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[00:41:00] existence that's very good we're glad to know that he spoke of emotions and a great deal where does what we label love fit into this pattern is that an emotion or something beyond that love love is a love larger
[00:41:30] concept than the love we usually experience in the human State love um in the Universal sense is a kind
[00:42:00] of Brotherhood the concept of uh Unity the concept of wanting and needing to reun ify the
[00:42:30] energy but in the greater sense in the Universal sense this is an objetive rather than a subject itive
[00:43:00] experience in The Human Condition love is one of the emotions that are part of the attachments such as fear and hate and anger and
[00:43:30] joy sorry to interrupt but we run out of time on this side of the cassette to continue turn your cassette over to side two
[00:44:00] uh then in those also attachments um is our concept of Good and Evil is that more or less a local human custom H says it is very difficult for him
[00:44:30] to explain because it does not exist it is a myth interpretation but a necessary Mis interpretation because of the
[00:45:00] way the human development has progressed and he says perhaps he really means regress instead of progressed because there was one and
[00:45:30] understanding that all that exists in energy is perfection in the sense of being positive or what we call the right and uh good and and uh the idea
[00:46:00] that some part of this energy is a negative or bad is only an interpretation that there are two sides of an existence and how how can one say that the heads on a coin are right and the
[00:46:30] tals on that same coin are wrong I use for example uh some of the patterns that our religions have developed for example uh the question of the uh one that simply comes forth U
[00:47:00] what is the pattern if one were to say physically kill another individual another human is this uh there is no good or evil to this then is that correct H say this is very difficult to explain in uh in human
[00:47:30] terms but he will silently concentrate so he can try to explain to me so that I can explain to you what this means we will be quiet for a
[00:48:00] bit very good time lapse 3 minutes C he shows me little round hard uh bits of matter
[00:48:30] like metal balls small balls that are discolored and they need to be shined they need to go through an abrasive process to be polished because they were in tended to be
[00:49:00] bright and the process of polishing is done by other particles that exist for the purpose of polishing and he sees that I do not
[00:49:30] draw the connection fully so he will try in another way very good time lapse 1
[00:50:00] minute says he has tried to show me and uh I have had flashes but they do not seem to be meaningful but that the problem is
[00:50:30] um the the phrasy the uh terminology um that exists in The Human Condition we must move out of it and let go of the uh the um
[00:51:00] naming when we need to look at this issue this issue is larger than the Human Condition can assimilate but he says there is a state Beyond this condition in which
[00:51:30] we understand that each Act has a meaning in relationship to each other act and that one act cannot be called good and one act bad but it is only a
[00:52:00] process that all of the energy must go through that there is a cause and effect relationship existing and when we pull out a segment like a human being killing another human
[00:52:30] being if this has to be labeled then the only way it could be labeled is that this is the dark side this is the destructive side as opposed to the light that is why we have the good and bad
[00:53:00] labels but again he says in the true reality when one is able to objectively view all of what exists at the the same time then there are no
[00:53:30] labels there is just process existence that is a stage of development he leaves me puzzled and he says this is all I am able to
[00:54:00] impart to you with your limited ability to understand tell him we appreciate very much uh this uh attempt at the least in in that same uh or rather let's turn momentarily for another Direction and see if we can get another
[00:54:30] type of understanding in the terms of uh existence as humans are there uh humans who in turn uh in the their own existence now as they are now are there some that are uh
[00:55:00] identifiable can we identify those who are very spiritual people what are the uh characteristics that will let us identify a person who is very spiritual and very spiritually evolved um he has uh while you were asking that
[00:55:30] question H was giving me more insight into the previous question very good let me see if I can pass it
[00:56:00] through it's only an enigmatic concept that will help over time to understand the good evil uh terminology in the
[00:56:30] example you gave of one human being killing the other it is the one who kills who is dead we have a Miss in
[00:57:00] interpretation when we fully understand this part of the concept we will be uh one step uh closer to understanding the
[00:57:30] whole we will attempt to do it now he says uh he will uh attempt to respond to the question of the more highly developed individuals in the
[00:58:00] earth as there are very uh few uh individuals who have let go of the physical attachments are there any that we know of that we are aware
[00:58:30] of he says um these individuals may appear to us from time to time but they do not remain a part of our lives it is as if they walk
[00:59:00] in in the form of an ordinary person and give a message um give a needed uh example and then move on these highly developed individuals do not find
[00:59:30] themelves in the form of powerful influential famous persons we seldom know their names is there anyone in man's history that the history that we know uh that uh
[01:00:00] has existed he says beside Those whom we already know about such as Buddha Mohamed uh Christ Jesus and some of their
[01:00:30] immediate followers there have been those who remain namess and at times there have been more of the highly developed entities on the
[01:01:00] Earth all right yes thank you tell thank him for me um he expressed that uh the Viewpoint where all time is available to him uh from that perspective as of our time now and looking in the time just ahead of us uh what does it uh appear to him from his Viewpoint what are the major events
[01:01:30] that look to be in our near time within our physical lifetime what do they look to be the first word that comes through is chaos chaotic times ahead and I ask him to be
[01:02:00] specific I see buildings buildings rocking buildings cracking buildings hitting each other and screen
[01:02:30] terrible screams I see large bodies of water rising up engulfing all
[01:03:00] cities crashing down waves crashing down lifting up houses as if they were little Flex of dust
[01:03:30] but as I am being shown these two major tragic events strangely enough I am utterly detached from them I
[01:04:00] wonder why do I not feel emotionally involved it seems as if beneath or behind or Beyond this
[01:04:30] chaotic condition a more uh perfect form of existence exist
[01:05:00] it's as if this were all part of the cleansing process in what time frame does this take place and what is the cause of
[01:05:30] it I will try to stand back in the set up a sort of a distance from me for events that will be 10 or
[01:06:00] more years in the future and judge on the basis of the closeness of the events to me it appears that these events are very close rather than Beyond
[01:06:30] 10 years I cannot exactly pinpoint dates but it feels so close that as I Focus it's
[01:07:00] almost as if it is over I do not understand this way of expressing that is being shown to me
[01:07:30] I will ask specifically the answer I get is that the chaos is already in operation the treachery of man to men in
[01:08:00] particularly the treachery that is being perpetrated on innocent children is a forerunner of the more large Earth chaotic conditions there is uh a necessary uh
[01:08:30] cleansing process but the time is not fixed it is happening at a regular Pace one thing follows
[01:09:00] another the Earth is already shaking the events are taking place in a pattern that has long been established
[01:09:30] I see mhm what I see clearly is that within uh the 10 year period uh the worst will be over there will be a quiet again uh and peace
[01:10:00] and uh a new beginning appreciate very much much the help that Hans has given you and given
[01:10:30] me too and I think now that uh we should probably let you return now and um thank H so much for participating in our quiz as it were H says there is another m message that those of us who are
[01:11:00] expected to cope with the changes to continue to be a part of the human condition throughout the changes will be given
[01:11:30] extra strength and encouragement and that much inner work must be done much cleansing work must be done to prepare for the apocalypse he will help us do this I
[01:12:00] hope he says we will mainly have to help ourselves and each other but he continues to help and all of those on his plane continue to help to open our awareness
[01:12:30] and our understanding he says he will leave us now thank him so much for our his participation with us and we hope to meet him again uh in the very near future according to our time and perhaps we can explore other
[01:13:00] things there is something I wish to report is not from Hans all right but there has been an effort an attempt on the part of other
[01:13:30] extraterrestrial beings to make contact I have not fully given my permission when they have attempted to make contact before I have uh made made it clear that I only want
[01:14:00] contact from those beings who come from the one whom I regard as God that is all why would they like to contact you do you know there is a feeling of
[01:14:30] caution on my part as if some of these beings may wish to use my body for purposes of their own and I am not certain these are the most highlevel uh
[01:15:00] purposes I could not Hans uh uh tell you about this uh or guide you in this uh if at any time you decided to consider it H has come back and seems to be uh rather uh shrugging his shoulders all
[01:15:30] yes which can mean anything can yes almost as if you were saying uh there are times when you are on your own I do not fully believe this I feel as if it is more of a a um Tool uh he is using to uh give me more
[01:16:00] discrimination to help me develop uh my own discrimination but I fully believe he and others remain with me I suspect they do MH so are you ready to return now yes all right I will give you some nice beta
[01:16:30] signal and what else I can find debrief debrief how you doing F and do you remember all that well not all of it I wondered how much of it you
[01:17:00] remembered did you find it interesting what you remembered what I remembered was the part about the um the uh waves and um I remembered the imagery I did not have very much imagery do you that's the remember the wave then mhm it was it was indeed a very
[01:17:30] interesting session I wish I'd had some uh um gauges on you for this one I was very deep I know you were this is uh as about as deep as I remember you being and that's why I wondered how how do you feel now all right I'm not all the way back but I um I feel fine I I don't feel anything don't feel anything well I mean
[01:18:00] I don't feel bad I don't feel good I I'm just getting reacquainted with my body I suspect so I didn't know whether you uh uh you had the most unusual voice delivery I've ever heard you do really right I someday I'll play it back for you all right it's it's really hard to describe it's uh it's not the you that I know anyway it won't be the you that you know