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hey thanks for catching the bad guy they they wouldn't know any of this stuff right all they all they knew was they kept coming back right and I think that that you know is enough to boost your confidence yeah for sure for sure so on the note of this weird but highly novel and interesting maybe it's not super novel because most of the things in The forchan Whistleblower test testimony if you want to call it that are you could chalk them up to being
riffs off of existing lore for sure yes but it's interesting enough and I and I feel like you towed this line well in your videos that it's interesting enough to pay attention to and there are some things that are worth considering and paying attention to and keeping in mind for the future as disclosure continues to slowly uh roll down the hill as it seems to be um so was there anything in that testimony in particular that made
you think about the Whistleblower stuff the only supped whistleblower yeah there so there weren't a lot of answers given true you know a lot of the stuff we already knew uh what people were saying I think it was in the reluctance to answer some of these questions which we gained more information right uh you know especially with Lou alzando you know where they asked him were you a part of a crash retrieval team and he goes I can't
answer that right and then and then which country uh did the first crash retrieval H I can't answer that and then it became oh lock so basically you have these private corporations that are reverse engineering you know this technology um if something were to be reverse engineered that came from the ocean you would give it to a certain company he said yes and then mace goes so what about Lockheed Martin do they work with
things in the ocean and he goes ah yeah uh I can't uh that's a good question uh and he just couldn't answer I thought that was probably the most revealing thing that happened was knowing that lockeed Martin is also potentially reverse engering things that come from the ocean and and monitoring the ocean we often think of Boeing and lock heat as like these you know Space Giants yeah uh but uh really interesting to know
that they're also you know interested in what goes on in the water yeah and there there's always this weird there's always this weird thing when they come up where people say something to the effect of they're a great company aren't they yeah that that happened in as the whistle blower onfor yeah and I wonder if that's supposed to be a subtle nod nod to like if you disparage them or you come at them they will they might they might do something
back and you don't yeah yeah I mean I wouldn't put it past him I mean in that Boeing kind of made people disappear didn't they yes they did that's what I was going to say and I'm like man I don't I don't want that smoke I'm a little I'm a little dude in a room I'm not I'm not ready to go up against any defense contractor goons or legal threats I'll tell you that but the truth must come no um it it's super interesting man and it's
one of those things that is so endlessly seductive but frustrating because it's it's Mercurial territory it's right at the edge it's beyond the edge of human understanding clearly um and it just leads you down this like fun house Hall of Mirrors where pretty soon you're in some pretty far-flung territory uh but I certainly can't help but pay attention and I'm GNA be I'm gonna be staying tuned for and and I do wonder if there's ever going to be
future testimonies again um have you heard anything about well I mean right after about a week after they had a they had Arrow testify John kazlowski who's the new head of Arrow who replaced Sean Kirkpatrick um they basically had a senate hearing with senator gilbran from New York and like two other senators and nothing it was a big nothing Burger it's typical Arrow Behavior Uh they explained away the goast video to being a balloon
with Parallax effect uh they explained away the agadia video which is The The Uso this sort of craft leaving an exting they said that's also a balloon I don't I don't know of any balloon that goes in and out of water but cool um so you know it was a lot of that um but I do think the next time we have a hearing I think I speak for everyone especially Congress uh when I say we need a firsthand witness we need someone who's
touched the material and we need to be able to protect them I think that's the most important thing right now and I think that's why we're not getting whistleblowers I don't think they feel safe and for great reason you know I I don't think it is safe for them to come out right now I don't think anything is being put into place to protect these people enough you know if these people Harbor this type of information that is
Paradigm shifting on a world scale enough reason to take someone out of the equation you know uh for sure so definitely you know I hope I hope I live to see the day where a firsthand whistleblower other than Bob Lazar right you know comes out of the woodware because I still believe Bob but that's close to my heart yeah I was going to bring him up at some point in the conversation but I wonder I wonder how we get around that maybe it's a safety
and numbers type thing maybe we need like a dozen people at the same time to come forward or so many that it's just impossible to silence all of them or very difficult at least to silence all of them but I was just going to say it's it's usually the second person who's more Brave right like once we have a whistleblower it's it's it's like uh it's like when you see a dancing experiment and somebody's dancing and he's trying to get other people to dance
but it's a second person that starts dancing who's like actually more Brave than the first person absolutely he's like hey I'm gonna follow this crazy yeah absolutely yeah human psychology is just you can extrapolate that example right there across human psychology in so many ways um what I was going to ask though is do you have any sense or even just fun conspiracy theories in terms of you know again people have mixed feelings on
Lou alzando anytime I even mention him there's like this weird Kur fuffle in the comments about you know people's opinions on him I'll be straight up I find him to be pretty convincing I it feels like he's doing it for the right reasons but I guess if you were a professional at that you'd be good at projecting that sort of a Vibe but but anyway you know he always alludes to their being these multiple forces within the Pentagon multiple forces within the
government some that want disclosure some that don't do you have any sense of who the ones that don't want it are or do you think they're completely unknown groups or groups within groups or what have you heard or what do you think yeah I first of all I think uh I think anyone talking with such Authority needs to be scrutinized yeah um you know so that being said I've read Lou's book I've looked into him I've spoken to him he's a standup guy
but he's also someone who was hired for Counter Intelligence right you know so I wouldn't put it past him to be sort of playing a role uh and I think you know that isn't a secret you know it's not something I'd hide from him if if you know if I if I spoke to him about it I'd be like yeah like obviously people are going to have their doubts especially with that type of background um you know that being said I can't say whether what he says is true
or not or whether he's you know this funnel for information I have no idea I can only speculate um but what I can also speculate on I think the way that things are happening is that there is a labyrinth there is a center to this Labyrinth right and I think everyone's trying to get to that Center people like Lou included people like Hal put off you know so many people are trying to get to that Center very very few people are at
that Center the one thing that kind of sticks out to me is the people who don't know want to know and the people who do know don't want anyone else to know right so mathematically I look at that and I'm like well that must mean I can I can assume that whatever the truth is might be terrible yeah I mean if you're somebody who wants to know and you end up knowing and then instantly don't want anyone else to know right what does that say
right it it says something possibly terrifying you know so whatever whatever that is that they don't want people knowing and these are you have to imagine these are very intelligent people these are people who are you know potentially at the highest level of intelligence uh the United States has to offer you know chosen from you know Mena programs and and Ivy League schools to work in intelligence to assess problems and find Solutions and if these people
deem it dangerous unnecessary uh or otherwise you know scary to to tell the public of what the actual truth is then you have to question you have to be like dang you're right what are we talking about here what's I can't even imagine a scenario that's too scary to tell the public I was just going to ask you what do you think some of the scariest possibilities are I mean one of them obviously is some kind of supernal thing that whatever these are
they're malevolent or they're malicious or they're so far beyond our capabilities to deal with that we're completely at their mercy and we just have to hope that they don't decide to do whatever it is that they could do to us I guess that could also just be true with super advanced technology they don't even have to be yeah Supernatural for that but obviously there's that other you know there's that other thing there's there's a whole bledo angle to
it right there's the spiritual phenomenon angle in both its benevolent and terrifying twists um and by the way I saw that Chris bledo was in the building during the during the hearing there are pictures posted of him there and and immediately I'm like why is he there like what I mean is he just there because he's he was yeah go he was there he was there with someone from NASA I believe I think that's what I I met some
person that he was with and I think I think she was from NASA uh but I said hi to him it was good to see him you know he's such he's such a loving guy um and I think I think I like seeing him there because I I do feel like there are two facets to this UAP you know conundra and and both sides are opposing yeah and for both of those sides to be in the same room I thought was really interesting yeah so i' I've had Ryan on the show since you and I
spoke last he's got his POV um and I wonder now as someone who has without putting you in a sticky situation of like you know him him being a homie and you know you being friends with that family how do you negotiate that line between this being a technological or extraterrestrial phenomenon and and a spiritual one do you leave room for both do you lean toward one or the other do you think it's multiple things going on yeah uh
great question and you know this is something I've talked to Ryan with at length as well and uh he knows how I feel about this I will forever I didn't have the experience his father had right right and so really strange to ask someone to to do you know to to follow a certain you know uh order a certain you Dogma for lack of a better term without having that experience you know and I think Ryan's smart enough to understand that
uh through our conversations I've I've understood that he understands my perspective of being someone who is still skeptical right um but I reserve a portion of my skepticism to both sides equally as much as I also reserve room for spirituality I think it's important to not rule out the spiritual yeah and I think we've made that mistake too many times in the last several hundred years um you know and it it's nothing good