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the concept of, you know, a plant consciousness or an animal consciousness or your own
children. At some point in time, there are things that they just don't grasp. My dog can't grasp
the idea of reflection in a mirror. You know, that Faye and I got her bed in the bedroom and the
dog of a man on face side and look in the mirror in the closet. And he's making sure that dog in
the mirror doesn't get in the room, you cannot deal with a concept of a reflection. I assume
therefore, there are things that we as humans don't deal with very well we just can't get our
heads around. You can be much nicer if we think that you know I'm at the top of the food chain
I'm the smartest guy on the planet and this that no thing but I have reason to believe that that's
not the case.
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In this glimpse was a crystal clear band of sparkling scintillating Earth. So when asked to
describe the human experience, all this guy got was a this beautiful vision of the globe. You
think about what Marilyn said yesterday about, you know, being out in space, and the moon
coming around the orbit and looking and seeing the earth down there. You know, it's the same
kind of a perspective of being overwhelmed by that. Here's another statement, a perception of
deep peace and sharp, non groggy mental clarity. Whatever I'm experiencing makes space
and time seem like a world of fear. That's interesting because they were asked to describe the
human experience. And they say make spacetime seem like a world of fear. In other short,
quick one time experience. Another short, quick one, physical bodies. I didn't know what
they're supposed to be answering, but the gist was physical bodies. My perception of the
envelope was given by my god and it's quite amusing. McDonald's
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So the human experience can be compared to that of McDonald's what?
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As I was getting along towards the end of the experiences people were having and bX 27, this
guy wants to sort of wrap it up. So his answer on this particular forum was, so to recap your
week, the answer to your first question is love. The answer to your second question is balance.
The answer to your third question is you. Interesting situation. So, we have some people that
we induce an altered state through the Hemi sync process, we give them many years of
experience, in some cases, by coming to the Gateway voyage and a lifeline and then
exploration 27 and B x 27. It's sort of a natural filtering process of people learning how to
experience and report in these realms, and then have sent them out there on this exploration
and asked 87 of them. So tell us what's happening to you. And looking back and seeing
whether there is anything that is common to their experience? Can we say something about
this realm of the healing regeneration center? Is it out there? Or is it in here? And then, of
course, you have to do a little follow up. And you have to say I have these participants of these
87 participants? Was there anything about them? Particularly, that made them answer the way
they did? And so we get back to this covariant analysis of looking at their backgrounds versus
looking at the answers that they provided? And you might argue that the reason that you would
answer this is older people are closer to death. And so they're going to be thinking about it all
the time. And they're going to have all these opinions and ideas about what facing death is. So
are the majority of answers in the spiritual rounds? Are the majority of experiences
inappropriately balanced up in the seniors that came to the program? Or are they distributed
normally across? The people that came in this chart says it was distributed? Normally, this is
where the majority of the people came. These are not overly big up here, people over 70 are
not the ones that were responsible for most of the answers. So the argument that old people
think about dying a lot, and they're going to have more to report about this doesn't hold up.
How about education, the notion that I brought before? Well, if you just had enough education,
you'd know that all this is nonsense, and you wouldn't have these kinds of experiences or
expectations. Well, unfairly, we added all highly educated people here. But it would been very
interesting if the people had more answers if and when I looked back at the population and
said, Well, who's making all these statements about this? Are these people quiet and don't
have any experiences? And are these people making lots of statements that would have been
interesting outcome. But here it says, Now, this is distributed appropriately. We happen to
have a population who educated people here. And that's where their answers came from. It
didn't come from the lesser educated people. Now, how about people who said that they had
some sort of serious illness? You know, did they secretly come here because their doctors told
them they were gonna die of cancer in two months. And so they want to come here and get
straight with God before they died or something. Were those the people were the people with
declared serious illness? Were they the ones that are reporting based on expectation, all these
talks? And obviously, the answer's no huge majority of people said no, they did not have any
kind of serious illness. And that's where most of our answers came from. So it was not an out
of balance situation. about use of psychoactive drugs, everybody knows all these visions
you're having you're just hallucinations and it's probably because you're all new age people.
You're all taking drugs and stuff. So that's what's responsible for you having all of these visions
is your brain cells are burned out and you're taken a lot of psychoactive prescriptions, while in
this case, huge, vast majority, were not under any medication. And there's such a huge
difference here. It's as though those few people that were taking some sort of medications did
not have experiences, which is sort of what we always thought all along. But this is the first
time where we answered this question that some of these restrictive medications, you know,
the psychiatrists gives you some pills to kind of help you keep the world together. Works, you
can't even get it apart when you come to the attention, that may tend to restrict your ability to
have these experiences. About people in psychotherapy. Obviously, if you're in psychotherapy,
I mean, you're crazy, right? On the other hand, if you're in psychotherapy, you have proof,
you're not crazy. Everybody else, you know. So, it turned out appropriately, a huge majority of
people in the group had never been to psychotherapy in any way, shape, or form. And that's
where our experiences came from. It isn't like those who had had some psychotherapy, learn
to talk about these things better, or had more experiences. The questions came from the body
of the population. And we're not skewed in a way to think that going to psychotherapy, in any
way, enhanced or over produced these particular concepts of spiritual realities. So that's been
an overview of this very interesting study that we did of the healing regeneration center. And
we are in the process of doing another study of the Planning Center, which is going to be an
extended multi year study with a number of people that are coming back to BX 27. And no, I
won't tell you what's inside the sealed envelope as to what is the Planning Center, all about?
But we hope to find out. I think I have an interesting summary statement on the abstract there
that says, the non physical healing regeneration center process and involves the presence of
spiritual beings, expressions of love and light and happiness and enjoyment. The key to
maintaining health is to express love. In the boundary area, just beyond human experience,
they're just a realm of creation. Individual personal differences, didn't significantly contribute to
skewing of answers one way or the other. We tried to take a look at breaking the population up
and see if there was anything particular about the population that would answer one way or the
other didn't. And there are several qualitative consistencies within the data that seem to
indicate that the information analyzed provides meaningful insights into the spiritual realm.
There may in fact, be some collective and hearing County in terms of some sort of collective
unconscious opinion about this round, may be something universal in humanity itself, about
this particular situation, what we can expect what we can look forward to, on passing into this
realm. And be ready for lunch. Do I want to take questions? I did that before I started the
study. To talking about Hemi sync, and it's, you know, traditional proposed use of stimulating
the reticular activating system. And you briefly mentioned you had some other theories. Were
you listening? Could you expand on those a little bit? Yeah, I could, but you might have on
tape.
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Well, I can talk about this, but I never have before. Anybody want to know about this? Forget. I
talked about presenting for you and neurophysiological model that seems to have been
accepted out there because people seem to think it has not mastered in it that I can publish it.
It sort of makes a little bit of sense to them. But I have information that that may not be the full
answer. And nothing's ever the full answer. But when I was in it For the exploration 27
program, and you get to ask questions and go places, and Bob apparently got this information
in his life to create this for us and how it works and everything. And I felt very strongly in my
heart that you know, you should really ask important questions when you step out into the
rounds into the gathering into 3435. Being You don't want to ask what's for dinner? You know,
I mean, not even a relevant subject, they probably don't do dinner or something. But having
this notion that Bob got this information from elsewhere, I know what I'll do, I'll ask, who is the
guy that gave this Hemi sync stuff to Bob? And really, what does it all mean for humanity?
Well, I was rebuffed from 3435, in a way and they said, go to the library and look it up. Which
one of the areas in focus 27 is the library? Okay, so I went into the library and focus 27 And I
began to look it up. And it had to do with shape. Now I have to give you a little bit of
background information on that. The idea of shape or mandala, or what was talked about
yesterday in the Phantom genome phenomena with a light and so forth and so on, the idea of
shape seems to be a robust phenomena across the threshold from the physical to the non
physical. One realm of research that's interesting about that is the port technique Dr. Put off
had the experience of watching some people do the aport technique, D materialize something
here and send it over to here. And they did lots of different things. And one of the things they
did was, you know, crickets and crickets lived through the process of D materializing and
reappearing over here. They tried watches, mechanical watches and electrical watches. And
mechanical watches mean teen time, but electrical watches did not they lost the transit time
from one area to another. So the realm of electro magnetics, which makes the watch run
doesn't survive across this threshold. But mechanical concepts do survive across this
threshold. Life forces which are electrochemical and not electromagnetic do survive across this
threshold. Nether area looking into this had to do with the healing practices. In the Philippines
and other places where there are charlatans who do things of reaching in the body and they all
the time, they're palming a piece of calf liver or something in their hand and they go in, they
say, Look, I've taken out the tumor isn't that wonderful, which is a fraud situation. But if you
believe him, it might help, you know, I mean, but there are others that seem to actually be able
to do something genuine. And there was a gentleman that came to our programs two or three