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Robert A. Monroe Wednesday Night GATEWAY Talk 1989-03-15 (Transcript) NOTE: This is a raw transcript – it is exactly as created by otter.ai. Bob Monroe 00:28 Buddy been doing you these people Bob Monroe 00:43 Good morning again haha Bob Monroe 00:54 yeah, that's right, it's your chair, how did we get here thank you for the hot coffee Bob Monroe 01:08 so I guess I'll have to wake you up a little bit here sitting you're all smug and secure and safe and sassy. So must be something I can add that'll wake you up a little bit Bob Monroe 01:33 think probably the best way would be to begin to give you a a little project that you can seek out and verify. Mind you, I go back to that whole thing. You have knowns and unknowns and you have in between belief systems, well, I have a beautiful beard that I hang up here. And so I say to you, anytime you find out for yourself, then you know it, then you don't have to believe it anymore. You can know whatever only you can know about you. It doesn't make any difference about proving something to anyone else. I don't have to prove anything to you because I hold up the mirror and say go find out for yourself. Because happily, I know you can. And so I'm in a fat cat seat because I know that that's a knowledge with me. So with that in mind. I will so you unknown to me. And see if you would like to go and find out about it. It's probably one of the most interesting pieces of phenomenon that I can hand to you to go explore. And I can only use it if you get to it as some type of allegorical terms otherwise, there's no way to explain it. Start first of all, with the knowledge that evil you got these two prime things as I know them, that you're doing here. One is to get that broad banded experience, the agony and the ecstasy, the whole run of the existence here. Second, you're acquiring that precious commodity we like to call the left brain these are of exquisite value. Now the big heavy question is this one. As you i We are here each of us is sort of a surrogate is the best way I can express it, a surrogate information gather that every item of your existence, what you think what you do, what you feel, your emotions, everything in every nanosecond is recorded. Now the important thing is that you and this was the Oh anybody knows that. You're laying it off into and storing it. Think of yourself as the operator of a workstation. You're how many era computer happy well want to do more than that gracious sakes. It should be 96% my stats are right. So think of yourself as The operator of a workstation. And constantly you're gathering in this information, all of this total information as to existence here. And as I, for example, pick up my cup of coffee, and have a sip. The muscular patterns, the CIP the taste, all of that is saved over to floppy disk, good way saved over to floppy disk. You I, as an operator of this particular workstation, know that that's being saved over to disk. That saving is what we might call you, when it's in the computer, it's in short term memory gets over to the disk, it's long term memory, that's a nice way to put it, you can play around with what that CRT display is all about, you can play around with what the printout is, and all of that. And what if you think of you have a basic operating system, let's call it the MOS are the H OS better still the human operating system and that's the basic, then you have a special programming on top of that, that's been inserted into your workstation, which is you and your incoming patterns, whatever they are, even though you're not aware of them, consciously, but there they are. Because these are the drives, this is the the programming a special programming that is you, I have one you have one, then we are busy is all good. Putting this stuff in here and dumping it off here putting the computer as well just so that we in turn, don't get into too trouble, we save it up periodically over the desk in case there is a power failure. And some of us some not us but some special of our workstation, people probably have obviously already a power that prevents such problems. But they're the more sophisticated type. Our more primitive ones, we haven't gotten to that stage yet. So we have to look with Terra Vir at a temporary glitch in the power. So you can figure all sorts of things at any type any, any spikes down the line that the filter doesn't take care of gives us trouble. So it isn't quite as smooth sailing in terms of Les of gathering this information and saving it here and periodically dropping it off into this storage. Think of you as that workstation operator. And having been here gathering this as are here that as you do this, there are certain patterns that take place, there may be a malfunction in your chips and someone has to the technician has to come in and take care of this stuff and fix it around because your your your reporting is not particularly accurate or whatever. There's all sorts that you can play with the allegory however you want to take it but bear in mind, the principal thing is, you are gathering information. Now, the interesting part about this and this, from my perspective is checkable is not only are you automatically gathering this information, gathering this experience, and putting it in your story system, but there is an uplink out of your workstation to what might loosely be called the mainframe. And mind you every part of what you are, as you live this is being transmitted on this uplink to this mainframe, or over here, whatever however you want to put the flair of the mainframe, I don't this make any difference. So every instance of you is moving into that mainframe. And so it becomes quite apparent if you recognize that as annoying that if every, every iota of you is within that mainframe up to the very instant of the time that you pass away, or pass on, or whether the computer crashes. For whatever reason, then there are many reasons that is very simple. In the mainframe, there's a button that you can push, push with your coding on it and pass Oh, there you are again. So what do you worry, just help it survive. It's all there. Most importantly is the mainframe doesn't care. It has is no sense of morality judgment or anything about this data that it's receiving it just receives it happily and joyfully it doesn't eat, it has no moral sense about it at all, he doesn't care whether you're a cat a coward, or a charmer, he doesn't care. If that's not important, what you're doing is that so there you are, at this mainframe reception point you down here at the workstation, and there you are chomping away. And that's all being pumped to this mainframe happily chopping it and storing it. And take the next part that if, for example, you for any reason, then do crash. You have no concerns at all about survival of this, because you're in the mainframe, all of you up to a very instant, nothing is missing of you. It's all in the mainframe. Now, here's where it gets to be a little bit of fun. Bob Monroe 11:34 Where it gets to be fun is that suppose for example, a, you do crash. Or take the other side of it, which gets even worse. Suppose that you begin to get smart. Or some smarts if you want to put it that way. And you begin to recognize fully what you are doing and why you are here. And so then your experience changes. Because you're supposed to be an uninformed workstation, all you're doing is do this. But the more that you get loose of the human experience, as it is falling live, the less conceivably a veil that you have to the mainframe, because you temper the edges of the depth of experience, you avoid less agony, avoid agony, more and avoid ecstasy, you run a smooth, nice wave form where the wave for the mainframe is looking for all this deep stuff and all this peak stuff, and you smooth it out. So mainframe becomes acutely aware of a derogation of your production, your output is suffering and is not up to par, everybody else is really saving all this stuff up. But you because you got some kind of smarts here. You're not really pushing the stuff you're holding back or whatever. So after a while, what can happen and becomes exquisitely logical. Remember, it's all left brain logic. After a while, the left brain says something wrong down there whether it was old C C's not delivering anymore. What do we do? There's well a better yank him out of his nose is not economically viable to keep him there and the longer so I say with that, because the performance of the production has gone down and the quality of that has gone down also, so it's almost uneven line. That's nothing anybody can do. Nice, even wavy line, you're looking for all the big spikes. So the mainframe says yank them out so quick, you crashes a mainframe and you go back, you're lifted out of it, you're gone. Mainframe takes you back for r&r and you can take the r&r means remove and replace or repair and return or rest and recuperation. Our was the other one, right and relocate. There's all sorts of you pick your own r&r. So that's kind of interesting. Take the next point is that so If you begin to explore this premise, you find a strange thing that you can begin to determine where this offloading in to the uplink takes place. And what it is. And you get kind of irritated because you will say that's not the way it is. But that's how the signal processing stuff interprets it. And what we call dreams are is that transmission into is there's a signal that is in HBase, you see and there's a transducer that's converting that signal over into M Frame base, and it gets all this started. And this all this green material is that whole process is storing over into your temporary hole but it's also feeding the mainframe in the mainframe stuff. You once you get smart, you want it to be accurate and somehow it's not quite right. Because it's also transmitting AHA it's transmitting all of your secret hidden wishes and desires. Like if you have this hidden underlying thing that you wish you could kill your father and so you have this symbolizing hard covered up layered up resistance to authority of any kind, simply because you have this hidden child wish to kill your father. Matrix is all fine click the straight smiting transducer says kill father kill father kill father unscented and, and you perceiving that, as that process taking place in converting to another language base, says no, no, that's not the way it is. You call it a dream or a nightmare. The transducer doesn't care. It just shifts it. So if you can think of that process of what you're doing, as gathering experience, this experience laying it off here and that's just for your local use, of course, memory storage, but the key thing is that uplink to the mainframe, now. You awake. Bob Monroe 17:31 Think of what can and does take place. One of the things that you can be become aware of is that paradoxically, there is an uplink. And you can find this you can really feel that fattened flow if you want to do it. But there's also a downlink. And that down Lake has signals coming from the mainframe and his constant the key other parts that makes it really I give you a note of caution, that what I'm talking about is gaining the secret access code to this uplink downlink communication system. In other words, there is a backdoor signal password that can let you into this and then you can perceive the uplink and the downlink. The question is is what you when you objectively do this and become this ie through this backdoor password what does that make us? You? Hackers? Bob Monroe 19:09 You know what actors are? No Yeah. How many don't know what I mean by hacker. That's are these these Whiz Kids in 12 or 1314 years old, who are able to break the codes of various