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1986-01-25 - EML-31 (Raw Transcript) 00:05 This is session 156 to session 31 with e m l on 125 86 seems to be a slow process today that's fine we can be very relaxed about what happens when your point of view I guess we experience is one of not trying to make anything happen just let it go. I have gone through several theories of vibration and like I'm beginning to feel the like a pattern of beginning to feel my left side of my excuse me the right side of my head more recognize these a series of steps happen each time we need to try to hurry it. 02:12 I get to a point where I hear the Good afternoon. Good. That's always a good time to welcome over to our session. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Oba we're very pleased to to feel your presence again. 03:21 Evelyn seemed to feel this process was a little slow this afternoon. Oh this is a concern of her. I expected since she she feels that since this is the last session in the lab for a while that she wants to make use of every moment. 03:55 That is true. She is experiencing change. She is beginning to become aware of what she is doing. 04:45 Do you mean aware of the the change in the process as you come in into communication with us 05:00 I'm talking about in general progress on for us will involve changes for Evelyn. 05:20 She, in our discussion after the session this morning, she seemed to feel quite aware of some changes in her since yesterday without being quite able to describe what those changes were with a strong sentiment 05:47 she feels very unsettled. Like the expression she can't put her finger on it. But she is encouraged by the fact that things don't seem to be changing 06:25 is the fear of this experience disappeared for her completely 06:38 as a part of that she recognizes as a fear right, yes. 06:52 Do you imply there that she there are other fears of which he is not aware? 07:04 It is not as though she has a steadfast affairs that continue it is that as each change is made, she has to deal with new ones that arise. 07:30 So it's continually something new for her to adjust to Yes. 07:49 I would like to bring more energy in 07:57 Do you feel that you are bringing more energy in the new you were able to say the beginning of this week? 08:13 I have maintained a fairly steady level. 08:29 So that if the changes made so that you are able to bring more energy in the soil be something that takes place after everyone has returned to her home? If that's the case, 08:48 I was referring to now. 08:53 Yes, you'd like to bring more energy in No. Was that what you meant? Yeah. Is there some way in which this can happen? 09:07 This involves the third fourth. 09:12 Yes, very good. Ready to experience 09:30 or Yes. Since I left function now And this is a rather what you might call restricted way. My communication with the third or fourth, give me information that normally would be available to me. The reason that all of me is not available to me is that all of me that is here and now is available also to Evelyn. And if I were to bring all of me in, that's what caused a chaos for Evelyn. 11:22 I see that very interesting. 11:29 It would be quite overwhelming. 11:36 I'd see I hadn't understood before this, that was the reason for only part of you being available. How does that work? Then with the third fourth? Is information available in the third fourth, that does not is not available to everyone? 12:01 Yes, it is only available to me. 12:06 But it is available to you while you are with Evelyn. 12:09 Yeah. She can be aware of it. But she is not directly involved with it as she is with my energy. 12:42 Already, she begins to wonder about how she is going to handle these changes. 12:57 Is she worried about that in the sense that they will be represent some interference in her in her life? Or is it more a question of her physical body being able to handle the vibrations of the energy? 13:17 It is at the social level involves considerable change. You must realize that nothing is the same for everyone now. Yes, it's hard pressed to think about what all of those changes might be. She mentioned this morning that there would be there was a significant change in her interest in the school program that she was attending. Yes, 14:16 that would imply some changes in her thinking about her career. 14:28 back as well as on the every day, moment to moment level of this has made her tired. And she was concerned with that. 14:49 Hurt retired just to think about the implications of these changes. 14:54 It has made her tired trying to Just to the difference in how she is seeing and experiencing her world. This is very helpful for Evelyn. She is hearing that she was concerned about her tiredness. 15:33 Yes, this is the explanation, you're talking about the tiredness in a in a physical thing. Yeah. When, when you speak here of the impact of the changes on the social impact, I guess they're the references to her relationships with all the people that she knows and work with her family and so on. 16:27 She is not with her family at the moment, she is here now. And she was very much aware of the change in her just functioning and now she will have to deal with the other also about and she has not reached that point or she has not thought of that 17:02 time here is the way to go. Are you right now using the third fourth in our our discussion? 17:28 No, I am not before I can judge situation and determine how much of me can be present. And so, I check back with the third floor. 17:59 I see the the third force then is letting you know how much of you can be available in Evelyn and that creates a create anxiety or something of that sort 18:15 of create a flooding of too much at one time. 18:21 Too much information. 18:25 Evelyn will have my perceptions which are quite different from her own. This cannot be done overnight. 18:42 So this is a gradual process of letting her become more and more are aware of more and more of you. Yes. Is there any way for us to understand it would it be possible for you to give an example of the the kinds of things that there would be easy for everyone to to understand now. the sorts of things that might be postponed Oh, what what are you referring? Well, I understood you to say that there will be a gradual increase in the amount of view available to everyone that some of it is available on Now and over time that will increase. And I was wondering whether I've tried to get an understanding of that by seeing if there is an example of the ease of use of the sorts of things that might be later available to her but not available now. 20:32 will be quite able to travel as we have done together 20:44 that would be something that would come along later. Yeah. The traveling that she did with you, while you were here in the lab, was made possible by the presence of the third energy. 21:12 I know I was exploring with Evelyn 21:39 it was it wasn't during this exploration that you felt that it was somewhat difficult for everyone to have the third and fourth present. Would you repeat that? I understood you just say this morning that the energy of the third, third fourth needed to be introduced rather gradually and with concern for everyone's ability to be comfortable with that. That correct. 22:25 I think there is a misunderstanding is the third force is involved in determining how much of my energy is available to Evelyn not that of the third fourth 22:51 Yes, I did understand that from our earlier conversation it's afternoon and listeners did that before. So that let me see if I understand now that the the travel that you and everyone did the other day was a was it was a trial to see if she was able to handle Enough of your your energy to make that trip possible. 23:35 Oh, I see as a confusion now. I was referring to the trip Evelyn and I made some time ago. 24:02 Well syndigate indicated a few minutes ago that one of the changes might have one issue, they will see to to handle more of your information. More of your energy will be that she will be able to to travel in ways that she is not traveling now. 24:45 He will be able to explore as I can explore. However, you will only be able to explore My face, she will not be able to create the new space where I am, she will not be able to add that to my growth in my face. 25:27 pricey, but this will be she will be growing because she will be increasingly able to utilize or understand some of your energy. Yeah. Would it ever be possible for Evelyn to communicate with the third energy other than through you? 26:26 That seems impossible. Some, somewhat often the future 26:37 future this would occur by Evelyn, exploring my realm, which would lead Evelyn to the realm of the third or fourth 27:24 when you speak there of her exploring your realm that's beginning to occur is beginning to occur now. Yes. And that will that will be increasing as you are able to make more and more of yourself available to her? Is that the way that will work? 27:55 Yeah. You know, as we have these terrorist nations, I often feel that not really well, all my questions seem to be in the direction of trying to understand who you are, and how you relate to Elon and how you relate to all other things. And I have the feeling that I it's very difficult for me to capture the important questions and sometimes feel quite stuck in trying to feel like I'm asking trivial questions. And wonder if there's any way for you to point me in a direction that would be more productive of, of our understanding. 29:34 I hear your question. I need more information from you, as well. What do you consider a significant 30:12 well I guess the overriding questions that we have are Who are you and what is your life and how can we learn about you and first the second part of that is always looking at your interactions and the interactions of others at your level with those of us who are formed 30:56 I know that at the moment I am what I am is is Evelyn I am occupying space between Evelyn Riyadh atoms of SLM molecule or atom Evelyn is not too clear on scientific terms well it's confusing though. And so this is what I am I am another place I do have experience to me and other places. places we're on here I got our our concept here. Again, I wouldn't be different 32:34 have I experienced you and in other places you have worth our travels are you speaking about your travels with airborne Yes. I have worked with them remain during our session here and 33:23 yes. I am bringing information to everyone. He asked all my questions and response to yours. At that moment, when I was Evelyn senses of that information, I am that information. And that is how she is able to sense it. 34:26 So you're saying your energy may take a different forms. In this way. 34:34 My energy may intertwine and bring into awareness. I am no I am always the same. It's just a different configuration. I have nothing so stable. As a person like your, like your Evelyn 35:13 is very good you are there for a greater thing. That's why when we try to put a label on you like teacher something like this, it doesn't really work. Because the energy is is dynamic and moving and ever changing. 35:39 Sometimes you need the, in fact functioning like a teacher, and other times functioning like the information itself. 35:56 I could not function as a teacher in your lives, because I do not store information which I've been giving out. 36:20 I, I emerge with that information, which makes it available to Evelyn 36:29 and it is your energy flow that would then carry that information into her. 36:41 That is the point at which Evelyn and I meet it is a somewhat of the same for the third or fourth and that I am occupying the information Everland which is then available to the third fourth. 37:31 Now, this is the third fourth function then in the same way you do