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[00:00:00] here again is another Explorer tape taken from the recording files of the Monroe Institute this particular session is important to us for several reasons first the time this report or communication took place in January 1981 second a change in eight years of working with this particular member of our Explorer team whom we code mjl she moved into a different state of consciousness far different than any she had previously achieved
[00:00:30] finally the quality of the Explorer herself we obviously know her well with her doctorate in Psychology she has been in clinical and private practice for over 20 years keep all of these in mind and listen mgl isolated in the dark and check unit is somewhere past Focus 15 Hans and I walked up a path
[00:01:00] PA after we greeted each other a very very steep path to the top of a very high mountain the top of the world
[00:01:30] now we're just sitting looking down at all of the other mountains how is he he's fine he was so glad to see me very good mhm what you say St up
[00:02:00] here looking down as H if he would uh like to answer some questions we've thought up for him says Fine ask him what it's like to be where he is what does what is his existence like h
[00:02:30] he says that mostly it's a comfortable feeling in the sense of what a human would feel who is in tune
[00:03:00] with his surroundings that feelings are different for him because he has no Body Sensations in the same fashion that human beings
[00:03:30] have feelings but it is on a Continuum so that he does have some similarity and he does not have the words
[00:04:00] that clearly distinguish for example he may speak of frustration because our understanding of what frustration is would best
[00:04:30] describe what he is experiencing at a given time or he might use a word such as balanced which would mean his
[00:05:00] experience of his existence corresponds to what we mean as human beings when we say balanced so with this Preface on says there is a part of his
[00:05:30] existence that becomes somewhat difficult when he has charges whom he cannot reach
[00:06:00] because they are too busy and cluttered but when he's able to break through and have some measure of connection
[00:06:30] with those persons whom he is working for and with then his existence seems to flow he says that he
[00:07:00] has a purpose and a meaningful participation in the whole of existance
[00:07:30] in a similar way to the human participation that he is in a different plane a different rung of the ladder so to speak
[00:08:00] but it is still a Continuum he says is there something more specific we want him to respond to yes and thank him for
[00:08:30] that participation but uh he mentioned the question of frustration does he experience emotion he says he does not experience emotion in the same way that humans experience emotion but he was a human and he has a
[00:09:00] memory so that when the various experiences react within him it is like
[00:09:30] tuning into a memory bank and there is a reflection like a reflection of an emotion he says we must remember that emotion
[00:10:00] are tied in with the physical body but the mental body as a reflection of the emotion
[00:10:30] he has those Reflections that come like waves so he can recognize there is a
[00:11:00] different state but it is not attached to him in the same way that our emotions are attached to us
[00:11:30] than his emotions uh he acts upon the reflections or does emotion in any way that reflection uh caus him to act or perform in a certain way such as it often does with us humans he says they serve as a motiv motivating
[00:12:00] energy so yes in a way they cause him to act somewhat differently but remember in a more detached manner it is like
[00:12:30] he feels a nudging a mental pushing a um a um extra awareness of a need to move slightly this way or that in his work do you
[00:13:00] understand yes yes I I perceive what he means does he in turn um Carry with him uh as he is now all of the memory when he was human is it recallable to him at will yes but it is
[00:13:30] not um interfering in the sense that yes he can recall if it is appropriate but it does not hang about so to speak it does not clutter inter
[00:14:00] fear yes I it's very good um he used the term charges and making uh getting in touch with his charges uh this infers that he is charged with making such communication how did such how did he obtain such charges
[00:14:30] he says at his level of development he is a part of a planning team that assumes respond
[00:15:00] responsibility for certain spiritual improvements that it is as if his team
[00:15:30] members are responsible for the spiritual development of a certain segment of humans and also they have responsibilities
[00:16:00] for other entities who are not human but who are not developed to their level how how did he uh join this team how did he come to be a member of it
[00:16:30] you other laughs and says we have been buddies for centuries we have been in the world together and we have been in the
[00:17:00] nothingness Together We Are One Tru one I mean by that we are a part of the greater one but more closely a part of one another when the
[00:17:30] Great movement took place the great splitting off of the parts we were one and we divided into our present individual parts then I
[00:18:00] therefore find it very intriguing to ask what he means by when the Great movement took place he says
[00:18:30] we were all one body of the energy we contain
[00:19:00] all of the planets all of life he
[00:19:30] does not know the precipitation but he knows there was a breaking off of the Sun and the Moon and the
[00:20:00] planets and he for a while was a part of the sun energy there was not all was an
[00:20:30] individual Consciousness in the sense of an understanding and intelligence although the great Universal intelligence always existed the
[00:21:00] mental processes as we know them today developed when it was necessary for them to be in terms of a system in
[00:21:30] terms of an organized structured pattern all he is sure of is that each particle of matter is important
[00:22:00] and each particle has its place and it's Duty or responsibility each reacts on the other and here recalls a
[00:22:30] time when his particular combinations of energy matter seemed to exist in a separate kind of space as a unit that
[00:23:00] could think and reason and that at the time when humans were developed this entity split
[00:23:30] again into five different parts these subsequently have become what he earlier referred to as a
[00:24:00] team as they split apart they developed different attributes
[00:24:30] did they stay in communication with each other yes but not always in direct communication when they were human beings when they were
[00:25:00] inhabiting human bodies they had only a slight amount of communication in a direct form I see that's very interesting the then did they all inhabit human bodies at uh the same period of time as we know
[00:25:30] time some experiences have been thus some have been experiences in which one or other of the team would inhabit a
[00:26:00] human body is any member of the team is any member of the team inhabiting a human body at this point in our time
[00:26:30] this is very interesting it is as if Hans has turned his back on that question all right any
[00:27:00] impression came of yes no yes no I questioned again and he says it is not for you to know very good if that is important then we will not um push the question another thing that he mentioned
[00:27:30] was that they were responsible for nonhuman uh entities when he says that of what is he speaking entities who have left the human body but are not not yet selfs
[00:28:00] sufficient and self directed on another plane he says the concept in the church called Purgatory is something like what he refers
[00:28:30] to although other Concepts connected with guilt and Punishment are incorrect then these have been humans I did not hear the question uh then these nonhuman uh have been at one time inhabiting a
[00:29:00] human body these particular non humans have been in bodies but he says there are energy forms that have not been a part of human or animal or plant life as we know
[00:29:30] it do these of which he just mentioned uh do they have intelligence such as uh uh humans purportedly have these entities are split off parts of the greater whole of
[00:30:00] energy and if it were needed for balance of the system for these entities to develop all qualities of a system as we know
[00:30:30] it the seeds are there can he communicate with such if he so desired now he says it is possible but in their plane
[00:31:00] persons are singl mindedly attentive to their own responsibilities and this is out of the area of his and his teams responsibility
[00:31:30] very good mhm if he were to uh uh what in what direction does he try to help his charges move what uh uh what pattern does he try to help them form he says that he must
[00:32:00] begin by helping each to understand emotionally as well as mentally the place where the individual is at the present moment
[00:32:30] moment then he helps the person to begin to appreciate the things of this world and this life and feel a stewardship for his body and his
[00:33:00] environment and then be ready to let go of any attachment the attachments are the major problems the major Lu to
[00:33:30] spirituality even uh the attachment to what we call religion and religious practice is a stumbling block to spirituality uh once he is able to
[00:34:00] help the individual to let go of attachments there is only Bliss and joy and harmony
[00:34:30] how does he help his charges do this he has a way of becoming one with those individ jeels at
[00:35:00] times so that a fles will seem to go through the mind the understanding a flash of an idea or a uh a tendency to to follow a
[00:35:30] path or a pattern in other words he uses all that is available in the world people and situations and emotions so that there is a myriad of ways in which he
[00:36:00] works but mainly it is in the process of identification with the entity but this is only very briefly so that as the entity develops The Entity will begin to
[00:36:30] know that this this kind of inspiration comes the inspiration is at the moment of the identification that is very good uh what then uh is there any relationship
[00:37:00] to his communication During the period that what we call sleep he says there are many times when he can communicate directly during sleep it is a different form of
[00:37:30] communication that there is a type of a dream state in which the entity with whom he works such as myself moves more into an understanding of
[00:38:00] hans's existence and moves with him to work in another plane this work in another plane then reflects on the work that is being done done on the Earth
[00:38:30] plane so that it is a Cooperative Venture we would like also and just interject U to more fully understand why we need to sleep what is the purpose of this sleep that we humans do
[00:39:00] he says the purpose from the universal standpoint is to maintain the connection to maintain this cooperation between
[00:39:30] entities at different levels of development and on different planes but that also there is a purpose in terms of the physical body body a
[00:40:00] purpose for releasing built up uh tensions and pressures in the human body he says that there is a development level that can be reached so that those
[00:40:30] tensions will not build up and at that level the only purpose would be to maintain the communication and inter connection with the other planes of