.
The question was, you wanted intercommunication between realities?
Yes. Yes. Right access from our level into other levels for some overall helpful
purposes.
Okay, the access comes down to refinement and the five cornerstones all working
together and not let any one of them carry the entire load.
Yes, good. That's helpful.
techniques to develop each Is that what you're looking for now?
Part of the problem is that we're never certain of what we're looking for.
Okay, here we have a two edged sword. The first is your theory is you wish to
explore and test. The other side is just to try to stumble upon new things, find out
what they are and then measure them in relation to current theories. Perhaps it's
one use
well in the beginning, which is where I feel we still are the exploring aspects seem
more appropriate than hypothesis testing the theorisation
Yes and no. I would seem a safe bet that the majority of the people associated with
the Explorer program already use their own theories they bring to bear their
theoretical framework. Many of their experiences reflect their theories they bring
with them for example, mine Viet shamanism in yours.
Course in Miracles. Somebody else can be a Hindu. Harold is pretty much a
freelancer. But yet he still has its overall worldview. The word worldview in this
instance is equivalent with theory.
Yes, well, it seems that our most productive experiences are when these theories
that we have of our own are, are dropped left aside and superseded by new
information and new experience
okay, maybe that's a theory got one to that point in the first place. So there is no
overemphasis on theory here. Theory offers direction is not universal in its scope.
But it would be my guess that the majority of the people associated with the
program interact with a predominant theory of their own
the idea of theory would leave the window open that would be incorporated into
the worldview that eventually theories must that eventually and even practically
speaking, theories must fall by the wayside until one's perception stands there
did it clear up anything more?
Yes, I was just was wondering what is in your perceptual awareness now, or in your
conscious awareness, we're approaching the sessions ending and I want to take a
check on where you are. I
seem to be flashing back to this between the blackness in the box and seeing you
at the console. And also there is again flashes of the white light. body feels pretty
relaxed, although it gets tense after a few minutes I would suppose and that's
when I've been saying I gotta back off to let my body catch up. They let it relax
because I got the sense that I would start stumbling over myself if I didn't back off
and let the body relax and catch up to where they are verbally information is
going. And okay, right now just back in the box. Eyes open trying to get my body to
relax.
I feel good about closing it out.
Yeah, it seems like an appropriate timing. To use some data here we have we have
it here. Welcome giving it to you in just a few minutes. 10 For.
Starting from 10 going to nine two and one C one.
is good to be doing it again. One thing I didn't mention at the very first I had Edie
T's flow reporting briefly is like Charlie showed up he wanted to tell me something.
I was wondering where they were. And I was thinking of staying
there and I was the best choice seemed kind of insistent. But then when I got into
it and we made the connection with the white light is demanding. Seeing the you
no big deal. We'll get back to when we want to tie if there wasn't that big of a deal.
I was curious to see what would happen there. But anyway, this is I think it's a
good session. Some rather time I'd like to hang out inside the white light a little
more. That seems to be an interesting perspective. That was in retrospect, I think
I've had glimpses of that before. Very brief lashes were I couldn't make sense that I
wouldn't have that context to put it into one of these times I like to just hang out
inside there and see what happens.
Well, we could try that, too today.
I like to if it's class,
I think we've essentially ended up until we're scheduled
for 330 units.
Okay, maybe we could track them there unless you feel like you want to do
something else today and save that for later.
Let's find out at 330 this might have been a good setup for the teaser might have
given a good set up to go back into the white light right after lunch nice impression
settle. Maybe we'll have a good idea it's kind of interesting
I don't know if I remember that much is I usually have been remembering guys.
Remember parts of the five cornerstones remember I don't have the sense of
recollection that I usually have with the tapes.
Well, that's all it's all in there with you and then LEM fold in your awareness as is
supposed to.
Yeah, that's the neat part of these tapes. Is it's like doing your precepts and then
later on your muscles grow
that's about it.
Okay, well, I felt was a good session. And let's just see what it feels like at 330 I
can just sit he thought it was 333
Well, that's fine too.
Today is a pretty jam day five sessions.