Markdown lines 38–89 · Part 1 of 22
[00:00:00] Today we're talking with Tom Campbell. By day he was a physicist, missile defense, then NASA. At night he left his body. >> New missile defense and NASA. Oh, so he spent his days building the cover up and his nights escaping it. You got to respect the irony. >> In the 1970s, he helped run Bob Monroe's lab devoted to out-of- body experiences. [music] And he came out of it convinced this reality is a simulation built to evolve consciousness. He wrote it down in 2003. an 800page trilogy called My Big to Toe.
[00:00:30] He was saying we live in a virtual reality before Nick Boston, before Elon Musk, before [music] anyone. Then he waited for the world to catch up and it finally has. Today we get into the Monroe Institute, the CIA's interest, and how his theory rewrites quantum physics. [music] And he told me he taught an AI to remote view. Seriously, he hid an object in a box and taught an Amazon Alexa to remote view. and she it was able to see it.
[00:01:00] This one rewired how I think about reality. And after our talk, I'll come back and break it down for you. Let's go down to the basement. Thomas Campbell, welcome to the basement. >> Thank you, AJ. It's my pleasure to be here. >> As is thrilled to have you here. I'm a huge fan. I'm a huge fan. I want to start at the beginning. I want to talk about that little boy in the back seat
[00:01:30] with his sister using his mind to change red lights to green. Did Did you think that was working? >> It did work. >> It did. >> Yeah. Absolutely it did work. I often would not get all the way through town without a red light, but I could get like 80% of the lights to turn green. >> You could? >> Yeah. Yeah. I had uh various ways of doing that, you know. I I came into the world being a very rightrained, intuitive
[00:02:00] um kind of a person and I knew that I had to be the opposite. I was going to have to develop that leftrain side. I knew that was a task and it wasn't easy, but with a lot of effort I did do that. But yes, I would uh I had several things I did in the backseat of the car with my sister besides make green lights appear. Like what >> I when we go on long trips, you know how children are, you you're about 15 minutes into a 4-hour trip and they say, "Are we here yet? Are we there yet?" You know, and u I didn't do that. I had a
[00:02:30] little chant that I had made up in my mind and I would just sit down and this little chant I barely audible, you know, I was just saying it in my mind mostly and within a few minutes I was gone. >> What was the chant? It was I actually have it in my book. It was um see I don't know if I can try to remember it but it was just a simple set of syllables. It was something like lumbar
[00:03:00] lumbar though maybe something was changed the syllable and went on but I haven't done it for many years and uh but it was just this chant and you chant it over and over again and in minutes I was gone. >> So you discovered the mant the mantra before? >> Yeah. So as a kid >> I didn't know it was called a mantra or anything. It was just a little sounds I made in my head and they would uh first
[00:03:30] relax me and then I would just disappear. So I'd do that and whenever the car stopped, I'd kind of wake up and look around if it was a gas station or something. I'd go pee or whatever you have to do when you're a kid and I'd go back in and do the same thing. And it annoyed my sister tremendously because she was two years older than me. But I was the only one she had to talk to or to play with, you know, if you were coloring books or whatever two kids do in the back seat, you know, to entertain each other on a long trip. But I would
[00:04:00] just drop out and when we got to where we were going, I'd come too. >> She would try to talk to you and you'd say, "Shush, I'm dealing with >> No, I just I didn't hear her. >> You didn't? >> No, I was gone. I just I just was out." Didn't you have an out-of- body experience when you were a kid? >> I did have out-of- body experiences when I was a kid. I had when I was maybe six, seven years old. I had an entity, actually a couple of entities come to me just as I was falling asleep and ask me,
[00:04:30] "Do you, you know, would you like to," and they didn't say go out of body? That wasn't a term then. Bob Monroe really created that that term, but you know, like to have an adventure or like to do something fun. And of course, I said yes. And pop, I was out of body and I could float and I was out of the bed. And they said, "Well, go ahead, move around." And I did. I had an intention. And I found out later intention was what
[00:05:00] was the control was. >> Yes. >> And I just started to slide. And I slide right up through a window. And it was like, ah. But I slid right on out through the window and out in the yard. And then I kind of went down close to the ground and then went right toward a neighbors, but there was this big thick hedge between me and the neighbors. And this was going to be a crash. So I kind of tucked in and ah cuz I had no control over the motion. >> Oh, you didn't?
[00:05:30] >> No, I wasn't control. I didn't know I was controlling it. My intention was in controlling it. And these beings were probably helping a little cuz I didn't know what I was doing. >> Who do you think those beings were? >> Well, I have been in touch with them ever since then. So, they were beings who were going to help me learn not only out of body, but how to handle myself and how to get around in the non-physical in the consciousness world. So what happened was after those couple
[00:06:00] of adventures sliding around then well two things happened but one I would go with them and the in very kind of strange thing would happen when I was in this out of body state I was maybe 25 years old I was an adult young adult and then when I would go back I would transfer from that back into six or seven year old and that
[00:06:30] amazed me enough that I do the transition very slowly just to feel that shrinking process you know and then I'm back to say 7 years old again but anyway what they were doing was I had been picked out to be given some coursework on how to get around in consciousness in the non-physical so I would every night I would just you know the little trips outside and through the bushes stopped.
[00:07:00] Every night I'd close my eyes and I would uh feel a little vibration and poof, I was out. And there they were. And then they would give me things to do, lessons to learn, things to practice. And it was like in school. It was a training course. >> How did you know it wasn't a dream? At first, >> I probably didn't. But they did something a dream had never done. They were telling me, you know, you're out of body. And then after I'd been out of body that way maybe eight or 10 times, I
[00:07:30] said, "I want you to tell me how to do that myself cuz they would come and do it to me. Get me out of body." And I said, "I want to be able to do it myself." And they said, "No, you won't like it. We don't want you to have that control. >> You won't like it." >> Yeah. They said, "You won't like it." >> There's a reason people are losing faith [music] in the system. The national debt just crossed $39 trillion. They're printing another trillion every few weeks and inflation isn't going anywhere. It's just being rebranded as
[00:08:00] normal. The stock market clocked in about 27% in the same window. And this isn't [music] slowing down. Bank of America sees silver reaching $39 an ounce with top banks [music] projecting gold at $6,300. And what most people haven't been told is you don't have to sit on the sidelines. You can convert your existing IRA or 401k directly into physical gold and silver legally with no taxes and no penalties. Golden Crest Metals walks you through every step.
[00:08:30] Boutique firm, honest pricing, [music] no call centers, just real people who know what they're talking about. Free portfolio [music] review, free guide, no strings attached. Golden Crest is straight with you from day one. Honest pricing, no runaround, no hard sell. That's why they've earned so much trust. They treat you with respect and take a real interest in giving you peace of mind. Go to golden crestmetals.com/wyfiles or call 8889499172. [music] That's golden metals.com/wyfiles or call 888949172
[00:09:00] for your 100% [music] free invocate. >> I said I want to do it anyway. I want to be able to do this. So eventually they gave in and they said okay. And what they did was, you know, that pulsation state that you get into just before you go out of body. >> I'm a lucid dreamer. The vibration is >> Yeah, that Yeah, that vibration state. Well, they did that, but it was so strong and got so powerful that it frightened me. And they did that on
[00:09:30] purpose because they didn't want me to be a freelance out of body. They wanted to have control. So, they did that on purpose and I said, "Ah, stop." They said, "See, we told you you wouldn't like it." So anyway, I kept playing with it though and I kept doing it and eventually I learned that that wasn't necessary to go through that wild thing. It's that, you know, I I could ride it and once I just kind [snorts] of gave up to it and didn't try to fight it, then it would, you know, mellow out and I,
[00:10:00] you know, went right through and I could get out of body on my own. Did you have to be in that pre-sleep state, that hypnogogic state where you have to force your way through sleep paralysis? >> No, >> you could do it anywhere. >> Just any Yeah. Well, it always happened to me when I went to bed. Sure. >> So, I'd go to bed, but I'd lie down and there wouldn't be It wasn't like a fiveminute process. It was like a 5-second process. >> Wow. >> I'd lie down, close my eyes, and I was gone. And then they would teach me things how to how to get around that I
[00:10:30] could manifest things with my mind in that state that I could do this and I could do that. And eventually and all this is in the first most of this is in the uh first what section of my books where I talk about you know my my uh experiences and time with Monroe and so on. Anyway uh I got to where I I expected it. I mean, every night this just was my life. And I got to a point where I felt like I had
[00:11:00] learned. I I had done well. I graduated and somebody came to do two things. One, they did the uh condundalini thing. Two workers came and they were pouring this energy into me. But by then, I had already been trained a lot. So I >> Did you see these entities? >> Yeah, I could see them. What do they look like? I see them very clear. Well, they were they were workers. They were two guys >> humanlooking.
[00:11:30] >> Yeah, human looking, but a little different. Little smaller. >> I see. >> You know, a little smaller. Not just humans, but humanoid like arms, head, you know, legs sort of thing. So I connected with the mind of mind and they were pouring this stuff in me and an interesting thing happened. First they said they didn't know who I was. They just been given the task and they said it's just a little kid. This is just a little kid. He doesn't have the what we need. Oh, that's all
[00:12:00] right. He said we'll go get something else. So they got some other kind of energy. And this is what they poured in in mind to mine. I told them a little bit more. Because they said now be careful. We don't want to do too much. That's not good. And I say, "Yes, you do a little bit more." Cuz I was a kid and that's what kids do. >> Never afraid. >> Never afraid. And anyway, so they did and they overdosed me, but they got it back under control and it was fine. And after that, they shut the door.