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Robert A. Monroe
Wednesday Night GATEWAY Talk
1989-03-15
(Transcript)
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Bob Monroe 00:28
Buddy been doing you these people
Bob Monroe 00:43
Good morning again haha
Bob Monroe 00:54
yeah, that's right, it's your chair, how did we get here thank you for the hot coffee
Bob Monroe 01:08
so I guess I'll have to wake you up a little bit here sitting you're all smug and secure and safe
and sassy. So must be something I can add that'll wake you up a little bit
Bob Monroe 01:33
think probably the best way would be to begin to give you a a little project that you can seek
out and verify. Mind you, I go back to that whole thing. You have knowns and unknowns and
you have in between belief systems, well, I have a beautiful beard that I hang up here. And so I
say to you, anytime you find out for yourself, then you know it, then you don't have to believe it
anymore. You can know whatever only you can know about you. It doesn't make any
difference about proving something to anyone else. I don't have to prove anything to you
because I hold up the mirror and say go find out for yourself. Because happily, I know you can.
And so I'm in a fat cat seat because I know that that's a knowledge with me. So with that in
mind. I will so you unknown to me. And see if you would like to go and find out about it. It's
probably one of the most interesting pieces of phenomenon that I can hand to you to go
explore. And I can only use it if you get to it as some type of allegorical terms otherwise,
there's no way to explain it. Start first of all, with the knowledge that evil you got these two
prime things as I know them, that you're doing here. One is to get that broad banded
experience, the agony and the ecstasy, the whole run of the existence here. Second, you're
acquiring that precious commodity we like to call the left brain these are of exquisite value.
Now the big heavy question is this one. As you i We are here each of us is sort of a surrogate
is the best way I can express it, a surrogate information gather that every item of your
existence, what you think what you do, what you feel, your emotions, everything in every
nanosecond is recorded. Now the important thing is that you and this was the Oh anybody
knows that. You're laying it off into and storing it. Think of yourself as the operator of a
workstation. You're how many era computer happy well want to do more than that gracious
sakes. It should be 96% my stats are right. So think of yourself as The operator of a
workstation. And constantly you're gathering in this information, all of this total information as
to existence here. And as I, for example, pick up my cup of coffee, and have a sip. The
muscular patterns, the CIP the taste, all of that is saved over to floppy disk, good way saved
over to floppy disk. You I, as an operator of this particular workstation, know that that's being
saved over to disk. That saving is what we might call you, when it's in the computer, it's in
short term memory gets over to the disk, it's long term memory, that's a nice way to put it, you
can play around with what that CRT display is all about, you can play around with what the
printout is, and all of that. And what if you think of you have a basic operating system, let's call
it the MOS are the H OS better still the human operating system and that's the basic, then you
have a special programming on top of that, that's been inserted into your workstation, which is
you and your incoming patterns, whatever they are, even though you're not aware of them,
consciously, but there they are. Because these are the drives, this is the the programming a
special programming that is you, I have one you have one, then we are busy is all good.
Putting this stuff in here and dumping it off here putting the computer as well just so that we in
turn, don't get into too trouble, we save it up periodically over the desk in case there is a power
failure. And some of us some not us but some special of our workstation, people probably
have obviously already a power that prevents such problems. But they're the more
sophisticated type. Our more primitive ones, we haven't gotten to that stage yet. So we have to
look with Terra Vir at a temporary glitch in the power. So you can figure all sorts of things at
any type any, any spikes down the line that the filter doesn't take care of gives us trouble. So it
isn't quite as smooth sailing in terms of Les of gathering this information and saving it here and
periodically dropping it off into this storage. Think of you as that workstation operator. And
having been here gathering this as are here that as you do this, there are certain patterns that
take place, there may be a malfunction in your chips and someone has to the technician has to
come in and take care of this stuff and fix it around because your your your reporting is not
particularly accurate or whatever. There's all sorts that you can play with the allegory however
you want to take it but bear in mind, the principal thing is, you are gathering information. Now,
the interesting part about this and this, from my perspective is checkable is not only are you
automatically gathering this information, gathering this experience, and putting it in your story
system, but there is an uplink out of your workstation to what might loosely be called the
mainframe. And mind you every part of what you are, as you live this is being transmitted on
this uplink to this mainframe, or over here, whatever however you want to put the flair of the
mainframe, I don't this make any difference. So every instance of you is moving into that
mainframe. And so it becomes quite apparent if you recognize that as annoying that if every,
every iota of you is within that mainframe up to the very instant of the time that you pass away,
or pass on, or whether the computer crashes. For whatever reason, then there are many
reasons that is very simple. In the mainframe, there's a button that you can push, push with
your coding on it and pass Oh, there you are again. So what do you worry, just help it survive.
It's all there. Most importantly is the mainframe doesn't care. It has is no sense of morality
judgment or anything about this data that it's receiving it just receives it happily and joyfully it
doesn't eat, it has no moral sense about it at all, he doesn't care whether you're a cat a
coward, or a charmer, he doesn't care. If that's not important, what you're doing is that so there
you are, at this mainframe reception point you down here at the workstation, and there you are
chomping away. And that's all being pumped to this mainframe happily chopping it and storing
it. And take the next part that if, for example, you for any reason, then do crash. You have no
concerns at all about survival of this, because you're in the mainframe, all of you up to a very
instant, nothing is missing of you. It's all in the mainframe. Now, here's where it gets to be a
little bit of fun.
Bob Monroe 11:34
Where it gets to be fun is that suppose for example, a, you do crash. Or take the other side of
it, which gets even worse. Suppose that you begin to get smart. Or some smarts if you want to
put it that way. And you begin to recognize fully what you are doing and why you are here. And
so then your experience changes. Because you're supposed to be an uninformed workstation,
all you're doing is do this. But the more that you get loose of the human experience, as it is
falling live, the less conceivably a veil that you have to the mainframe, because you temper the
edges of the depth of experience, you avoid less agony, avoid agony, more and avoid ecstasy,
you run a smooth, nice wave form where the wave for the mainframe is looking for all this deep
stuff and all this peak stuff, and you smooth it out. So mainframe becomes acutely aware of a
derogation of your production, your output is suffering and is not up to par, everybody else is
really saving all this stuff up. But you because you got some kind of smarts here. You're not
really pushing the stuff you're holding back or whatever. So after a while, what can happen and
becomes exquisitely logical. Remember, it's all left brain logic. After a while, the left brain says
something wrong down there whether it was old C C's not delivering anymore. What do we do?
There's well a better yank him out of his nose is not economically viable to keep him there and
the longer so I say with that, because the performance of the production has gone down and
the quality of that has gone down also, so it's almost uneven line. That's nothing anybody can
do. Nice, even wavy line, you're looking for all the big spikes. So the mainframe says yank
them out so quick, you crashes a mainframe and you go back, you're lifted out of it, you're
gone. Mainframe takes you back for r&r and you can take the r&r means remove and replace
or repair and return or rest and recuperation. Our was the other one, right and relocate.
There's all sorts of you pick your own r&r. So that's kind of interesting. Take the next point is
that so If you begin to explore this premise, you find a strange thing that you can begin to
determine where this offloading in to the uplink takes place. And what it is. And you get kind of
irritated because you will say that's not the way it is. But that's how the signal processing stuff
interprets it. And what we call dreams are is that transmission into is there's a signal that is in
HBase, you see and there's a transducer that's converting that signal over into M Frame base,
and it gets all this started. And this all this green material is that whole process is storing over
into your temporary hole but it's also feeding the mainframe in the mainframe stuff. You once
you get smart, you want it to be accurate and somehow it's not quite right. Because it's also
transmitting AHA it's transmitting all of your secret hidden wishes and desires. Like if you have
this hidden underlying thing that you wish you could kill your father and so you have this
symbolizing hard covered up layered up resistance to authority of any kind, simply because
you have this hidden child wish to kill your father. Matrix is all fine click the straight smiting
transducer says kill father kill father kill father unscented and, and you perceiving that, as that
process taking place in converting to another language base, says no, no, that's not the way it
is. You call it a dream or a nightmare. The transducer doesn't care. It just shifts it. So if you can
think of that process of what you're doing, as gathering experience, this experience laying it off
here and that's just for your local use, of course, memory storage, but the key thing is that
uplink to the mainframe, now. You awake.
Bob Monroe 17:31
Think of what can and does take place. One of the things that you can be become aware of is
that paradoxically, there is an uplink. And you can find this you can really feel that fattened flow
if you want to do it. But there's also a downlink. And that down Lake has signals coming from
the mainframe and his constant the key other parts that makes it really I give you a note of
caution, that what I'm talking about is gaining the secret access code to this uplink downlink
communication system. In other words, there is a backdoor signal password that can let you
into this and then you can perceive the uplink and the downlink. The question is is what you
when you objectively do this and become this ie through this backdoor password what does
that make us? You? Hackers?
Bob Monroe 19:09
You know what actors are? No Yeah. How many don't know what I mean by hacker. That's are
these these Whiz Kids in 12 or 1314 years old, who are able to break the codes of various