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[02:44:00] good, but you know, and Jane Roberts was good, you know, did Seth Speaks and other Seth books. She was good, but she didn't always get things right either because it's your interpretation of the data that you get. And Jane said a few things that were just wrong, but she was trying her best to do, you know, what he could. Bob tried his best to do it. But you have personalities and you have backgrounds and you have, you know,
[02:44:30] things the way you interpret the data and it just gets lost. And one of the things that that Jane said as as Seth was that there is no time. The present and the past and the future all happened together and you know it's all one thing. Well, that's because that people made some errors in interpreting relativity with with uh you know speed of light being constant and so on. And they had this these cones of light and everything was contained within the cone and and you know so the future was
[02:45:00] already there contained in the cone and and that's not the way it worked. That was just them making up a story to try to explain some idea that they thought they had. So but it was it was all the rage. Everybody was talking about how there was no future, there was no past, it was all and since everybody was talking about that and the physicists the high priests of Western culture because they said it then it was the truth. Yep. >> So now when she was getting this stuff from from uh you know from her from
[02:45:30] Seth, it had to come out that way because that's what the physicists had already said and she wasn't going to buck the physicists because they're the high priest and they tell everybody what's true. So she knew that had to be the answer because that's we had already discovered that they're all the same and whatever. So when she asked Seth about that, that's exactly what came out was exactly the the way she heard it and knew that it was. And so she repeated all of that, too. But that's not because that's what Seth told her. That's
[02:46:00] because that's what she interpreted it to be because she already knew the right answer. If you already know the right answer, then you tend to take things and turn it into the right answer that you already know. That's just the way people are. >> Sure. Once you believe something, it's hard to change. >> Yeah. So anyway, so you look at these books and mostly The Sesps was very good and very informal, but there were bits and pieces of it that weren't. Same with Bob's books. Mostly he did a very good job, but there are bits and pieces of it. It was his his own interpretation of
[02:46:30] the data he received. You know, he uh he had these circles of people who were stuck between moving on and whatever because they were religious and that religion kept them. That's not like that. That's not the way it is. But that was his idea. Religious people are stuck in their beliefs. It's not about the bigger reality or understanding. They're just stuck in beliefs. Well, in that case, they're not going to go on very far because they're stuck in their beliefs. So, he imagined this circle of
[02:47:00] people who were stuck in their beliefs. And it for him, it turned into geometry of a big circle around the earth. And so, that was just his best interpretation with things that he knew. and he felt, you know, it wasn't that that's actually the way it is. It's not the way it is. It's not like that. It's a virtual reality and you don't have circles of people who are stuck and it's here for people to grow and the system tries to help you grow because if you succeed, it succeeds. So, you can get a
[02:47:30] lot of help. You know, that's what synchronicities are all about. >> The system trying to help you. And and you find that if you live this this life trying to be love and trying to help and so on, everything you really need falls at your feet just as you really need it. And you find your whole life is like that. It's not this happens to you once, but this happens to you every day that oh, I'm in this jam. I don't know how I'm going to get out of this jam. I don't know. But whatever you need, there it is. Just in time.
[02:48:00] >> Just as you need it. So when you say love, you're not talking about Hallmark greeting card. >> No, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about lowering entropy and I put it into love and fear. >> Now, when you say entropy, do you mean like thermodynamics and information theory? >> I mean like thermodynamics. It's the same kind of entropy, but I'm using it in a little different way. Entropy is is a measure of of disorder. >> Okay? Lower entropy, more order. >> All right? When you have a social system
[02:48:30] and well let's let's go back a little bit further back. If you have an information system and all the bits are random that's as high as entropy as it can get. Entropy belongs to a system. Okay. So that's as high as entry. Everything's random. Y >> now if you order some of those bits [snorts] what you've done is you've created order here. Now that order can symbolize something. Oh that can be the number six or whatever. Well, now that ordering lowers the entropy. There's no
[02:49:00] there's there's order there now. And it has meaning. So the significance and the meaning of it is also makes it more makes it lower entropy. If it's just the fact that you have two blocks next to each other, all right, that's an order. But if it doesn't have meaning or significance, it's a very little bit of entropy that's loaded. But if that actually has meaning to you and significance to you then that lowers entropy that's information >> and that lowers it in the entire system >> that lower that lowers you know that's
[02:49:30] part of the whole system. Okay. So >> and is order the attractor does >> the system is the consciousness system. It's an information system. It lowers its entropy by creating more order but not just order for order's sake but meaningful order significant order. So that's what it does. Now it got to a point where it was just one monolithic thing. And it realized that it was limited to just the ideas it had. So it
[02:50:00] took a piece of itself, smaller, less capable, but all the same all the same stuff, a piece of consciousness, and set over here to let it make its own choices. It has free will. And now there's a chance of an argument. there's a chance of discussing different different viewpoints. So that's what we are. We're these individuated units of consciousness, pieces of the larger system and we are here to make choices. But now we're just in a big chat room. And the first
[02:50:30] virtual reality was communication protocols. How could we talk to each other? Well, we get communication. And if you're part of this thing, then you get communication protocols. That's your virtual reality. And we can all talk. Well, that's good. But we weren't progressing very much as far as lowering entropy. We needed more meaningful, more substantial choices to make. So let's make another virtual reality. And that's the ball of plasma and whatever. And it evolves. >> Oh, we try it again. >> Yeah. And we make a another virtual
[02:51:00] reality. >> We change the rules a little bit. >> Yeah. We have a whole new rule set. >> Speed of light, Avagadro's constant moment, >> all those things. Whole new rule set. Yeah. Gravity, all that. So here's the here's the rule set and here are the initial conditions. Punch the run button. Initial conditions change according to the rules. >> Okay, big digital bang. So that then evolves on its own until here we are dogs and cats and humans and we're all here. We've all evolved to this reality and we've evolved according to the rule
[02:51:30] set. >> Did we figure it out or we don't know yet? >> Well, what scientists try to do is find out what the rules are. Well, gravity. That's one of that's one of the rules, you know, and we have lots of rules here. That's physics. >> Mhm. >> Chemistry, biology, that's the rules. So, we can we've evolved within this rule set. And we can do things just that the rule set does. I flap my arms like this, I can't fly, right? >> Because I can't flap them fast enough and my hands aren't wide enough to actually give me enough lift to get my
[02:52:00] body off the ground. It doesn't work. The rule set doesn't support that. So, I can't do that. And I can only do what the rule set supports because I'm a creature that has evolved within this rule set. Okay. But now piece of consciousness, my individating unit of consciousness can make all the choices for this human avatar. Just like you make all the choices for your barbarian or your elf or your Sims character. You make all the choices whether they get up, whether they walk, whether they get a beer, whether they go get in their car and go
[02:52:30] to work. You make all those choices. So I'm an individual. unit individuated unit of conscious making choices with this avatar and I learn by doing that because I make good choices I make bad choices and if I make bad choices I de evolve and now I've got to start from a little deeper hole I've made for myself to evolve toward now once you have all these individual units of consciousness you have a social system now it's not just a
[02:53:00] monolithic conscious social system how Social systems lower their average entropy? Well, by cooperating. Sure. >> By caring. By working together, by finding common purpose and common cause, by caring about each other, that optimizes whatever resources they've got, whatever their limitations are, whatever their rules are, they can optimize that by working together. On the fear side, it's just the opposite. When you're
[02:53:30] afraid, well, you're afraid everybody. I got this and I don't want anybody to take it. So, I have to guard it. I have to be strong. I have to have power. And oh, two people ganged up against me. Well, I'm going to find six people and I'm going to go and pretty soon you've you've got gangs and then you got countries and then you got all of this and basically that's the fear side. So, I break it into love and fear. So what we're supposed to do is become love, which means in a social system, care
[02:54:00] about each other, work with each other, cooperate. And the fear side, which means it's all about me. What's good for me? Oh, me and my friends, we're going to take stuff away from those people because they're weaker. They have resources that we'd like to have, so we'll just take those. They can't do anything about it. That's the fear side. It's all about individuals. It's power, hierarchy, control, power, force. That's the whole thing over here. spirits, how can I help? It's a it's a very cooperative push. So, that is the game
[02:54:30] we're in. We get thrown in this game where everybody's interacting with everybody else. The guys that are in control, power, force, they create problems for us to deal with. Yeah. >> We create solutions for them if they want to take it. >> Yes. But everybody's on their own path growing up in the way they they as best they can and they're all at different levels of evolution of their consciousness and you can't be angry with any. It's
[02:55:00] like being angry with a child for being a child. Like stop crying, you know, act like an adult. Well, they're only three years old. You know, that's stupid. You don't do that. You let them go. They're children. And you have to see the same thing. This world's full of people. They're all at different levels. They're all basically doing the best they can with what they came in with. Now came in with means is you level up some in by doing low entropy choices. Next time you get in, you start at that level. >> You do.