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[02:32:00] is what we call physics, biology, chemistry. Those are the rules. That's what scientists do. They figure out what the rules are. And to the level at which this is rendered, then you interact with it and you have choices. But because of this being a multiplayer game, the choices you make affect others just like they do in World of Warcraft. If you decide to run away and let your buddies fight the fight, you know, the demon, well, that's a choice. And now they have to deal with that. They got one less person, you know, to to help them fight
[02:32:30] that that demon. So the choices you make affect others. If you're not very good about dueling with demons, then you're not that big a help. So if you're a level 40 or a level whatever they are now, you know, then you're you're very welcome on their mission. But if you're only a level three and you can stay home because you're really not going to help us very much anyway. >> That's Leroy Jenkins for everybody. >> Yeah. So that's that's the game. This is a virtual reality game. So, what happens
[02:33:00] um when my avatar dies? >> When your avatar dies, the consciousness doesn't die. It's just a piece of consciousness playing that avatar. When your barbarian dies, you don't die. In World of Warcraft, I think you have to run back to the graveyard and get all your, you know, get your stuff. >> Get your stuff, you know, or something. But, of course, if the if that was the end, you know, if if you got to play once and your character dies, you're out of the game. >> Well, nobody would play the game. That wouldn't be much fun. No. >> And you wouldn't learn. I mean, the
[02:33:30] whole thing in World of Warcraft, you have to learn. You learn how to use your tools. You learn how to use your spells. You learn how to use your equipment. You you you know, you get smarter and more capable as you go. Well, that's like that here. And you can't do that in one turn. So, you have multiple turns. They call that reincarnation. I call it in my book uh an experience packet. So you get experience back here because what you're trying to do is make better choices, lower the entropy of your consciousness,
[02:34:00] which lowers the entropy of the whole system's consciousness because you're part of the system. So anyway, that's the name of the game. And you can't do that in one turn. You have to do multiple things. So what happens is that when you die, that avatar is gone. Now it's dead flesh. And you find yourself aware somewhere else. >> Am I still my individual self? >> You're still your individual self. But your memory of what you just
[02:34:30] experienced, your memory of that life that you just exited starts to fade. Just like dreams fade. You know, you wake up with a dream and the instant you wake up, it's really clear. >> A minute later, it's a little fuzzier. 10 minutes later, you barely remember the strong points. And after that you really don't remember the dream other than that you had it and that it was nice or something. So that's the same way once you die you start forgetting
[02:35:00] all the stuff that you were just involved in in that past life like a dream. >> Where does that consciousness go? >> Consciousness just exists now. You're not in this virtual. You're not getting a data stream anymore. >> Right? >> Okay. So there is no places within you know in this physical world this we think there's places you know there's Chicago and that's different than you know Las Vegas and they're different places and if you go to Chicago you can go to their planetarium and look at because they have one there and if you go here you know you can go to Las Vegas
[02:35:30] but these places are information there are no places in consciousness there's just a simulation of places Right? >> That's all just a simulation place. So where do they go isn't even a good question. There is no place to go. They're just suddenly now an awareness that is not getting a data stream other than I'm here. Where am I? Uh and some people
[02:36:00] will see a tunnel because a tunnel then allows you to move. You can't move unless you see >> space. Unless you see something going by you on the other side, you're not moving. >> You see? So that's why you have tunnel. The tunnel is there to give you the sense that you're making progress and you're moving toward the light, say, or towards something else or toward some other beings. And the whole process is is one that just gets you to
[02:36:30] to let go. Okay, the dream is fading. You had a lot of worries. She left three kids behind and and you have all this stuff going on, but that just starts to fade and you relax, but it takes a little time. And if you were really um obsessed with something, that something may hang on there longer because you were obsessed with it. And that may take you a little longer then to process through. But if you're not really obsessed, then it all falls away
[02:37:00] like a dream. And then you kind of see, well, what's going what's that over there? and somebody's going like this, you know, and you move toward that with an intention. And then you get the the tunnel effect because you need to see the stuff going backwards as you move forwards. Otherwise, you don't feel like you're going anywhere. And uh so you get there and there's somebody there that's very friendly. You know, I make a joke. I say it's like a Walmart greeter. You know, you walk into Walmart and somebody says, "Hi, welcome to Walmart." You
[02:37:30] know, come on in. And that's about all they say, you know, but they just welcome people. You're a Walmart greeter. >> Where's Where's Bob now? >> Where's Bob? I kind of went and see him a couple of times right after he died. Yeah. But I didn't really, >> you know, Bob's doing whatever Bob does. >> Now, Bob was a >> was a uh another plant. He was here to do what he did. that out of body happened to him because he was supposed
[02:38:00] to write the book and a 100red million people were supposed to read the book and have their minds open to a bigger reality. That's what he was all about. That's why he had to write it even though as as a business executive that wasn't necessarily a clever thing to do. He knew that he needed to do that. So he kept a diary. His books is basically the diary he kept on what what happened to him. So I looked at his once I would been around for a while I was able to to see uh auras and do all those kinds of things all the paranormal things you
[02:38:30] know we learned to do and we learned to do them precisely. So I looked at Bob one day and looked at his or he was a very developed human being and this was what he was here to do. No question. >> He was going to introduce that to all these people and that was his thing. That's what he did. He did a good job of it. Now all the things he said in his books were his experiences just like an out of body. He said you know I go out of body that's my experience and he didn't always you know it's your interpretation of the data that becomes
[02:39:00] your reality. He didn't always interpret things correctly. He mostly did. He told you what he saw very well. You know he was good about that >> and he remembered well. But sometimes he got information and he didn't get it right because his own background, his own kind of history and the way he put things together in his mind put it together in a way that wasn't what was intended. That's what happened with this big luch thing. I don't know if you know
[02:39:30] about that, but Bob when he had that out of body the next day he came down and says, "I want to share something with you. I just had this out of body yesterday and it's very disturbing." He was very disturbed by it. And he said, "I found out that we humans are are u what did he say? We create a thing called luch. And when we create it, there's other beings that are kind of above us in this
[02:40:00] hierarchy that need luch. So we're like farm animals. We're here in this reality creating luch. And we're created here to do that. And it's really we're being farmed. You know, we're like cattle and they're taking the luch that we create and that's what they need. They need this luch. So he got that. But that was his own interpretation. What he had asked is what's the bigger picture? What's what's going on here in the bigger picture? And that's what he got.
[02:40:30] He came from a farm family in the Midwest. That's the way he interpreted. What they were trying to tell him is that there is a bigger picture, a larger consciousness system. And as we evolve and as we grow up and make our choices, it grows up too. So we're part of its evolution. So we're growing. And as we create love, not loose. As we create love and caring, the whole system grows. And that's what this was all about. this was
[02:41:00] made to help us, you know, evolve ourselves and evolve the whole system. So, they're trying to tell him the big picture [clears throat] and he turned that into we were here doing the things we did because it served this other thing. Well, yes, it serves the larger conscious system. It serves us too. But in his farm boy mentality, we were cattle and these were the the other people in the system and we were, you know, we were just being we
[02:41:30] were the herd of cattle who were making loose for those people. He missed he missed the point and he did it differently. And uh at the time he told me he was kind of upset. He he he just found out that he was a cow and a cattle and we were creating loose for some other race of people. What did you tell him about that? >> Well, he said after he told it to me, he says, "And what do you think about that?" And I was probably 30, maybe early 30s, late 20s. And I
[02:42:00] said, "That's okay with me." I said, "I don't see the problem. I don't see as a really big problem." He says, "You don't. You're you're a livestock and you're feeding this other bunch of people with with the things you do, with the emotions you have." He said emotions, you know, emotions and feelings. Well, it's emotions. If your emotions are anger or your emotions are love, you know, that's that feeds it. And I said, 'Well, there's there's nothing I can do about that. And if there's nothing I can do about that, if
[02:42:30] that's the way it is, then, you know, I'm not going to worry over things that I have no control over. If that's it, that's it. I'll go about doing my life and living it the best way I can, and if somebody else benefits from that, you know, it's not a problem. But Bob was really upset >> and he was bothered by it and he put it in his book with the luch and so on. And now >> you see all over the place, Bob was loose, there's evil beings waiting for you. Don't go to the light and this is the prison planet and you get all this
[02:43:00] stuff, all this fear junk. >> A lot of sci-fi has spun off of his that idea. >> Yeah. So that's that, you know, when you have fearful people, they see and hear fearful things. It's just that's the nature [snorts] of the way people are. So if you're fearful, >> Bob was fearful. >> He was not generally fearful. He just misinterpreted that because he was a farm boy. And when he got the there's others up there that are benefiting from the things we do down here, he could see
[02:43:30] that the farmer and the cattle, you know, and that was it. There is something else up there. It's the larger kind of systems up there. It's evolving because we're part of it. As we evolve, it evolves because we're pieces of it. That's was too abstract. And he didn't get that abstraction. Instead, he turned it into a farm metaphor rather than that abstraction. And that's what's been feeding the prison planet and never go to the light and all the rest of that stuff ever since has been feeding off of Bob's story about the luch. So Bob was