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[00:23:00] yeah yeah and every I remember more so at the beginning every little thought that I'd have I'd be like what does this mean why is it being shown to me I like I got to remember this and then I'd never remember it because I'd be like half sleep or in between sleep and then people would say like well if you're supposed to remember it it will come back you know and I was like okay that's kind of freeing less pressure to like remember everything if it was important enough as a message then it will stick yeah um yeah being being uh being left brained
[00:23:30] majority I mean majority of the time I'm I find myself I find I have a healthy balance but for a lot of this stuff I'm usually left brained I'm usually very analytical yeah and sort of like how can I figure this out what is like you like what does this mean what is this uh huh am I supposed to be feeling this right now what am I feeling why am I feeling this is this normal yeah and as the week progressed for me I I slowly let go and a lot of that
[00:24:00] happened in the debriefs where I would hear people and their experiences and then in comparison to mine and I was just kind of like oh this I guess you're just supposed to like go with it and let go and that was the real big lesson that I learned for the meditations to work is the notion of Letting Go and for out a body to work as well yeah is uh is you have to you have to just completely release yeah physically mentally emotionally yeah like I felt like you I was it started up
[00:24:30] all it started all up here and slowly it went to he like it was less about my mind and more my heart yeah as cheesy as that sound but there's something to it you know where it was more feeling um and an immersive opening uh than like an analytical like problem to solve yeah right you every time the first you know the first experience that I had with this that um you know I guess I'll I'll
[00:25:00] run through my first out of body cuz I I really didn't talk about it in the video much I I dramaticized it for the video and made a you know sort of a skit out of it but that actually happened to me so I had a question about that because you said before you tell it again but that was in October this is October last year okay because remember I came here to to Wes was here we had dinner you told me about an OB and I swear that it was like something you were recalling from a long time ago oh no it did just happened oh shoot okay yeah it had just just happened and looking back at the
[00:25:30] Timeline was really interesting because it was just when we got back from seeing Joe yes when you think about it yeah right so it was amidst all of this OB talk I had one I didn't even realize it at the time and did you did you have two though I had two back to back yeah oh they were back Tob back back to back two nights in a row wow okay so got it the way this happened is I had stopped smoking weed uh for like a week because at this point I'd quit vaping I was vaping all the time and I was like
[00:26:00] GH I got to get rid of this stuff so to quit vaping I also stopped smoking weed because any sort of inhalation Vice like would just trigger and I would want to vape again so I just quit everything and about a week later I didn't know this but there's something called REM rebound and when REM rebound happens is basically this Floodgate Of REM sleep that you naturally seek that your mind naturally needss yeah and it builds up so it stores itself and then when you you have this REM rebound or this
[00:26:30] release after you know all these Inhibitors are gone it comes pouring out I didn't know this but at the same time I was having a hard time sleeping because I wasn't doing my nightly you know weed smoking routine right fall asleep and so I was like maybe I'll take a melatonin so I took a little melatonin and in Canada and this is something I found out in the comments it's not legal everywhere I guess you have to have it prescribed in some places here it's over the counter uh so I popped a melatonin melatonin is also known to to increase it helps something uh get secreted from
[00:27:00] the pineal gland and it helps increase REM sleep basically okay again so I'm just like creating the perfect storm right now I go to sleep in my sleep I have now it it's to be noted as a child I've always had um vivid dreams and a lot of times they turn Lucid since I was a kid i' I'd have lucid dreams I'd be able to control my dreams okay and a lot of times um the this is weird to say but a
[00:27:30] lot of times the way that those dreams would be controlled is through like a sex dream I would get aroused in in my dream and then I would say oh this is a dream I can just have sex here and I it would turn Lucid any 13-year-olds like exactly it still happens to me as an adult right uh but not so much when I was smoking weed and so now I'm having all these strange dreams throughout this week after about day three day four I'm starting to have vivid dreams and they're starting to turn Lucid now now at the last day like day seven day seven
[00:28:00] or day eight I'm having this nightmare I do not recall the nightmare but it was it wasn't something it wasn't like a catastrophe and it wasn't a monster or anything like that it was more like a figure that I was afraid of and I couldn't it was just like gave me a a real fright and I was like no I don't want to be here I don't want to be here and I forced my eyes to open like I could feel me forcing my eyes to open and this is a trick when I was a kid to get out of dreams I was like and open them up now I'm in my bed I'm
[00:28:30] in my bed the room is gray and fuzzy yeah I'm vibrating like there's a hum there's like a like and I feel my whole body humming like a like a tuning fork and I I hear this loud whoosh right at the beginning and everything's like grainy like H like ISO on a camera like when you ramp up the iso and I'm in my bed and I have this feeling much like I do in lucid dreams where I can just fly and
[00:29:00] I haven't done that since a long time I haven't flown in a very long time my dreams I used to fly all the time and but I'm in my bed right so I'm like huh I have the same feeling so I just start lifting off and I'm lifting I'm lifting I'm lifting I'm maybe three feet out of my bed when it Dawns on me that I'm flying in my [ __ ] room and the terror that I felt you have to understand people are like why were you afraid imagine you started flying right now
[00:29:30] right now not when you're asleep right now so the important thing is that it's a difference between like you know you're not W up I woke up from a nightmare to be in my bed now I know that there's the whole Inception thing where you wake up into a dream into a dream this did not feel like that it did not feel like that to this day I I you know anyways I I get scared I get scared I'm like no no no and I slam back into my body I then come to I'm in my room it's darker now I can't see anything
[00:30:00] very strange I could see a second ago I can't see anything now crazy I get up my heart's beating pounding I drink some water I was very shaken I was like what a wild dream but I I I'm so affected by it because I'm like normally when you come out of a dream you're like oh that was just a dream this didn't feel like that I was like God that's so strange so the next next day I'm like let me try this again see if this goes anywhere cuz I talked to some people about it I was like really [ __ ] bizarre happened to me they're like go a drink I was like yeah okay popped another melatonin went
[00:30:30] to bed woke up same thing familiar gray buzzing everything yeah and I'm like here we go again I'm in my bed this time I lift out and I'm going up I'm about four feet above my bed e easier to to to get there uh same okay it wasn't hard to to lift out I've never had a hard time uh you know flying in dreams okay so I lift out I'm above the bed this time I turn around like rot yeah exactly like turn my gaze okay and
[00:31:00] I see me yeah and I I remember saying to myself don't be scared don't be scared this time we're in it we're doing it and I see me and oh my God the fear the sheer Terror that grips you is paralyzing imagine I'm talking to you right now and imagine I go hey Nelson look at that and you look and it's just you sitting there yeah that's how scared I was it was real this time I I'm floating back to my body I'm like swimming back to my body and I remember
[00:31:30] feeling myself interfacing with my body like I felt me coming into myself yeah like like it was like I felt this like if you do this with your fingers that's kind of what it felt like okay okay and I I go in but this time I I I my body's here let's say I go here and then I go lower and now I'm like four inches past I'm like no no no no no no no and it frightened me even more and I get back in my body wake up sort of like so scared because now I'm like I didn't know you can go down I didn't know down
[00:32:00] was an option yeah what's there I knew up was an option what's down I don't want to go down how far can you go terrified terrifying terrifying I start googling this stuff and turns out the symptoms that I had are really um shared by a lot of people the from The Sounds the vibrations everything I didn't know anything about aob body experience I didn't know that's what I had yeah yeah I I couldn't make sense of it until I started really accepting the fact that oh this this is
[00:32:30] what Joe mcmonagle was talking about this is what Ed Dames was talking about and and then sort of everything synchronized and fell into place to where you know we got to go experience that over there I want to ask you sorry for rambling was there a point in your retreat where anyone had a real outof body experience um I think it might have been me it sounded like there were more going on at yours in terms of that and or maybe
[00:33:00] people who have had experiences prior right but nobody had had an experience prior really from what I understood wow everybody except save two or three people had multiple experiences prior but you know maybe the curators that the creators that they curated you know they're more of that realm um you know our group was average people you know that all sorts of backgr mostly people who were just curious you know about not
[00:33:30] necessarily obes actually I don't think anybody was there to say hey I want an OB I think that might have been more me than anybody um really at least the start you know um and curiosity of of just beyond the self uh the physical self but um yeah nobody really talked about it they had a very profound experiences and I I said this as a trainer I was like I came here more with this intention of having obes and that's what I thought this was all about but it was like a very tiny part of it in the
[00:34:00] end um cuz it was uh it was the Gateway program yeah and the first step of Gateway is focus 10 yeah and focus 10 is readily used for out of body yeah it is the Mind awake body asleep that is the out of body State you know from there it's expanded awareness no time you know the intergalactic Highway all that stuff yeah but uh yeah that's interesting but I had a had a few experiences I I I it wasn't what I
[00:34:30] expected fully um but I did have some I would categorize them as obes for sure yeah so um because I I know that there is Ary told me one of the trainers there that they you know because I was always like oh out of body is the way to go out of body is what I want and he's like out of body is fine but the amount of things that you can do with just projecting your Consciousness or a part of your consciousness uhhuh and he's like that's not necessarily out of body but it's