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[00:00:00] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of debriefed today we will be talking about today first of all I'm joined by a really good friend of mine you guys know him already this is Nelson
[00:00:30] dallis um Nelson and I both did The Retreat for the Gateway experience at the Monroe Institute and this is really our first time talking about it on camera and in real life like we saved this conversation back uh before we get into this guys I would encourage you to check out the patreon for extra content including extra episodes of debriefed and not to mention all the full interviews the uncut interviews from the last documentary series that we did and
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[00:01:30] goes a long way all right without any further Ado welcome Nelson what's up how you doing what's up I'm good man good to see you good to see you feel like we're different people now yeah that could that couldn't be more true Jesus absolutely it's been I mean there's there's been so many so many so many so many synchronicities and changes uh since I've gotten back and I'm sure the same for you oh yeah um
[00:02:00] at this point uh when we're talking only I've only uploaded one episode of the uh sort of the Gateway program uh to my channel but this will be coming out after the whole thing's done okay so they'll be up to speed on everything uh let's start with before because I WR an interesting article um this was on LinkedIn and it was the Monroe Institute and they had an article based on
[00:02:30] the if you look back and I wanted to mention this and I held back but if you look back at the previous weeks leading up to this how many things had to line up and how many things were preparing you for this experience okay yeah and if you look back now can you think of any yeah I mean I think even the circumstances to which I found myself like even considering going I mean I know the first time I thought oh it would be cool to do do this with you or
[00:03:00] whatever at all um was when we were with Joe last last Joe mcmonagle last year and he mentioned that we could do a course with him or at least to visit the Institute I was like yeah yeah yeah I'll probably never really have a time to do that like I don't know if it's on my radar had the same feeling and uh even when you told me that you were going to do this Creator week or that it was even a thing you know I was actually accepted because I threw my hat in the ring I was like yeah I got to do it um but I couldn't quite make it work yeah you
[00:03:30] know and I was kind of bummed I was like I wanted to do that with Chris it would have been kind of like the next step in what we're doing but it didn't work out but I I almost I told you this uh that I felt like it was maybe better yeah that I did it or that it was I was supposed to do it on my own you know that it was an experience I needed to like do on my own and so that how that kind of played out was kind of interesting before yeah cuz you um you'd made everything happen but then like things prevented you from yeah from being there cuz uh initially
[00:04:00] uh so the Creator program that they set up was the first time they've ever let creators film the process the Gateway program process and that whole experience it's never been documented From the Inside Yes wow and so Paul cerella who works there you know he's he's been just a great person to uh to talk with because he's the one who really organized all this and is trying to propel Monroe Institute into you know a new era where people are aware of the stuff so it's really cool and I was I reach reached out to Nelson I was like
[00:04:30] we got to do this together and we both said yes we both agreed and then you kind of backed out last minute because you had you know personal family stuff uh you you have a a new a new child yeah it boiled down to child care I mean everything's everything's so uh yeah you had a newborn to take care of and it's not the time to take a retreat no no I mean it my wife's very understanding so it's it's like if we have the help it's cool yeah and I had lined up help but it just it fell through it fell through um
[00:05:00] yeah and then and then we were kind of like one of my little ones was sick and it was really just like all hands needed to be on deck wasn't there something with flights too oh yeah well no well that was something else okay but uh that I tried to organize after a flight got canceled but not to do with the actual oh I see thing um but yeah even just like where I was at uh I felt like like mentally you mean mentally um I I don't think I could have
[00:05:30] gone that week I was just so backed up with work and and so many things on my mind like I was not ready for that so with the extra two three weeks that I had before I went it was my glasses on here I don't know it just was had a different vibe it was like more the right time and I think it worked out I think so too that way you know when I went there it was interesting because there was 13 of us there were supposed to be 19 of us so you obviously weren't the only one who backed out last second uh there was
[00:06:00] really supposed to be 13 of uh 19 of us and uh but we also felt that like that was the perfect amount of people for what we went through and I it just had to work out like that and I feel like if you were there with me I had such a profound like spiritual experience and I never thought I'd hear myself saying this but it was it was a breakthrough and if you were there with me I I don't know if would have happened the same way because you and I both share a similar
[00:06:30] skepticism towards this topic and perhaps if we both you know were in that experience together we might have just I don't know isolated yeah we might have isolated exactly we might have been afraid to show maybe uh a more vulnerable side of us yeah you know what I mean yeah even though even though we're close friends like it's still we we might have just not been as vulnerable for fear of something and and
[00:07:00] yeah so I think you're right I think it had to happen the way it did yeah um you know that being said I had a few weeks leading up to it as well that like i' get I get these signs only thinking back and it happened like there's there's one thing and you know a lot of people might not know this but you know um we're in the process of uh literally downsizing the company and like letting go a whole bunch of whole bunch of people here and and it's been this all happened before you know because I'm just feeling overwhelmed um I was at a Breaking Point
[00:07:30] in my career and in my personal mental state uh where I just took on too much and I was wearing myself thin and it wasn't fun anymore and I was getting to this point where I've been before where I burn out Y and that was all leading up to this and then I remember standing in line at the supermarket here and this is where it really hit me when I looked back on it there was there was a lady in front of me she was paying for her groceries and there was like two ladies behind me who were waiting and the lady was paying her car wouldn't work and
[00:08:00] then she's trying another card it wouldn't work and another one and she's paying cash and this whole ordeal lasted like 4 minutes which is a long time standing line holding you know items sure four minutes a long time um the ladies behind me I felt their energy and I felt I heard them you know kind of like rolled her eyes yeah annoyed right and this lady in front of me was so stressed because she was feeling that energy from them and she was trying to and it wasn't her fault the car was going through lady at the cash register she was like G come on you know and the thought occurred to me instantly like
[00:08:30] we're all just trying to get to the next thing the next thing the next thing the next thing got to hurry up and get to the next thing and then I realized in that moment holy [ __ ] this is the thing this is the thing this is what I've been trying to get to holy [ __ ] and it just dawned on me and I was there holding these items and I remember being in this moment listening to the stupid pop music that was playing on the radio and feeling like I could stay in this moment for hours I was so happy to be in in line at that moment and enjen by this
[00:09:00] lady yeah it was it wasn't even about it was like I was in the present moment for the first time in a long time and it really started shifting everything for me after that and it's after that that I sort of made the decision uh you know with the company and and and that I've been drawing back from posting content on the main Channel and just kind of taking care of my personal mental health yeah and then the retreat yeah uh which which you know we'll get into yeah no the there were a lot of there's been a
[00:09:30] lot of synchron synchronicities happening to me in the last month and a half I mean I I always since getting into remote viewing and stuff like that I've paid more attention but I feel like they've ramped up like whoo oh yeah in the last month and a half I briefly told you but um the week before I was supposed to go was the opening to the was the Belmont races at uh the racetrack in my little town that I live yes and I uh I do this
[00:10:00] for fun sometimes I'll just predict the the winner of a race uh with remot Vie with remot viewing yeah like a kind of a shorthand version of it but it I win 25% of the time I get it right 25% of the time and how many and and what are the odds of you winning 25% of the time I think if you roughly calculate it it's probably like 10% so you should you should be winning 10% of the time through guess if you just guess randomly because there's 10 horses more or less sometimes horses get scratched some have long there's more horses in a race whatever but on average I'd say
[00:10:30] there's about 10 horses and you're winning a quar of the time which is way more actually yeah um and and so that day was the Belmont there's many races that day but the Belmont is the big one uh with the biggest stakes and all that stuff and the big the Hotes yeah yeah so I hadn't won that day but that that race um I actually had predicted it with my little horse group that we have going on um you have a group of horses well people who who make predictions on these random horse races and we don't bet we
[00:11:00] just kind of like gather data and see if it aligns we're all doing the same kind of remote viewing thing awesome and I predicted uh black I think it was um which happened to be this horse named door knock Underdog yeah nobody was even talking about it you know CU before you predict a lot of often times because you don't know who the colors are associated to Prior exactly because then you'll be front loaded yeah I know nothing about horses I don't even know anything about horse racing really so they all have colors and those colors aren't the same colors every race no no they're switched