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computer stories systems and access them and raise hell and put in viruses and all sorts of
stuff. Uncontrolled penetration of computer systems and an unauthorized they're called
hackers because they learn the protection codes and get into it and then they can play. I'm not
at all unsure that what I'm talking about is not being a Hackers have a system that you're really
not designed for that type of penetration. That doesn't mean that there's a policeman or FBI is
gonna come along and grab you. But the data that you've become immersed in is pretty heavy
stuff. And I can only tell you that it is non human stuff. Because, again, you're over to an M
base on mainframe type of signals as against the age base, which is the human base. And
you've learned that access code to translate all of this into that. It's an entirely different
structured base. And I'm not sure but what the you must approach that all very cautiously. But
where you are right tonight, happily, I wouldn't have brought it all up. If I didn't know that you
have that capability of approaching this car cautiously, and finding this wonderful, wonderful
source on the downlink on that mainframe. Yep.
21:24
Your modem, what is the relationship at all between the ability to produce a low amplitude and
the ability to get to backdoor access? Going?
Bob Monroe 21:38
Well, would you guess, I guess it's very tightly related. They are, but not in the way you think.
You set up a spurious signal, and hide behind the spurious signal, as that signal goes in. There
you are going in with your nice good spikes, like this. And there you are back in here. I'm
putting it all in a modern idiom, because I don't know of any other way to just to pull all the all
the historical stuff away from it, so that you can see it in a modern context. And this is why I'm
trying to bring it out in a different kind of way.
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Or another question if I could, if we say that in many ways,
Bob Monroe 22:31
I hope there's been somebody that brings
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in particularly in Eastern religions that enlightenment is embodied by a circle, there's no
beginning there's no end there's no good there's no evil, okay? And we're in the middle of that
continuum. If we're supposedly in life in producing that low amplitude signal, nothing fazes this
week it is what it is. isn't much as much in the same way as a circle or a spiral is a more
sophisticated mathematical shape and a circle it takes more variable to describe it isn't there
possibly something beyond just that simple enlightenment low amplitude signal i i do have the
good or bad about balance but I want to do something about it and move that circle up which
begins to spiral and
Bob Monroe 23:24
that's exactly what I'm talking about. In other words in stating in another form Yes, this closed
loop circle is getting out of it another way to put it which i i could go in and describe it better
graphically.
Bob Monroe 23:57
Did that James take all that away? I bet he did. Well, I'll do it again. Yeah, well, that's good
leave in the trash can I can do it so much easier to do. I can do it all over again. Much faster.
Le line of demarcation.
Bob Monroe 24:31
Here's the here radiation. I'll state this in another way in graphs that
Bob Monroe 24:45
here's their radiation
Bob Monroe 24:52
All right. Now let's say that If I do it in a different type of graph, it'll come out I trust the same
way. Think of this area here as that known area, and a huge radiation of what human
consciousness is, a gets up, I have a nother description for it. I call it the H band noise. And
the reason I call it that is because this is not organized. Thought radiation. It's the most
vigorous this organized junk you ever heard you have to live when you get up out of it, so that
you can perceive it. In other words, where it it follows that inverse square law or seems to
anyway, so appears softer and weaker, you can then perceive it a lot better. You get out of it.
On the other hand, here's this radiation coming down in here. Now. I can only again describe
this by allegory. And perhaps it may be more fun to do it that way. So here, you come, we
come. Whatever. And we're cruising along here like this. doodly doo doo doo doo doo, man.
What's that? Smell interesting. Doo doo doo doo doo doo. Hmm, tastes pretty good, too. So
you wave around here. And you say I'm wondering, you get perceive all this and begin to
perceive this radiation. And you say, I wonder what that is. Now. Now. Now I can experience
and all of a sudden, you're doing this, you perceive a doorway. And there's a big guy standing
there like this. And you go up to this guy. You say? What's that down there? He says, that's
being human down there. That's what it is. You say to him? Well, how do you do that? He
says, You mean you won't be good, be human? And you say, Well, I was. I can't really get a
good taste of it up here. Maybe just a little bit. He says you sure you want to do something like
that? He says no, you see, he goes, because I'm the guy that I talked to because I'm the entry
director, you could just call me Edie. And Edie says, you want to do it you Sure? He said, Well,
no, I just want to taste it a little bit. I don't want to not want to stay there. Just come into it a little
bit. And he says, Well, you can if you want to do that, you can get a sample of it. And you
make that turn very sharply in there, right like that. And it says, well, there's certain things that
you have to understand. He says, first of all, there's some rules we got to accept. You sign a
contract, which says that you recognize that this does exist, it's not an illusion, you really does
exist. It is okay, fine. Where I science is no more to it. So what else? He says, in order to make
this existence work for you, you have to temporarily erase all of your present memory
experience, otherwise, you will work for you. Okay, fine. What do I say? Wait a minute. You got
to make another decision. You say why? as well. He says, You got to decide whether you want
to be male or female. And you say, what's that? He's never mind. So the next step, he says, he
says, now I can tell you that where would you like within this? To start? Usually? Well, I don't
know. It is well, I tell you, he says there is a there's waitlist and online this stuff. He says if you
want Park Avenue in New York, that's waitlist to that's tough stuff to get into. And he says in in
over outside of Hollywood. It's pretty tough stuff, too, he says, and it's over there in Beverly
Hills, pretty tough. She's got some real fast ones in Africa, you can get no waitlisting bang and
their left. India the same thing. China's not quite as good, but it's still good to get your merit.
And he says even got a few Eskimos, if you like that kind of vibe, but it's just as kind of slow
too. But you gotta make up your mind. And he says, You say Well, what about this New York
stuff? And you got anything in New York? because that sounds new, and because it sounds
new that makes good, nice start new fresh. And it looks at things and he says, Yeah, I think I
can do that. He says, Yeah, but he says, What will we be Park Avenue? Just like you say, I
don't care. I just want to get in and get a sample get out. I don't care. Okay, are you ready?
And he says sign here. So fam, you sign here and the imprint. And then he says, Okay. You go
down, you go through, you go, Oh, sing, and you enter. And there's a screaming, yelling of a
little newborn baby on the fifth floor of walk up on the landing in the Bronx news in New York.
Amid all the broken glass and the dust, and the garbage, this little baby lies screaming, while
his 13 year old mother, having just delivered rushes down the stairs to get away from this
newborn squalling thing. And your feeling is Get me out of here. What did I do? You feel this
tremendous restriction, honestly, and you can't make anything worth all this heavy signal can
use your elbow, elbow, nobody hears you. So you go through, and existence and pass on, not
out, because that's temporary, but pass on. And you come out this other side. And you've had
your experience that you came together. So you come out this way. And normally, we should
have been your route that you would have taken after your sampling of It's so strange this thing
has happened. What has happened is that you have picked up some friction through here. And
your speed is reduced. You don't know it. But that's what took place. Also, you picked up a
load factor. And both of these contribute to the reduction of this velocity that you had, and you
don't have Escape Velocity anymore. You instead, you represent that by at this point, making a
decision and saying, I think I'll try it again. I didn't like being female at all, I want to be a male.
So hey, you said just once more, I guess I won't have a good taste of this unless I'm a male.
And that's your decision, the moment you you, no one else makes this decision, you made it.
Begin to loop around and you have got have established an orbit, you go down in again. And
when you go down and enter again, and live through another pattern. You pick up more
resistance, your speed is slowed even more, you pick up a greater load factor. You come out
here with every you intended just one more, but that's not the way it works. You make the
decision to say, you know, I liked to ride in an airplane, I never had a chance to ride. So you
come around here again, just once more just once because you're still above the line here,
don't you see. So the influence of this radiation, which is from whence you came, this green is
still there. But this time you go down and around and it's becoming less and less. We come out
again. And you and you don't even think too much because you're below this line of
demarcation and Stein where this influence is stronger than this and begins to sublimate this
other, you come around like that. And you think I was supposed to do suddenly what was it?
What was it? Oh, I got to go back. You keep doing this around and around and around and
around and around and around. Having your orbit decayed steadily down until you're locked in
and you're locked in so tight that you don't even
Bob Monroe 34:39
remember this radiation even though it's there. It's so overwhelmed by this radiation of human
consciousness slash experience that you only have it in your wild dreams at night. With that in
mind, what does that make? Those of us who go through that having for a number of different
reasons, and one of the biggest ones, strangely enough, is curiosity. There are a number of
other reasons why one enters this is interesting and all of this, you can go find out for yourself.
Welcome. Another reason, which is that beginning we can know what this is, once you get into
it. There's our good fat word for that. That's human junkies. You've become addicted to being
human. With all of its blandishments and all of its reasons to be human. You really got it bad.
Other reasons to enter this other basic reasons. One of them is very interestingly enough, are
what you might call remittance man. I'm sure there were remittance women. Do you know what
a remittance man was? Well, back in the days of the British Empire in the social and nobility
strata of England, if they had a son, or a daughter, every I've only heard of the sons, but I
presume they certainly must have been daughters, who were unacceptable socially, for
whatever reason, black sheep is another bird. Because their their thinking or being was
unacceptable. They paid them to stay in Australia, in Sydney, or in New Zealand, or anywhere
except London, and they remit it every month, the funds to keep them there. That's why they
were called remittance man, they were paid to stay there. Think of some poor character who
can't, is unsuitable in his own energy system, and was quoted paid to come here and be
human. is terrible. Or, which is another side of that coin, which is a cute one. This is what