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The Gateway Process Changed me Forever - @NelsonDellis - DEBRIEFED ep. 4

2024-08-30 · Video publication date

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[00:58:00] want to do out of body still because I'm I'm tiptoeing MH um from having those really crazy flying experiences to the third one I had which was like I can't even explain like I'll I'll talk about it here quickly but um I uh I was in a dream it was turning into a sex dream and it was during uh the Gateway the true Gateway experience well during that moment that I realized it's this can be a sex dream [00:58:30] I was like oh this is a dream and that I was like oh forget that yeah I'm like I want to go at a body and as soon as I I utter those words in my imagination I get thrown is the only description I can have my Consciousness gets thrown I feel myself being projected like a thousand miles an hour and darkness complete darkness just just being thrown super scared hearing a loud whoosh like [00:59:00] a like this while it's happening I was like oh my God I'm like it's happening I'm out of body and I remember thinking to myself because uh Hannah uh who was one of the people that was there and she she was the only person who had an actual out-of- body experience while we were there and she'd never had one before okay and she described it was really interesting uh and she kind of thought to herself like oh maybe this isn't for me it's happening to everybody else you know like that type of deal and when it happened to her she got this like what she describes a peppermint feeling all over her body like a pep cold peppermint feeling and I had that [00:59:30] same feeling uh but then she popped out like a uh she's like she describes it like the soul popped out of the mold of her body like an ice cube out of a tray oh okay that's a good visual yeah yeah yeah and instantly she has a sister that lives in Paris so she's like Paris Paris Paris you know you panic when you're out of body um every time it happened to me like since I've been out of body and I'm like oh what do I do with this I don't want to go back to the body uh think of something right and you P you panic and everybody's like slow down but you have no like you're kind of excited yeah and [01:00:00] she goes Paris Paris Paris and whooshes off to Paris she's flying around Paris now she's thinking I want to get a croissant and she was way too excited slammed back in her body because any emotional Spike will bring you back and wakes up you know in tears like she was so happy as soon as I left the body and I'm being projected in this eternal Darkness I'm thinking to myself what do I do and I go Paris Paris Paris yeah when I said it my voice was [01:00:30] like a devil it was like Paris Paris Paris I I remember thinking like what the [ __ ] that come for me and then I felt the world around me shift like I felt everything sh even in the darkness like everything was shifting like I was going to Paris but then I was like oh well I can't see anything let me open my eyes so I started opening my eyes I'm forcing my eyes open and now I see these giant monolithic cubes churning is the only way I can say into each other with this giant sound this rumbling like Tesseract like it sounds like Inception when the par actually [01:01:00] falls on itself you remember that yeah it kind of felt like that and I was like I was scared of it and I closed my eyes I opened it again still there I was like God no and I was like wiggle your fingers and I wiggle my fingers and I feel myself Slamm back in my body damn so that was that right that was a totally different thing never happened like that was it felt closer to uh a dream than the other things because it I couldn't see myself I couldn't see my room yeah but this next one that happened a few weeks ago or last week um just a couple days ago [01:01:30] uh I get up it's like 1:30 in the morning I'm I'm up in my bed and I'm I'm thinking H just go back to sleep I'm like I'm very tired I can probably maybe I can have an out of body experience and so I close my eyes I'm in my bed and I go I deeply desire to leave my body in my head I deeply desire to leave my body and on the third time I say it I felt myself go like glitching back and forth like a vibratory glitch it was very bizarre at this point I was buzzing already my whole body was like vibrating [01:02:00] and I'm sinking into my bed now I'm sinking in my bed I'm like okay it's happening I'm I you get that familiar feeling of out of body I know I'm there I know I'm in this upside down realm it's happening yeah uh I force my eyes open now I see my room I'm in the mattress and I'm like oh I got to get up and I put my hand on the mattress and I lift myself up and I look and I just see myself they just dead and I go oh that's [01:02:30] enough for me all right that's enough and I go right back into my body and I'm I'm wide awake at this point my heart's pounding um and that's the sort that's where I'm at with all this you got to get over that fear of seeing yourself I don't know how you do that it's uh and Ary said it takes time he's like it's very scary at first but eventually through practice you know like he said he's like he would he would take two steps and go back into his body he would you know push forward yep put his hand through the window that's enough for tonight let's go back and because you do get frightened sometimes you you might [01:03:00] see something else you don't like to see you're like oh I don't want to see that I want to go back in and have these experiences and then eventually leave the window and you fly away so I'm still in that novelty phase cool but to touch back to where I began this rent was there are so many apparent uh variations of uh you know things you can do with your Consciousness it makes sense right that the if if our Consciousness is infinite and can do all these different things like why would the experience of having an OB always be the same I'm sure it's some projection of how you approach [01:03:30] it and and what you're feeling you know and it can vary so that doesn't surprise me you know yeah and like Joe mcmonagle says he always says uh the the subconscious knows all yeah like it's all knowing yep you know and then I'm always reminded that uh one of my favorite lines from Eddie veter which is uh a mindful of questions and a teacher in my soul and I've never got that before and it was always one of my favorite songs on sorry on um on the [01:04:00] album uh into the wild the song's called guaranteed favorite song and the lyrics are amazing but now it has a whole different meaning where I'm like I do have a teacher and the teacher might just be me yeah yeah right you know you know one thing uh one thing I did learn from all this experience is I can go into a room turn off the lights put headphones on listen to sounds MH come out of the room with more knowledge than I had going in that's so true and I'm [01:04:30] like where did that come from I didn't read a book I didn't watch a show I was there by myself apparently and yet I come out knowing more access something yeah or or or knowing something better knowing knowing more about something that's wild yeah I have the same feeling too yeah that's pretty cool I was going to one thing I was going to say is the you know talk about the the peppermint feeling MH that's Hannah yeah had um when these experiences happened [01:05:00] to me or something weird happened uh I got like a cold air flying in or out I couldn't really tell the difference but a cold pressure difference coming out of my ears every time interesting yeah and I I feel it coming I be like because it's not like there's air being blasted into the headphon I was like okay something's happening oh cool yeah it was pretty interesting I asked the trainers and they're like never heard that before so again maybe it's just people have [01:05:30] different I think so you know I think we all have different precursors to knowing I now get that peppermint feeling uh I get it in my stomach and in my back like it starts growing and I'm like what's happening I try not to get excited but for me vibrations is the big one it starts at my feet and if I'm having a really good session It'll like stay around the lower part of my body uh but if I'm having like a really intense thing it'll climb up and it'll be my whole body and in the book journey uh Journeys out of the body he he recommends controlling it to a point [01:06:00] where you can run it up your body and down kind of like this so yeah you're so you're creating this pulse going up and down and that's like part of the practice of eventually popping out so I'm getting there cool yeah I mean the vi with the different uh frequencies with the F10 15 21 12 whatever we we were touching on like I could feel vibrational differences like and not necessarily in my body sometimes but it would be like around my [01:06:30] head or like where my Consciousness was expanding into or like my brain felt like it was being like jiggled you know like weird s weird Sensations with different uh depths of relaxation or those different frequencies those stuff I've never felt in my life so bizarre yeah bizarre but also familiar yeah is the uh is the other thing there like uh you know like I was going to say loving and and and and comforting but that's [01:07:00] almost that's familiar that's essentially what that is yeah like getting to know myself like I I I put this into words the other other day but it's like it was like kind of like seeing an old childhood friend for the first time in 30 years yeah it was new but familiar yeah I was like oh this is me like and yeah my how we've changed this is this is this is refreshing familiar nice you know you got that [01:07:30] nostalgic feeling of oh hey young Chris you know there you are yeah you know and uh kind of like uh you know the movie Hook when Robin Williams goes back and then he realizes that he's Peter Pan yeah and in that kind of like moment where he's like oh and like oh there you are Peter you know I kind of feel like that now where I was like oh we're worry this whole time yeah yeah I found myself like wanting to jump in to my check unit like I was so excited like let's go I'm like on a journey and even you know I [01:08:00] came back uh Friday and didn't really I was exhausted travel day and then Saturday I finally got a moment to do a longer exercise and I got so excited and when I was in it I was it was like so familiar to be back in that place and I was just so happy to do it again like to relax and and hear some of the sounds and even Bob's voice like has now become like this very comforting thing to hear yeah um yeah we always joke like uh we all have Daddy [01:08:30] Issues cuz you're like you couldn't wait for Bob to tuck you in every night and wake you up in the morning definitely daddy issues the one thing that was weird to me was when he would say the thing about eliminations like a lot of eliminations do you remember that line no like he it was usually when you're coming out and he' be like you know you'll remember everything you said we we you saw and you'll be more perfect coming out of this and relax and all the eliminations will be uh complete and [01:09:00] stuff I I just like I never got that may have drown that up oh weird um but I was like what eliminations are you talking about here sometimes I would I would um I'd be very much awake and I and I would hear his voice come in in mid-sentence oh interesting and I was like oh I just like somehow click out of his voice like I yeah I I would drown him out sometimes but I was not in a state of sleep same yeah no sometimes he'd be counting you