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[03:30:00] behaved for the most part because that's that's what allows them to get the pass come here to do that. So So they're not really a problem. The walk the kind of the walk-in as you say, the the one that just manifests here, pulls Demi out of the well and disappears or gets the guy and tells the people where he is. And that happens a lot. But they need somebody here. They need a body here to do that, you know, to to make the noise. Noise takes a physical thing to make it. So they need somebody to do it.
[03:30:30] >> Tom, you're going to be 82. How important is it for your model to be proven while you're here? >> How important? Oh well that would be good because the sooner we all get to understand that the basis of our reality is love caring and sharing and we get over the control power force the sooner that happens the better it is for everybody so I would like it to be tomorrow you know I like it to be as soon as possible for that reason but
[03:31:00] whether that happens or not it depends on the choices that everybody makes you know we're coming to a we're coming to a point where we're going to make a decision. We humanity are going to make a decision and we're going to spin off toward fear or we're going to spin off toward love. And that decision point is coming real close. I'd say all the people that are alive today on the planet are going to be the ones going to make that choice. >> Yeah, I feel that. >> Yeah, they're all going to These are the
[03:31:30] people us we're going to have to make this choice. Maybe not me. I may not last that long but generally the people alive today will make this choice for humanity and humanity either will go backwards will deevolve for a while but evolution you know we'll eventually chug back up there and do it again or we will just evolve and take a big step forward that's a possibility now in my mind there's only one way that we can take a big step forward and that's if these ideas get into the mainstream
[03:32:00] >> and only one way for them to get into the mainstream and that is if the scientists lead that direction. If the science because the scientists are the high priests, high priest's job is to tell everybody else what to believe. Well, the scientists have that rule now. The the clerics had it. You know, five centuries ago, it was the clerics that told everybody what to believe. But now it's the scientists. And when the scientists see that there is a better physics, that there is a physics that solves all their issues, their
[03:32:30] paradoxes, when they get to that point, they'll have to say, "Yeah, this is a virtual reality that makes sense. It's a better physics." Now, the scientists won't want to go any further than that. They're not going to want to push philosophy or anything else. They'll quit right there. But everybody else, it'll be a seastate change for everyone else. And they'll say, "Oh, well, you know, how does that work?" You know, and then you'll have a food fight between my god's a better programmer than your gods, you know, and >> that'll have to happen. It'll work
[03:33:00] itself down. But eventually, I think the idea that this is a virtual reality will sink in and that love is is the low entropy solution and so on because it just makes sense. And the thing is that when you live that, your life is fun. Life is full of joy. It's full of adventure. It's full of fun. And like I say, everything you need falls at your feet just as you need it. You need money. Well, the money just
[03:33:30] arrives somehow just when you need it. Something happens to give you that break. If you're not cooperating with the system, if you're a high entropy person, then you don't get those benefits. Matter of fact, you do the opposite. Your negative intentions creates the probability of negative things happening to you rather than your positive intentions creates the raises the probability of positive things happening to you. And you just sit here and and are constantly you can't get there from here almost.
[03:34:00] You know that every time you get over this hurdle, uh it's it's joy for a week or two and there's another hurdle and you get over that one and there's another hurdle and your life is a struggle and it's it gets to where it's not much fun. You're on a treadmill and you want >> we all go through that. >> Yeah. So that's where you are when fear is dominating your choices. When love starts dominating your choices, you're happy, you're satisfied, you smile a lot, life is good. So if you had even 10% of the people who understood what
[03:34:30] the nature of our reality was, the other 90% in a couple of decades would join them because those people would be so much more productive and having so much more fun and these people would want to be like those and it would just slowly trickle over that way. And once everybody understands that this whole reality is computed, it's here for us to make choices to evolve toward love. That's our purpose. And if they
[03:35:00] understood that, they would realize that that control power force that's a dominant ethic now. And what that control power force that's, you know, I call that the the coin of the realm. Well, that coin now is money. Money gives you control, power, force. Yes. So everybody needs money because that's how you get co control power force and control power force is how you succeed in this. [clears throat] But that is the ethic of materialism. That's the ethic that goes with materialism. Control power force comes
[03:35:30] out of this ethic. There's just this physical world. It doesn't belong to anybody. So if I can grab a piece of it and make it mine, I can sell it to you. You know, and that's control. But I have to have control. I have to have power. And I have to be able to hold that so you don't take it away from me. So control, power, force is our ethic. That's what we live by. Because we tend to believe our culture and culture tells us that this is a physical reality. That's all there is. It's a materialist reality. We believe that. Now, we don't
[03:36:00] believe it intellectually. We believe it deep down inside because that's just what we're told. That's what the high priest said, you know. So with that in mind, they see things like, you know, banks that charge you fees that really cost the bank nothing. You know, there's people that, you know, that do things just to get money from your pocket to their pocket and there's no value added. You don't get anything because of you spend that money. It's because you have
[03:36:30] to. And there's lots of this control power force going on. That's called greed. And it's called manipulation. And it's called taking every advantage you can because you got to look out for number one. And you take every advantage you can. If and if that's because you get somebody else's stuff, well, they should have been paying attention. You know, it's their problem, not mine. So that's the ethic. And people see that and they say, well, that's just the natural way of the world. The natural way of the world is that the strong dominate, the weak are forced to
[03:37:00] do whatever they have to do to survive. And that is just the way it is. You know, the big animals eat the small animals and so on. That's the way it is. But it's not that way. It's that way in a materialist reality. This reality as it evolved with our rule set was a it's a physical quote reality. And yes, what are the what are the the criteria for evolution? Procreation and survival. Competition. The competition
[03:37:30] that wins goes on. The losers are go extinct. It's all about that. Well, that's the physical reality is based on that. And our here's our physical reality. And if you believe that that's just the nature of reality, then you accept that and you get in your spot and whether you're at the bottom, in the middle, or at the top, and you do your thing, and you try to you try to manipulate things to be the way you want, you try to make things come out the way you want, rather than saying,
[03:38:00] "Well, things will come out." And it's not important what what happens. What's really important is how you deal with it. That's what's important. So, we have we live in this space based on a materialist ethic. ethic of materialism. But the reality isn't really like that. The reality is that we're in a computed virtual reality and the ethic is caring, sharing, cooperation, love. That's what the reality is really like. And we're
[03:38:30] supposed to learn that and that's why we're here. So when the scientists accept, you know, my model or any model, it doesn't have to be mine. I don't have any ego in it. If they accept a model where they say yes, this is a virtual reality. Well, saying it's a virtual reality says it's computed. What's the purpose? Well, what's the purpose? It's easy to say what the purpose is. It's all all information systems that are evolve
[03:39:00] evolvable evolve toward lower entropy. you know, less random, you know, bits, bits that are meaning and significant. So, it's real simple to follow the logic down and see that that's our purpose is to lower our entropy and that means that means love. So, if we get to that where the scientists say that, then the high priests have spoken and the philosophers and everybody else are going to pick that up and run with it. And yes, there'll be some food fights about who's
[03:39:30] God's the better programmer and things like that, but that'll all settle out after a bit. And we'll get there. And I think we could do that within one decade. I think you're right. We could come out the other side being a kinder, gentler, better human race. And that's possible. And I think that the >> larger conscious system wants us to succeed because our success is its success. So, it's pushing all kinds and has been for the last hundred years. It's been pushing things to help us open
[03:40:00] our mind, see bigger pictures. And the UFO phenomena is one of those things that it's doing in a virtual reality. How do you how do you get a spaceship in a virtual reality? You just render it there. It's simple. How do you get an object to be going Mach 2 and then make a right angle turn and go Mach 2 the other way? It's easy. You just render it that way. So the system can do all those things. Why? Because we say, "Wow, look at that. That's impossible." Well, it happened. But it's impossible. But it
[03:40:30] happened. Now your mind has to open up and look for a bigger picture. >> It has to. >> Yeah. Your mind has to open up and look for a bigger picture. It does happen. Now what does that mean? And just getting people to open their minds, I think, is what most of the of the UFO and the thing is. I think the larger consciousness system is trying to wake us up, get us out of our mental ruts, get us to open our mind to bigger possibilities, and it does that in a lot of ways. If you ask a random person on
[03:41:00] the street, have you ever had anything paranormal? 80% will say yes. Well, they've had those things because of the licenses system have given them those things to open their minds up. You know, you have crop circles. 10 acres of crop land overnight in the dark with no moon suddenly have a pattern in it that it would take a team of a hundred surveyors six months to lay that out because it's not just straight lines. It's all these kind of nifty curves and they follow perfect mathematical lines. And now what