(TMI-ARMY Files) 1978 - GRILL FLAME (RV)

--- PAGE 1 (OCR) --- MON: SUB: MON; SUB: MON: SUB: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: —_ TRANSCRIPT This will be a interview for 0900 hours 18 Oct 1983. Relax and concentrate now. Relax and focus your attention solely and completely on: 37.1 degrees north et 90.8 degrees west 5 37.1 degrees north ; 9 90.8 degrees west hati Describe this area to me. seeeseesRolling hills,..brown, this is a ce mountains,..very tall, forests. ...See a top of a cone. ......Cone shape. ......See high walls of stone. = Okay let's try to focus a little bit better in the area. Move two miles east. - ---It's ina flat plateau area, ..small city. Say again. Small city. Okay, um. From this small city, north, northeast 5 miles. i “ ras won Impression of water. me fea Bea Okay. From the water, now, from the water Ht northwest 7 miles. From the northwest 7 miles. Cy Eten g Just keep circling a peak. All right. Acquire the peak. 3 Okay. All right. 1lt's very tall. I'm interested in one more movement exercise here --- PAGE 2 (OCR) --- SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB; MON: SUB: MUN: SUB: MUN: SUB: MON: SUB: from the mountain peak, from the mountain peak. 100 miles north, northwest, 100 miles north, northwest from the mountain peak. oe It's the middle of a very rugged mountain chain. “,..Just get a very desolate feeling. Okay. May have, you know, mirror image. Try going the opposite direction from your last movement. Acquire the mountain peak and go 100 miles in the opposite direction. Okay. I keep getting a...a runway, airport,..more like a..flight plans, right-of-ways. Okay. Let me check something now about where we want to be. We want to be, based on what you told me, we want to be right now 100 miles north, northeast of the mountain peak. We want to be 100 miles north, northeast of the mountain peak. seeeeeeeeeeIt'sS just I keep getting nothing but input of...rugged mountain chain. Um, um. Green, a lot of green forests. Okay. Return to the mountain peak and let's talk for a moment. Okay. Envision in your mind a compass dial vectoring. Okay. Okay. Now, from the mountain peak placing the center of the compass on the mountain peak, 1 was in error in telling to go north, northwest, then I> asked you to mirror image, okay, .and everything is screwed up. So let's start over again. a Okay. From the mountain peak, from the mountain peak 100 miles north, northeast. It's flat open area, looks like desert but there's some scrub brush, large rock, ghost town, vicinity. dangers tT t --- PAGE 3 (OCR) --- MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB; MON: SUB: MON; SUB; MON; SUB: MON: SUB: MON: Okay, from 10,000 feet. seoeeeeTt'S........ just a large pile of rocks. Okay. --Surrounded by desert,.. desert area. Okay, return to the mountain peak, Okay. Return to the water. “ Okay. All right, now we have a CEP of several miles here, yl . he et but maintaining the water as a central focus point, «~ Okay? And the cEP here, we're teady to do a time movement exercise, Okay. Move now through time at the water site within Several miles of the water site, move now to an event of 27 March 1973, 27 March 1973, stteceeeeeeJUSt See a...white streak of light. .across my northwest (mumble). seeceeese See some others, three or four...seems to go to the ground and stop. .....Sits blinking....1looks like an explosion...some kind of violent explosion,...but it's a strange form, it's a... folds in instead of out. -+-Getting like a strange a...wait a minute..... like an abnormal energy Source of some kind...folds in instead of Out....like a dematerializing...see a..other streak going away to the mountain, turning sharp. tight,. +-heading south, southwest. teaceceeeenees SEE Ase two others, now they're just lights,..like cones hovering. .., +eAh,..ah..Wait a minute. I'm having trouble..... Break out trouble. Keep trying to get close and I can't, it's like a... something strange about time, different time formats, I don't understand, wait a minute. 27 March 1973, --- PAGE 4 (OCR) --- v ha ee af SUB: fake aes tru) ice sojiace suo)» The light's hollow,....like reflection. +See a...spun..spun, spindles, ah..... multiple figure eights tied together.” I'm getting really confused. ayers auerdaes Flash of a figure...stunned, ..stunned. secales @ Place is right date, lights are wrong date. ......It's like one's not... ah..one's not a....real participant in reality. .......i'm turning a light into a large disk or oblong,.. it's changing shape. MON: Describe. SUB: Syehtel Sie Talk Gasol tele a million spider like tendrils of light and single arches all spinning. ...Silver and metallic interior. ...Then it goes away. It's like it's not really there. It's two places. See a...shelf way, runway...with light beams shooting through. Keep getting impression I'm being followed by someone else, figure in silver,.. curiosity, keeps staring. w MON: Describe figure. SUB: No face, impression of human,... keeps pointing at S me,..SayS nothing. Ah....ah...interesting ray of light comes from his chest and then stops just away, away from me. He goes out of this place to another place. »-Now he's a...nhe's confused,.. \ sense of wonderment for...lack of fear or something. ...Interesting. ..As I got two figures OW. ..0- MON: Describe. SUB: Ah..s. identical...... . feel like they communicate, ...trouble with touching that. Mmm. alee ss ah..they a..a....ah..don't need time anymore, .-time's wrong..you'r timing's wrong. ..Doesn't matter. ...Ah, feetifg of...Got a really strange feeling....ah, ah. ah shit I don't know. aye eee ee Mm, just, a..winked out, everything just winked Gut.” ...s5 1 just lost something here.. : MON: Go find it. SUB: eeeeeeeee-Oh.... just get a ...a.... star pattern, see the corner of the big dipper,.. I'm just standing on the ground looking up at the corner of the big dipper, ... just doing nothing. ... A --- PAGE 5 (OCR) --- MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB; Okay. I'm interested in going back to the time when you talked about being in two places at once, that--uh--something about not being here, being someplace else. Mm, yes ah..... I can tell by your voice that you're not on site again. No, L just lost it, it winked. All right, go back to the time before it winked and tell me when you have acquired the site again. seeeeeeeeeeMm...It's not there. seoecceeee TL can't, it's not there, it's--I'm not getting anything. Okay, fine. +e+.-So 1 get a... just remembrance... but a. 1 can understand you've broken from the site and it's hard to acquire again. Ioa......1 can get to the site, I'm just having trouble finding the.....place I was at. 5000000 It's like it's all there but it's not there, I don't understand that. Okay. I want to see if you can acquire something, 1 don't know if you can or not. You say that in review here--you have some streaks of light, and you have some stationary light, you have maybe exploding or imploding light. And then you have a concept that the light is here and someplace else at the same time. Yes. Describe that other place. «.-Let me access it. I will wait. Hee e reece ees eseeveeeeveeeeel keep, I go tO a... ~Small light room and..then I'm not allowed any further, '1 keep getting sent back. sees But I --- PAGE 6 (OCR) --- MON: SUB: MON: MON: SUB; MON: MON: SUB: MON: don't know how that's happening, I keep trying to 90 again and 1 wing Up in a small light room. J leave, go back over here, Okay, that would be an image implanted in your head On purpose, because your father is an authority figure. Go beyond that now. tseeee..0h, tough, I can't, Ah...O0h,.1 going to stop Playing with this for a minute. Mini. Gece. Okay, I just had @..some very Primitive thing touched on here that a... Okay. sence (Sigh). .Sioh...an. just Teally fear generating type primitive things, no substance, just the Feelings, ++e(Sigh). wait a second...., That's all 1 can do here for now, I ah-- Okay, what does that tell you when that happened? answer of "yz Tecognize that", And that's not necessary to Communicate that way. Oh geez whow.....Wheeeo..., Okay. We're back now at October 19g3-- Alright...Sure want to puke, laying on your back..., Okay, I'li Put the tape recorder on hold now. Oh wow-- * Now ask yOu, now that you're not on the site anymore and you're back and relaxed and feeling a bit more secure, and ask you what you learned or what was this about, because [ don't understand the things you told me? \ / --- PAGE 7 (OCR) --- SUB: MON: SUB; MON: SUB; MON: SUB: MON: wo Se D MON: SUB: MON: SUB; MON: ex sel ah....feel like there was like a.., I'm not sure I can explain it all, but I feel like there was like..two Overlapping times in Space,.., but two Overlapping Tealities Occupying the exact place Are you saying that the event of 1973 is-- ==Lt 'Sireai <= I went..1 sent you to a Particular point in, on the Globe at a Particular time and ask you to report Something that may have happened at that time-- --And what is it that happeneg, this thing that you're telling me now? ++Yes and it's Perceived that ®ach reality can Perceive the Other, so there's a Cause effect relationship, Ukay. ! And 1 Perceive that I crossed, like a threshold, one reality to the other, Well,..no, this is when I started seeing the figure that was-~ Oh, okay, so it was after you Crossed this barrier, and then you-~ EE t7Pointing at me--that J became aware of the Figure-- | --All right. --- PAGE 8 (OCR) --- MON: MON: SUB: ‘ --in metallic substance or what appeared to be metallic substance and then--- --And a (mumble) substance? Yes. In the shape of? +-A whole lot of things I can't relate to. Okay. The figure I could relate to 'cause it was like an outline or a form and it was shimmering and it had like substance to it, but light, like it was all moving, all little pieces moving, like it was vibrating and that's when I sensed a totally different energy. And then there was a communications of some kind which I couldn't perceive other than it was a communications between one figure and another, which appeared to be identical. The first figure attempted to touch me with a light. And just before it reached me it vanished and then the other figure appeared, and there was a communications of somekind. And then I felt like I was disoriented for a second. And then the whole thing folded in on itself and. went away, it was like one reality just ceased. And I was looking for it and I couldn't find it and then you said something, 1 can't remember what it was you said, then 1 found myself standing on the ground and looking at the big dipper. And then you said something else-- Okay, after standing on the ground and looking at the big dipper, then 1 said to you, I gave a review of what you told me, and 1 said that you were telling me that this light was here and some other place at the same time-- Oh, then I, then I found myself in a box, a room, a white room with no doors, no windows-~ I asked you to describe the other place where this was. Yeah, and 1 kept, 1 would appear in this box and then I would like not want to be there. And I would appear in the box and I would not want to be there and it was like flashing in and out. --- PAGE 9 (OCR) --- MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: SUB: MON: Okay. And then I said, "That's not Teal, stay and I Stayed and then I had an image of my father, saying, "You can't stay here." Do you remember me Saying anything to you during this time? No, I just, I remember the image of my father was really clear. And, but it was a loving image, you know, it wasn't a revengeful or hateful, or authoritative or it was, you know, as I remember him in his living image, saying, "Go away, you can't stay here." Okay, whatever, then what? And then I remember going back and saying no,