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[00:46:30] sessions oh yeah yeah yeah so like we would come back it was so excited from these sessions and be like hey uh you showed up in mine and they're like you showed up in mine yeah like oh like and and we'd have these exchanges that were just we were so excited to tell other people like or hey we'd have a secret message and and the people would tell you that like we had um it was I think Osio and Amy and they're both kind of veterans to this whole thing and ignasio
[00:47:00] had had Amy present her I think with a what he describes a bubble gum but it was a round bubble uh made of like like a soap bubble but he called it bubble gum for some reason okay and she's like oh she's like that's funny cuz I was just playing she's like I brought this little it's like a toy gun that shoots Bubbles and I go bubble gun oh yeah and they go whoa and and she was playing
[00:47:30] with it just earlier and like this like weird connection happened and so I saw her in the meditation uh early in the day and so I I said those words to her and I waited to see if she was going to tell me or say the word bubblegum so when she said that I said this is this has to be it this round bubble type thing so I shared with her and then and she shared with me that at lunch while I was inside talking she was
[00:48:00] out by the pool trying to get her bubble machine to work I brought um well it was funny cuz at lunch when you mentioned it to me you're like you know like a soap bubble like the little bubbles I'm like I was fiddling with it for like an hour I couldn't get it to working as batteries till like do it's like a little fun kids toy where it blows them and I was going to try and take pictures and yeah so I brought a bubble gun a bubble gun a bubble oh bubble G there he
[00:48:30] is I a bub G funny yeah so we'd have all these like overlaying things happen quite a bit and then as you know in the story where I saw Jordan's scoreboard yep the Dallas saw his face his his disembodied head appear like 3D I was like oh it's kind of scary and then boom this scoreboard Dallas zero in stats and I was Googling trying to find a picture of this and you don't
[00:49:00] watch sports I you don't know [ __ ] about sports I I know I know Sports I used to play basketball of course I don't follow Sports you don't follow sports that's what I mean I didn't know a that Dallas I didn't know that the playoffs were happening yeah I didn't know that Dallas were in the playoffs I didn't know anything anything about like you could have told me the playoffs are in four months or they happened yesterday and I would have believed you I had no idea and so when I was like hey and he was like in the foxes stand I came up to him I was like hey uh does this mean
[00:49:30] anything to you and he goes well funny you say that he's like first of all he's like I'm from Dallas Mavericks are my favorite team and they're playing tonight and it's an elimination game and it's been on my mind and I usually don't think about it but today I was like I have to think I was like whoa that's weird yeah so it was like one of those like knowings yeah like when you had that Vision you're just like oh that's it yeah that's when I saw it I was like this is something because it was so striking to me it wasn't a memory yeah it wasn't like a you know like sometimes we get these vague 2D sort of like
[00:50:00] memories and we're like oh it's like an overlay this was like in like 3D I was like your face kind scary yeah and something in your video you said how you were like reluctant to tell him I felt that too with things like even though you know and even with my my horse race thing like even though you know there's that creeping in of skepticism yeah that just is like no this is stupid don't make a fool of yourself or you're don't go with that but the one thing that I love that Joe
[00:50:30] says and he said it in our session I'm sure he said it to yours is that he said a lot of things he said a lot of things uh we talk about this as a six sense yeah well first of all he didn't remember either of us no he he sort of pretended but I could see the glazed Overlook at his eyes he meets a lot of people yeah yeah I was I was kind of disappointed it's that right no offense um but he said you know we talk about this stuff as being like a six sense but it's really your first sense ooh you and he talks about how that's how our
[00:51:00] species has survived yeah you know based on that instinctive thing so um you know we I think Society has kind of pushed that away so like even when we have these gut instincts it's kind of like hard for us to be like yeah is this and not get ridiculed you're right you're absolutely right programm to to squash it yeah you know so yeah and and you know that's really interesting thing about viewing too and Dr May said the same thing was that um all of these things are more
[00:51:30] accurate when there's a life on the line yeah okay that makes sense more at stake yeah because then it also ties into that primitive Instinct Instinct that we may may have developed through you know survival mechanism yeah uh you know to stay alive like if something dangerous is going to kill you you know what I mean or harm your family then you might get a vision an omen yeah you know and and uh exactly and that's why it was so
[00:52:00] effective for the CIA because a lot of times it was hostage situations or it was um you know High uh entropy targets like nuclear things terrorist War related exactly War related and that's you know because they they and children finding children Joe would always say he's like he' have a very easy time finding kids uh because again the life was on the line and it was like this I don't know this maybe this vibration this pulse being sent out as like a like a help signal you know that you're
[00:52:30] picking up on um I was going to tell you one more thing about uh the co coinciding uh storylines or visions that people would have near the end of the week one session was really profound for me and then I thought it was going to end I thought Bob who was in our ear was going to kind of wind us down but there was like more to it I was like Oh shoot what do I do now I'm like I I did good on this one like I have nothing to do so I was like I'll try to get out of body um and I did and I I felt like a pop like I was walking around the Fox's Den
[00:53:00] and I was like I'm going to go and try to get people out of their things and like we'll go for a ride you know like go hang out so I was like going room to room trying to pull bodies out um and uh along the way I went up the stairs um to the second floor I was on the bottom floor and uh I bump into someone who was floating towards me and it was uh this woman Elizabeth and I was just like what's up you know in in my vision or whatever and I keep going
[00:53:30] uh and I try to pull some people out they didn't confirm that so that didn't work out but Elizabeth said that she had uh an experience where she wasn't sure if it was an out of- body but I think it was um she didn't say she saw me but it was the one time in the whole experience that she felt something where she was out in the hallways uh that was a bit of a confirmation there yeah I mean it wasn't I would have liked more confirmation but it's funny that I saw her only uh and that she had the one
[00:54:00] instance right then that exact same session you know very cool yeah yeah um the thing about the out of- bodies that I've had because I've had two since I've gotten back so far okay maybe by the time this video goes up I've had I've had more yeah um one was through a lucid dream after lucid dreaming or rolling out of a lucid dream but the second one was from my bed once again okay and and I can tell you like when I when I hear this when I hear you saying like you
[00:54:30] don't know if it wasn't out a body like I like there's no other explanation I see myself I'm in my room I'm physically feeling things and I'm a awake okay and I can see myself and it is so scary and terrifying like there's no other explanation other than okay that's an out of body like for me so when I hear you say like I don't know like I I have a hard time imagining what it is you're seeing if it's just like a projected Consciousness or if it's it's because I know it is real because you obviously
[00:55:00] come back with these numbers and everything else but it's just such a varying the experiences are varied and I found that with other people too like where mine is fuzzy um Ary said that his started off being fuzzy just like mine okay black and white no color fuzzy low ISO and you could feel you walking around your house and you can like you know you can put your hand through a wall you're like whoa like all these all these things but as he did it more and more become more more clear yeah and then Rosal Lee said she would demand Clarity she would go
[00:55:30] clarity now okay and she's a very docile person like very sh but she's like when I get out of body she's like I'm very commanding and she's like you have to be because it's your reality and she's like clarity now and all a sudden it would be clear as day right and we would joke about like oh you need ob+ you need to sign up for ob+ to get like the HD version the 4K exactly the 4K 4K streaming yeah but just to just to touch on that cuz for me it was there's no like I know I was out of body mhm
[00:56:00] because I could see my body yeah yeah no I mean I did have a short instance where it felt like that and I wouldn't describe it as having Terror though um but we were in the check units doing our thing and um at one point I had an ish on my nose and I really try not to move in my sessions and I usually have my hands like interlaced across my chest here MH and uh I went to scratch my nose and I realized I was like into my face
[00:56:30] like ah you were scratching with your with your Consciousness my my fake hand your spirit body and then it snapped back right and there was that like realization that kind of thing and that felt like an out of body more like what you're talking about and H went away by the way yeah but who knows maybe that was just mentally it went away and in kind of a couple more times that little snapping happened in the same session like I I leaned up to reach it was kind of the tail end of the session I was reaching my notebook by my foot and my hand went through the notebook and I was
[00:57:00] like oh [ __ ] it's uh yeah and then I zapped back yeah and another instance of that happened but okay so those those are more in line with the kind you're talking about yeah I think but the seeing the number I I never felt like I was popped out or floating anywhere or seeing my body same with the one where I like walked around um but that's what Ary was telling me about he's like there is more than one way to have experiences with your Consciousness and the one thing he kept emphasizing was you can
[00:57:30] take a portion of your Consciousness and send it anywhere in the universe yeah and in time and space and have and you know bring back information he's like that is much more valuable he's like there is sort of um almost like a like a novelty to the out of body thing where it's like you want to have it yeah uh but once you've had it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again you're kind of like okay but now what yeah like what else can I do you know and that's I've now I'm on my like fourth out of body experience that I've had and I I'm still in the phase of I