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2000 Professional Seminar:
Neurological Adaptation to Binaural Beating
(Skip Atwater)
(Transcript)
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00:03
I'm here to introduce to you, F Holmes at water, fortunately also known as Skip. And most of
you know, Skip, he's been affiliated with the Institute for many years. And in 19, Ada became a
full time employee here as our director of research. And over the last couple of years, skip has
become kind of a roving ambassador for TMI, he goes around the country and other countries,
presenting papers, giving presentations to groups who study consciousness, and even last fall,
traveled to Barcelona to present a paper there, which I understand was very well received.
He's going to be presenting the results this morning of two studies, which he's recently
completed, which I think you'll find very interesting. And we have a lot of respect for the work
that skip does in the lab and the way he represents TMI. And there's another aspect of skip
that I've come to appreciate in the last year. So skip comes in to give a talk to our beyond
exploration 27 participants and comes in right at that time, we're going to be exploring what we
call focus 34 and 35. Or that area that Bob Monroe describes him for journey says the area of
the gathering. And he gives a very, very fun talk and sort of his thoughts on how things have
evolved in human history and human consciousness and from a very unique perspective of
time. And he comes to the logical and inescapable conclusion in his talk that there is no
separation, we are all one. And that the force or the energy that binds all this is love. And when
you hear skip, give this talk, he comes from such a depth of feeling in his heart, and such
genuineness that is very, very moving and very inspirational. You understand as you listen to
him that this is not just a concept that he believes in. But it's something he truly knows within
the core of his being. So it's my pleasure to introduce our researcher with the big heart, skip
Atwater.
03:02
Thank you. I'm glad I don't have to give that talk and impress you with that talk right now. That
Okay, okay, good. The good news is Hemi sync works. Okay. That's the short version of my
talk.
03:28
The long version will take me about 10 minutes to do so I have to compress that 10 minutes
into 90 minutes. And so I'm going to attempt to do that. I first met Bob Monroe back in 1977,
when I was involved with the Army's remote viewing program, and I was charged with
determining different kinds of technologies that might benefit and help other remote viewers.
So I got in touch with Bob over at whistle field and he invited me to come down. I couldn't
reveal to him at the time, the true nature of why I was coming to visit him that I was interested
in the work that he was doing. I just told him that I was in the army and I'd like to come down
and visit with him and talk to him a little bit about what he had done and I was graciously
received by Nancy with in the springtime. It was about April late April of 1977. And I was
graciously received and handed a glass of iced tea and sat down and talked to Bob about what
was going on. And as the morning warmed up. Blossoms we're all out in the trees and whistle
field. We walked among the gardens and over to the greenhouse and around through the
flowering trees and sat on a slope. In this time he had told me about his research and what
he'd been doing and books that he had written One vote at that time. And I thanked him for
discussing this and said that I myself had had experiences in childhood, of jumping out of the
window and flying around the neighborhood and visiting with those junior high school girls that
I dare not approach during the school day. But that it was easy enough to do nocturnally In this
way. Now. He became interested in my experiences, and he told me that he had been working
with a technology and he was able to help people have these kinds of experiences and be able
to talk to them while they had the experience. And they could then make a cassette recording.
And I said, that was really strange. How could you talk to somebody about this and interview
them during your experience? That was very strange. And those of you who knew Bob, he was
a large and gruff man. He said, Well, kid stuff. And so I thought this was going to be really
interesting. And we went into this little laboratory building, he had it whistle field, and I thought,
Oh, I'm gonna get to see some experiment happening. I haven't gotten in that building yet.
There must be something really neat going on in there. And I'll get to, you know, watch and
see what's happening in there. Well, that isn't the way Bob operated, of course. And when I got
inside the building, he walked me down a hallway, Pastor, receptionist down the hallway. He
said, Well, why don't you go lay down that bed over there. And I'll show you what this is all
about. And I was like, you want me to lay down there. And that was a very strange room.
Because the bed was built back into the wall. It didn't stick out into the room like in our
bedrooms. It was built back into the wall. And there was no other furniture in the room, maybe
a couple boxes stacked up no windows in the room. But he told me to lie down and put the
headphones on. There was a strange thing dangling down up above my head when he said,
Oh, don't worry about that. That's just a microphone. No, it looks pretty spooky to me. It was
like a bunch of, I don't know, something in a colander that you would cook with a bunch of
spun steel. What's that stuff that you clean things with? Steel oil inside of a colander something
he said it was a microphone and I had no idea what it was. And I said, Well, what kind of
sounds you play? And he said, oh, I'll just play some music for you. So you get an idea what
this is about and what I was telling you about? And I said well, okay, it's kind of weird. You
know, I have to understand I'm trying to maintain this military department of the young military
officer, they are on this official secret investigation with Bob Monroe. And he has me lie down
in the bed and I hear some sounds and music coming over. The lights are all out in the dark,
and I'm listening. And so that sounds pretty interesting. It's pretty weird music anyways, I didn't
know. It turned out to be from a composer by the name of Tomita. Maybe some of you
recognize Tomita, but for a military officer in the late 70s, that was pretty weird music, you
know, kind of thing. Then he changed over and played some surf sounds. And I heard him say,
this is the sound of surf the natural power of sound assembled here at the Monroe Institute.
And I'm like, okay, cool. Surface, okay, I'm a California boy and surf was kind of a nice thing
that was okay. And as the waves would crash in and recede back out, there was this hissing or
popping sound that was there and I imagined they were the like, the bubbles coming up from
the sand means hissing or popping sound, and the waves would crash in and they go back out
again. And after a while, there was one sort of last wave that went out. But that hissing you're
popping sound sort of remained in the background, and I was listening, sort of wondering
where the next wave was going to come from. Then there was this sound that was sort of a
rhythmic, throbbing that started happening. And I'm like, I wonder if there's something wrong
with these earphones? Or what is this going on? Listen, listen, man, I kind of forgot about the
sound because the bed began to lift up off of the floor. And I thought, gee, this room is really
fancy. I wonder how he does that. You know, I've seen places where they have elevators with
these pistons that push the elevators up and when you get the oil changed in your car, they
can push it up, and I imagined that that's what he had that some knobby turn somewhere
would raise this bed up like this and it was part of this experience and so forth and so on. But I
couldn't hear any sound you know, in a gas station, you hear like an air compressor running or
I thought maybe the bed should bang against the walls or something is up but I didn't hear any
sound but I definitely felt this bed rise up to the ceiling and it was pretty dramatic. This
resonant sound in this hissing kept going on and going on. But I sort of, you know, adapted to
it sort of forgot about it. in psychological terms, they call that habituation, you just, you know,
add it to the rest of your consciousness as it were. And I felt a sense of motion. A kinesthetic
sense of movement, like when you're on a jet airplane, and you're sitting there reading your
magazine or something, but everything in your body tells you I'm in motion, I can feel
something happening. And I felt that and then Bob's voice came on, and said, well, attackman
kid, and I said, I don't know, I'd seem to be going someplace. And he said, Well, where are you
going? And I'm like, I don't have a clue. This is your thing here. He didn't talk for a while, and I
seem to have this sense of movement. Then I began to see something happening. And I could
see things passing by me. And as I looked closer, I was moving through an opening. And I
don't want to say tunnel, because that everybody says, Oh, I was moving through a tunnel.
This wasn't a tunnel. Because while it was, there were these big giant crystals on the side of it.
And it was everything that I could remember about a flavor straw. Remember, when you're a
kid, you drink through a flavor straw, I thought I must be going down a flavor of straw because I
could see all these crystals on the side. And that's what it reminded me of. I call it going down
the flavor straws were and I must have gone for a long time I was going pretty fast. Maybe you
know, Star Trek terms about warp seven, or something like that? No, it's going down this tube.
And after a while, I felt my back arch like this, like I was looking up, which I logically now say,
Oh, I must have gotten to the end of the tube because I was arching up at the end. But just
before I came to, maybe the end, my whole perception, my whole idea of where I was what I
was doing, changed, and I found myself in a boundless vast, open white space. And I it's hard
to use prepositions like a whitespace, because you can't be inside something that's boundless.
Nevertheless, this whitespace, watching myself come out of the end of the straw. Now at the
time, it was like, wow, this is really cool. You know, it was very deeply meaningful. It sounds
silly saying it now. But what I had there was, I come all this way to find out I was already there,
you know, the proverbial wherever you go, that's where you are kind of a thing. But at the time,
it was
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very powerful and meaningful, and had a lot more than just my words, saying it right now. Well,
I must have uttered something my voice must have gone home or, or something. Because
immediately Bob was in my ears. And he said, what's happening? And I'm like, I'd forgotten all
about Bob, you know, all about visiting the institute all about everything. And I first thought that
he might be there someplace in that white space. And then I got myself together and say, oh,
yeah, that's right. He's in my headphones. I'm really laying down in the bed. And he's in my
headphones. And so I said, Well, I, I guess I have to tell you later. And he was quiet again.
And I don't remember too much about what happened in this place in this idea in this
awareness. But some time passed. And the next thing I heard was Bob saying, well, it's about
time you go to lunch now. And I'm like, lunch. It's a really strange concept. What is lunch
anyway, and he kept encouraging me It's time now that we need to go to lunch and you need