Markdown lines 3125–3345 · Part 1 of 2
1976-03-31 - JCA-05
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This is jc AJ, ca on 331 76 331 76
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feeling nothingness of being nothingness, I found myself and total blackness. Being there not
being able to feel or see my body, but feeling where am I, I should be looking around to see
what's there. Not being able to see anything. feeling myself to be energy, I'm feeling energy
around me that would represent other people. And meeting my guide was also not in body
form. No, this time spoke to me in a very deep voice showing me that it was still him, although
his voice may be different, or the way you look could be different. He's still the same person.
And the feeling of nothingness is is quite comfortable. Sharing the body is not isn't that scary?
was the last part of that question any message or any information or anything? Okay, I say that
tonight is a lesson for me to experience energy, another level, to feel energy. Apparently this
has been triggered off by that my paying attention so much to physical body and to death of
physical body, rather than looking at the the being above that or beyond that. And he just
wants you to feel more comfortable
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with death. And with not seeing a body which again is going to prepare me for more
communication for more learning. I saw my friend Scott. But when I first saw him, I could hear
him and I kept looking around looking for a body. And I saw the body for four seconds just to
assure me that I was God but again not but also to tell me that I don't need to see the physical
part of him. I just need to to feel where he is at another level. This feels very reassuring.
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Know why it feels that way. Before you interact with physician energy that is you and your
physical body. What is this relationship between this energy? Is your physical? That's a good
question. I don't really this part of my energy that I have
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and I'm out of body is used to build my body. And I when I use this energy to build my body
being here on earth that blocks or curves my thinking process, so it doesn't go out of body.
And the thinking process apparently needs to be curved in order to communicate with the other
personalities that are hearing or again, it's it's one type of communication when I'm out of body
I take most of that energy that's used for my body with me but enough to keep the body in form
is left here. But it permits me to open up my mind and to be aware that there are other
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personalities other brains so to speak, to communicate with, to talk to to learn from I think
we're first entered or become a part of this physical body creation At what point apparently,
when, although fertilization is a mechanical thing, chemicals thing. The personalities out of
body make choices, I'm very much aware when this process happens, and choose at that time
to develop the fetus or not to develop. So part of my energy even at this moment, maybe us
too. Develop a personality, I mean, a body and part of my personality, and I may have several
bodies going on same time. I mean, several bodies have been developed at the same time.
Same time in this physical reality. Yeah.
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Tell me right now is 101 is old. And what is crippled, what is male and where they are I'm not
ready. I'm not ready to know. And I could feel being old and crippled. I really couldn't feel the
being male.
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How does this make sense but energy returns to the personality and and it strengthens. I don't
understand it. It doesn't, doesn't fit. It's the energy of the personality. is not totally aware of
itself and chill parts of the personality. Go to the physical body and give it a range or give it a
give it depth so it could look at itself. At the low side as well as when it goes out of body. Look
at the high side So you're looking at the continuum, I want a after death and it comes back into
the personality the personality is more aware of its own potential. It feels right but it's not
coming out right. As to what
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as you saw his personality and then returned again to this physical matter system choice
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the personality wants to do to learn about itself. And after death it returns it's like the whole
personality takes an assessment of where it's at and does it really feel itself to becoming a
unified force or part of a larger force. And until it feels whole, it keeps exploring all parts of its
self through physical bodies by coming down to earth. Apparently, at some point in time, when
it becomes a unified whole and no longer feels a need then to ever re enter a physical body
that's a part of feeling I think, part of feeling this nothingness of just energy just being without
having to have a shape or form or visually recognizable.
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Entering the body isn't limited just to this planet earth or to other planets.
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We Can't we go to other places there are there are beings other places and our energy is
aware of all these other places. physical bodies not like human bodies on you know not like
Earth foreign bodies, but other forms of things or beings like those Marsh Martians I saw we
may do that so whatever I mean, it could even be that one of our personality part of our
personality is playing against another part to me work get a problem not a problem that's not
correct.
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To help understand the personality what are some of the other forms other forms like What are
those? Who He showed me was like like jello but Sheldon kind of things slimy kind of thing.
Are these located anywhere near the planet Earth?
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I get 1000s of light years away. What if What about this describe as far as they stop there but
that's not where they live. Fairly they. This is like a visiting place for them but that's not where
they live. In a green place, another green place and the dead
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1000s of light years from here, it's pretty far away. We were almost going to go but then we
decided not to. I'm so sure I will I want to go that far.
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This energy, how can we display this type of energy? How can we display it? Here in this
physical matter that people really deserve? How can we image in fact, he said, we're not going
to we're not going he doesn't see any purpose in doing this and see
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any positive results, or positive reason for doing it. And it's not important is important to make
this culture aware of this energy. Oh, yes, you feel sad that that needs to be done? How can
we best Oh, it just looks like you're going to be pretty popular with the seminars, they're just
gonna keep flocking in. That's going to be the best way. It's very structured, it's very
reassuring. And they're going to know and that's the best way. He really feels that by showing
folks energy, which they mistaken for UFOs and other things, that that's really not going to
happen understanding, it's going to scare people. Rather than help them to realize their own
potential,
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utilize this energy in this physical body, the best way we can in such a strongest way that we
can indicate.
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He suggests that he might get some more guides to cut a monitor over the seminars to help
people stay in 12 and feel very comfortable and 12. So that they would want to keep returning
to 12 because the more they stay in 12, the more they are going to realize that they're part of a
much bigger force of personality.
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body can use this energy to perform certain things that are necessary for the sustenance for
example, possible to use this energy one form of matter into another form that can be
assimilated and digested. Packed is very visible. There. So I
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actually said yes. And then he also said we would need to do this less. If we use this energy to
slow down our own metabolism, but our need is by sustenances. We think we do And
therefore a lot of the foods that are around us already, even in some pretty hard times, would
hold the physical body together, we'd say you wouldn't have to transform trees or dirt into into
food. We would also think it uses energy to recognize edible things and non edible, I mean in
terms of poison and non poisonous things and not yell. In other words, you could work out a
code, where you look at something, and if something is good, then it would, you know, indicate
a white light over it, if something was bad, it would, would have, you know, if you wanted a red
light over it, you could do that. So you wouldn't have to look into you know, a science book or
plant book to know what you're reading
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is there in such a physical body eating animal flesh it's harder on the body. I thought he was
very more forum. I keep seeing plants, green plants. But we we have the capability of banking,
our body able to handle animal fats or animal need, if it wanted to.
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Body energy is there any way that we can use this energy to use this energy to restore the
body directly?
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Again, like it was for terms of life being pro long when it should be cut off. No. physical body is
not something that should just you know, go on forever, although the the energy would be able
to do that, it's not going to help the overall personality. To learn from it, I would just just be
wasteful. The idea is to use the body as a tool to learn and once you've learned from it, then
the body should be discarded. And therefore the you know, the energy the mind returns back
to the personality in this structure, I'm not sure what you're asking
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is there a set of rules because energy, which is your properties, in terms of having a physical
body and also supervising the cost? structure besides what you
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Oh, no, the energy itself decides. Now they if the energy itself makes wrong decisions or
misuses the energy, then it destroys itself. If it makes correct decisions, it feels or strengthens
his personality. And it and it is possible for the energy to destroy itself. classifies it as misuse
when it has not been added to its present knowledge hasn't learned or hasn't gained anything
more than it knew previously.
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If now, this is more of a can't really put my
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it's more than just the question of good or bad or good or evil, preview previous knowledge or
understanding, then that may be used as, as additional strength. If the killing was for the sake
of killing, and nothing learned nothing gained, then it could destroy the overall personality.
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It's almost like, but it's not it. But it isn't a chemical reaction. I mean, there isn't a super guy who
destroys the energy, the energy itself, this may destroy itself. Under these conditions, how
many other cars were destroyed by five and then I got very few.
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So also possible for these energies to emerge with another energy or at the same
developmental level.
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So may it's also possible for five say, for example, five energies to merge to become one
energy. Now they can at that time become integrated. Or they may look the energy is home, I
look at its new situation and decide it needs more information due to become a unified whole
and therefore may send part of his energy into physical bodies or wherever.
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But there also seems to be a hierarchy of understanding that goes along with this. As the
energy is strengthened, it moves up a hierarchy of knowing
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I asked that also in it. It's what we would call God. But it's I can see it, I can feel it but I can say
it it doesn't. The words don't say what it really is.
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What would be the purpose of professional help? It's very important to become most towards
this unified whole, a whole. Like, there's one on the top. And as the personalities move, and
merge and become more knowledgeable in the level of understanding phrases, they move on
up to this one, it doesn't make sense verbally, but visually, it makes a lot of tell me that I need