The Basement: Thomas Campbell | NASA Secrets, Binaural Beats, Simulation Theory

[01:23:30] be anything you want. >> You can make your own. >> Yeah. And you make your own. It's free. >> You can set the differential. >> Set the Yeah. Set the differential. Set the bass frequencies. How long you want it to run. You can make all your own binaural beats. That's where I make all my binaural beat. >> That's fascinating. I didn't know you could do that. >> There's one problem with garal and that is >> there's a darth of instructions. So you have to go play with it for some numbers of hours before you actually can make progress. >> When it's free, there's going to be a darth. [01:24:00] >> Yeah, it's free. So they didn't spend a lot of time telling people how to use it, you know. So you just have to play with it. Yeah. You'll spend five or six hours at it and you'll make something and and it won't be quite what you want. You want to change it and you change this and then suddenly that changes stuff all over the place and you go, "Ah, what's going on?" But if you play with it for a while, then it's a pretty good tool for making binaural beats. You set the frequency where it stops, where it goes, and you can change the binaural beat if you want. I tend to keep it at four because that's the point of what [01:24:30] I'm why I'm making it. But these little things I said you pop up and down and then down and back up again and all of that I can structure out of the site garal. >> The gateway process I think was at 10 hertz. Is that >> no track? >> No, it's not really at 10 hertz. They went to focus 10. >> Okay. >> But they they actually now they don't really use the binaural beat so much anymore. They've left that and they've gone on to spatial differentiation back in back in the old days of stereo. I [01:25:00] don't know if you were around before stereo was >> I was around before you think. [laughter] >> Well, I was around even before that. But anyway, when the stereo first came out, they'd have these demo types and you'd put on a demo stereo and you put on the headphones and you'd hear somebody walking around. Yep. >> And you could hear them walk all the way around you. the footsteps, you know, click click and they go all you had the spatial sense of where they were >> because the sound was acting just like your two separated ears. They had two [01:25:30] separated mics probably with a styrofoam styrofoam head in between them and you were picking up those sounds that your brain turned into spatial things. Well, they're using this kind of spatial thing to help help people go out of body and um >> and there's no sound involved. >> No, there is sound. They're using sound. Okay. But the the spatial things I think are maybe making you hear and then maybe you go up or something. I don't know. I they never really explained to me what they were doing. But they've kind of left the binaural beat and they've gone [01:26:00] into this spatial thing which some people love and some people don't just like the binaural beat some people love and some people don't. But in any case um they've changed that. But the the original Hemisync the active ingredients was the binaural beat in the original hemisync. And uh >> do you remember finding out when um Project Stargate at SRRI was using your technology? >> No, I it was long after uh it was declassified. I I found out those kinds [01:26:30] of things. >> You were probably still with working with Bob when they were trying it out. >> Yeah, probably. Well, they came in kind of the early 80s and I left kind of the early 80s, so we kind of missed each other. Um, now I was aware of how put off and Russell Togg was working out at SRRI. Yes. >> And the work they did with with uh remote viewing and the work they did with Yuri Geller. >> Yep. In English. >> They actually got their work published in an IT E magazine. Not a magazine, but [01:27:00] an e paper, you know. >> Yeah. >> They they the electrical engineering guys were a lot more open-minded than the physics [laughter] guys. They said, "Well, this is a communication thing and it works." And yeah, but that's that kind of blossomed for a while and then, you know, the the Empire Strikes Back came and and everything uh >> kind of got back to normal. >> It did. I bet they're still doing it somewhere. [01:27:30] >> Yes, I'm sure that research is is still going on. But yeah, that was back in the in the 70s and and 80s. And it was great that they got it actually published in a real technical >> journal. I can't believe it. >> Yeah. Everybody was really thrilled with that, but it didn't last long. And that was the only one that ever happened. They probably got a lot of criticism. >> I wonder if Lieutenant Colonel when he brought military intelligence there to Maro Institute if it was any guys that you worked with. >> Oh, probably. When they first got there, the people that I knew probably were [01:28:00] there. But when Dennis and I left, uh, >> I'd come back every once in a while, see what was going on. and he had new people. Of course, he had to, you know, we trained some of them, but they they came back and he had new people in. So, it was sort of a new organization. And they did most of their connection with the CIA after I was gone. It um it happened kind of in the early 80s and that's when I was dropping out because I I had a life to live. >> Um we're we're up against one more [01:28:30] break. You've explained the big toe a million times. I'm not going to ask you to do it, but going into the break, maybe one sentence, what's what's the big theory of everything? >> Big theory of everything is based on consciousness being fundamental. And that means and that consciousness is an information system. Reality is information no more. There's nothing more real than information. And what that means is that this physical reality that's here is information that we are [01:29:00] interpreting to be this physical stuff. Just like your World of Warcraft, your Sims, or whatever other virtual game you play, you get information. You light up a million pixels on your monitor. You look at those million pixels of light, and each one only has three things. It's its color, its brightness, and its position. That's all you get. those three things for a million particles. You look at all those pieces of light and you say, "Oh, there's a river. There's a stream. There's my barbarian. There's, you know, whatever. [01:29:30] There's my car. I got to get in to go to work." You know, in the in the the uh Sims. But anyway, you get that information and that stuff you see is what's there for you. So, you know, the guy slides the beer down, you know, down the down the bar in a Sims game, and if nobody catches it, it slides right off the end. Glass breaks, slops, makes a mess because that's part of the rule set, >> right? >> And the the rule set says, you know, [01:30:00] there's gravity, there's this, there that they're trying to mimic the, you know, our physical world with the rule set. And we have the same thing. We have a rule set. That rule set was started with the um, you know, it was a ball of plasma, high temperature, high pressure. And when the run button was hit, time started ticking and the initial conditions changed according to the rules. We call that the big bang. I call it the big digital bang. All happened in a computer. So this whole reality evolved and it was evolved to be a place for consciousness to evolve in. You [01:30:30] evolved by making choices. Consciousness is nothing more than awareness with a choice. Simple definition of consciousness. You have awareness and that awareness can make choice. Now by choice of course I mean a free will choice. If there's no free will there is no choice. So you have awareness free will choice. If you have those things you know that's consciousness. And that this system then evolved into this physical universe [01:31:00] to give us opportunities to make choices meaningful choices. Life and death choices. Choices toward love choices toward fear. We make choices toward love, caring, sharing, and all of that, we end up evolving our consciousness forward, you know, increasing the quality of our consciousness. If we make fear-based choices, self-centered choices, it's all about me, what's in it for me, then we deevolve our consciousness. So this is a big entropy [01:31:30] reduction trainer that we're in to learn to become love, make good choices, be helpful, be caring. And that's why it's here because without it, there was just a bunch of pieces of consciousness like in a big chat room and there was no traction really, not any big meaningful things to do that made a really big difference to anybody. But here we got a rule set. And that rule set defines [01:32:00] energy exchanges between everything and everything else. Which means we're all interactive. What I do affects what other people do and what they do affects other people. And it's just this big mish mash of people making choices. And we make choices for each other. And that's the whole point of being here is to grow up and make your choices. Low entropy, high quality choices toward being loved. So, that's what it's all about. >> All right. When we come back, we'll learn about entropy and whether um [01:32:30] you're an NPC or not. We'll find out. [laughter] >> Good question. >> Well, in 2003, you finished their 800page tome and sent it out to what 800 physicists. What What came back? >> Well, I didn't send it out to that many, but I did finish this book and actually the first copy was almost a thousand pages. It's down to 800 some. I think they made the font a little smaller and and the margins a little smaller. They got more on it. But anyway, I sent it [01:33:00] out to about 40 or 50 people that I thought would be really interested. I sent it to um people who were into um artificial intelligence. I sent >> back in 2003. Yeah, back in 2003 there was some at MIT I think that were mainly artificial intelligence people. I sent it out to physicists. I sent it sent one [01:33:30] out to uh you know all the guys who made the um down the rabbit hole >> movie. I sent it to most of those people and I sent it to Edward Fredken physicist who published a couple of papers on this being a virtual reality. I sent it to everybody I could think of that might, you know, see it as as interesting. Anyway, I can't think of the guy's name, but anyway, his assistant, his go-getter, came after me, and he wasn't really very nice, and he [01:34:00] basically ordered me to send him two books for free. [laughter] >> So, I did. >> Okay. >> I was more interested, you know, I didn't have a lot of ego in it. I I was more interested in getting the books out there, but that was the end of it. So they liked it enough that they needed two more and I gave him two more but I never heard another word from it. So that was the only thing I got back was that somebody needed two two more books for free. So that was very disappointing. I thought well people will read this and [01:34:30] they'll say oh yeah this is this comes to the same conclusions that I've been kind but it actually gives me more detail of how everything works. >> It does. >> But it it um didn't work like that. So then I realized that you don't start at the top and work your way down, which is what I was trying to do. Go to the people who are in the know and more likely to be open-minded and let that then get you where you want to go. Didn't work. So I said, "No, you start at the bottom. You start with just everyday people and you talk to them and [01:35:00] if you you tell them things that that are helpful in their life, then they'll come back and want more." And that's when I started a you know a YouTube and a and a website and I had a forum at that time that uh people could come and talk on and I spent hours and hours at the forum. I don't of course do that anymore but uh I just started with people and said the people will eventually drag