2000 Professional Seminar: Shamanism and Hemi-Sync® in the Medical Encounter (Cecile A. Carson)

2000 Professional Seminar: Shamanism and Hemi-Sync® in the Medical Encounter (Cecile A. Carson) (Transcript) NOTE: This is a raw transcript – it is exactly as created by otter.ai. 00:02 To the professional seminar, why don't you come to the professional seminar, and the summer diets never quite worked for her. And fortunately for her, and for us this time of year does work. Dr. Carson works in a conventional medical setting. But she has the courage, as many of you do in your areas to combine such techniques as Hemi sync, and also shamanic practices with her work. And she does a lot of work with people with life threatening diseases, especially HIV and AIDS. And I will say that, I'm especially happy to have her here to share this today, late in 19, was in 1999, she came for a prep session in the lab, and 1998 and early 1999, were some challenging times for me and I was looking for any technique I could find to help myself regain center, and to move forward. And she generously agreed to do a soul retrieval for me. And we did it in the lab isolation booth. That was an outstanding and very valuable experience. And I was impressed by her common sense and her compassion. And I'm just greatly pleased that she's here to share her work with us today, Dr. Cecile Carson. 01:23 Thank you, I really appreciate the introduction. It's a real privilege to be here. And before I get started, I wanted to say that most of the audiences that I've started introducing this material to are, are nowhere near the level that this audience is, a lot of them have not had an in the body experience for the first time in their lives. And so I have to do a little bit of adjusting as I began to share the share what I have about my experiences in integrating this work. I hope you'll bear with me and I'm also looking forward to your comments and questions. At the end of the presentation, I like to think of this is, for me, it's sort of where the consciousness rubber hits the medical encounter road. And it's been a long journey. I know the previous speakers this morning have, have shared something of their own personal journey. And I'd like to do a little bit of that. I felt pretty much clueless in my life. I was one of those kids probably like many of you who hung around up in trees reading books and hunkered down under the under the portrait broken section of our porch that was on stilts in southern Louisiana. And I used to crawl down there. And so I would be either down under the house or up in the trees, or I would be playing this game of instead, I had a red wagon. But instead of pulling it around, I would climb in it and I would pull like Cajuns do where I grew up, I would pull it like a pea rug. And I would imagine that I was in the swamps, which were, you know, 10 miles away, pulling away and I would I would go to these platforms, the front steps, the back steps, another section, the washhouse behind the house, and I would go to all these places with my red wagon. And I had some kind of something with me and I was helping the sick. But I've never played doctor and I never played nurse. And so it's been a it's been a mysterious, wonderful kind of transformation to begin to uncover what was in that bag that I was carrying around in my games as a small child. Let's see I have a clicker here. What I'll be talking about today is a little bit of my experiences. And really some of the parallels that I've discovered in in my 13 years as in training as a shamanic practitioner, with Michael Horner in the foundation for shamanic studies, and some other people and how my introduction to the Hemi sync technology in 1996 How that began to come together for me and some of the parallels that I saw in it. When I was finishing my medical residency in Internal Medicine before I went to Rochester, New York to study mind body medicine. I wanted to share with you that I had this dream and live stream where these two parallel rainbows that we're running across this very large, long white beach and they were parallel. But as they approach the water's edge, they started to converge as they went under the water. And something you needed had not done any dream analysis or whatever I was a clueless resident. Something you need really understood it as A promise that that that somehow there was going to be a coming together of these tracks of the traditional Western medical training that I had. And the understanding I was coming to that I knew a lot about medical technology, but I didn't know diddly squat about healing. And so it's what you're seeing is seeds along the way, on that long beach with the parallel rainbows. I'd like to start with a couple of cases, physicians love cases, you know, let me just give you a couple about how my two years started colliding, how those rainbows began to work themselves out. In the first story of a patient I'd like to tell you about it was three o'clock in the morning and I was awakened suddenly, from deep sleep by an image of my patient and drifting out into the cosmos. The next, inexplicably, I went downstairs, I went down to my study, and I sat in meditation for just a few minutes, and I found myself saying, over and over again and come back, come on back, come on back. And I had no great idea about what I was doing. I just felt very compelled to do that. And after a few minutes, it felt like enough. And I went back upstairs and went back to bed and back to sleep. I found out a week later, from this person who was very angry when she came in to see me that she had once again tried to kill herself, this time with an amount of medication that she had calculated to be twice the minimal lethal dose. She had found out the dose she needed to kill herself from the toxicology textbook had doubled it. She was shocked to find herself alive the following morning. And she reported taking the pills around 11pm the night that I had been awakened. If you think about taking the pills around 11, and around 3am, probably the the stuff she took would be having its maximal effect. Around that time. She had a diagnosis of borderline personality disorder and had been quite unstable, and had been working with both her psychiatrist and with me as her internist. I had seen her two weeks previously, and there had been no inkling at that time that she was planning this, nor any contact between us by phone or message in the previous two weeks before this event. In the second case I'm going to share with you about is about B who's a physician in her mid 60s When he was fairly open to consciousness, and he's been working on her own path for a while, and she asked me for if I would help her with a soul retrieval to resolve her chronic depression. She she had been on maintenance medication for many years, and to help her improve her breathing. She has asthma and uses medications as needed for flare ups. I went through the soul retrieval process with her. And as the sound of a steady drumming beat came through an audio tape player I relaxed deeply and moved into it took me down a long dark tunnel. And then I found a little girl sitting on the floor with one small candle. She was somewhere between three and five and had dark hair and looked quite somber. Her soul essence was off growing nearby, softly glowing and it was in a crate with wide open slats. The soul essence agreed to come back with me as long as the crate remained around it for D to unwrap later. I was then taken to another place where a rabbit kept junk jumping back and forth in front of me sort of like in your face sort of rabbit can't miss it. It was small, energetic and joyful. And it lay on the crate in a very protected gesture. And it wanted to return with the while return to be to help support the support the returning soul Park I bought both the rabbit and the acid the soul essence back and I blew them into her heart and her the crown of her head as the soul retrieval process required that I had been trained to do. When I told you the story of my journey, she started laughing and crying. And she said the crate is my ribs for breathing. So she was in immediately associating to her asthma. And then she told me I had no idea of this. She then told me that she had been beaten in nursery school between the ages of three to five for not speaking German. Her family had emigrated from Russia when she was at that age. And she then described a good family life after five. She also told me that in her in her present day life that she had a bunny in her garden that had stayed only a few feet feet from her this year, she worked in the garden, she usually had bunnies, but there's this one particular one that really stayed in was striking to her, and it stayed that close. 10:44 I did this two years ago, I spoke with her recently, and in between, I followed up with her about every six months, and she's had no recurrent bouts of depression. She's remained on the same medication that she'd been on for depression. But she would always have breakthrough episodes and she's not broken through hasn't changed her meds. And she describes actually a joyful two years, she remains on the same amount, while already so that same amount of medication. In terms of her asthma, it's been well controlled on only half the medication that she required before. So she's had fewer flare ups, it's taken less medication to turn them around. She continues to have much more energy and creativity and all of these she reported as related in time to when she received her soul retrieval, when she could not correlate it to any other significant events in her life. 11:43 And this balcony, deep the lights right now and what she turned off, I want you to see this this is a drawing she made of her soul retrieval. 11:58 And it for me, it's It's so touching to me to see that kind of, of energy and vibrancy that just kidding. So do not lose all it was all there. But it needed a way to get reconnected to her. So that's her. That's her journey of her experience of the soul retrieval. Okay, Mark, thanks. Thanks 12:43 Mary doll Dossey isn't, is a internist who hated the office of of alternative medicine at National Institute of Health when it first got started. And many of you might be familiar with his books, space time in medicine, reinventing medicine really talks about, I think, a very helpful way. For those of us who give medical care and receive it on a regular basis, he talks about the three years of medicine and I think this really dovetails nicely in our thinking about consciousness. That you're one medicine is more the empiric. Here's what you can measure, here's how you do it. I can I can apply this antibiotic and cure this pneumonia, etc. And it was obviously a profound step forward in the 1940s when penicillin was invented, and then the the anti tuberculous, drugs and so forth. This was a very important year in terms of people's health. 13:52 Health care. 13:55 And again, here's a, here's a chest X ray. And so you can measure the size of chest cavity, the heart shadow, you can look at nodules, you can get very precise, and feel very confident that you've got some certainty around what's sitting in somebody's chest. And physicians, I guess clinicians like anybody else likes to deal with cert with certainty. And to the degree that we start to work in healthcare that has less certainty, I think we get more uneasy and more reluctant and more feeling like we might be moving on shifting sands. And I guess in the 50s and 60s, we moved into an era to medicine, which was the mind body medicine. And that's actually what I went to Rochester New York to study and got very discouraged because I felt there was something important missing and easier to medicine. dasi says that it's it's scientifically shown that emotions and attitudes and perceptions affect the physical body. And that's when the whole idea of stress reduction and so forth, came up with the mind and body do relate. And