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A BREAKTHROUGH in UFO Disclosure? & The Magic of the Gateway Process | Chris Ramsay

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of Blazing with these questions already they probably were down a few rabbit holes that night but uh sure but yeah so that was and then you know uh we broke apart I went to the uh afterwards I went to a UAP disclosure fund which is like a a private company that's trying to raise money for whistleblowers to come out and shook a lot of hands there and and that was mainly my uh my experience man that it's it's first it just has to be so surreal to be there and second you know obviously there everybody online who's into this they want something crazy they want a Smoking Gun they want some piece of Arcane material produced or they want I don't know they want somebody to bring out like a cryogenically frozen alien head or some but I had to just sort of remind myself in the macro during the hearing and right after just how weird it is that this is even happening for one and also just small things like I took a of this when I was watching it within the first few minutes phrases like non-human intelligence and extraterrestrials were being openly used whereas I felt like before they would use much more innocuous ambivalent language you know like just just saying UAP or just unidentified aerial phenomenon or whatever it is but now it's just like it's slowly seeping into the Zeitgeist and the the collective psychology in a way where these words are just getting thrown around much more casually I agree and if there really is like a slow roll disclosure occurring that's how it's going to happen it's going to be slowly normalized through repetition of saying things and discussing ideas and escalating going up the chain like it's not just whistleblowers saying this it's actual members of Congress that are using these phrases that used to be relegated to like the fringes of the internet right and like super you know uh you know beyond toop secret.com or whatever back in the day and um yeah yeah so one I just think in the macro that's interesting but two I wanted to specifically on shellburg that whole thing that that whistleblower testimony that he brought out is so crazy and I'm wondering what your thoughts on that is and it's like even the like the you can tell like unless this again I always feel like I have to say this anytime this topic comes up unless this is all scop it seems like there's an incredible amount of energy around even like saying the name of this program like um was it um I forget her name the it was the primary woman who yeah yeah yeah mace she she was saying like apparently I'm on some list even if I say come at me bro yeah yeah even if I say the name of this program yeah that's what she said she she said come at me bro yeah right which is yeah pretty badass yeah yeah what are your what are your thoughts on that and also I'm curious too so this is I'll let you riff with with these two points you also did this multi-art series on the 4chan whistleblower right uh stuff and I'm wondering if there's anything in this hearing that perked up your ears in terms of that that seemed to corroborate anything that you you read in that and we might need to introduce what that forchan whistleblower um Saga is as well yeah yeah uh first of all um yeah the immaculate constellation document uh I also read through that uh made a video about that sort of reading through the entire thing and what first struck me is how dismissive the entire Community the UAP UFO Community was of this document I don't think a lot of people have really taken the time to read it because I think there was some very valuable information in there obviously like you said it wasn't a Smoking Gun and it is I think you know story it's a lot of but it is an official report from an alleged whistleblower that was submitted you know so there is some importance to it and some value to it um now there was some confusion about who uh brought this to Congress uh so there was a little bit of drama that happened that day um so Jeremy Corbell had basically presented the documents to uh representative mace right before the hearing he had also presented it to uh shellenberger he had shellenberger uh read through it and he presented it to um Timber cette as well I think a month before or something so this was Jeremy's document to give he gave in 12 Pages uh 11 pages of you know uh the whistleblowers testimony and then a cover page with his sort of resume on on that once it was submitted to Congress they had a from what I've understood a con uh conversation amongst the congressmen and women uh to remove that cover page because they didn't find it really pertinent to which I kind of agree you know it's like it starts off with like hey my name is Jer M Corbell I have a podcast called weaponized and you know like it it seems to detract a little bit from what we're trying to achieve so I guess they made uh an audible they called an audible to just remove that uh but Nancy had also said there was 12 page uh submitted and now there's 11 and now there's a missing page and the internet's like where's the missing page and what is it um so it turns out uh Corbell actually gave me that missing page that day uh myself and Jesse Jesse ended up tweeting it um so I don't think it has any importance to the immaculate constellation document but I do think for journalistic integrity I do think you know Michael shellenberger should have corrected uh her statement either in a tweet or maybe you know in in in that room uh because she definitely said that Michael shenberger brought and she thanked him for bringing in that document right okay yeah I think I think there was a small correction du that was a little bit of drama other than that the document itself was very interesting because it doesn't only site satellite uh data that they've pulled a Fleer data FMV you know full motion video data but it also uh cites a few human interactions uh with these you know with these UAP and the UAP range from floating brains to boomerangs to uh you know what was it like 600 meter long discs um you know just an in oh and um a cube formation of 12 metallic spheres skimming an HD footage of this skimming the ocean right wow um so and then before breaking apart so all of these you know near misses with uh with pilots and you know all that type of all that type of stuff but one thing that's stuck out to me and this relates a little bit to the 4chan whistleblower thing which I'll get into in a second is 95% of all of this happens near a body of water interesting yeah document yeah so you know I don't know whether that speaks more to the person The Whistleblower being perhaps part of some Naval intelligence or if that's just you know the swing of the pendulum and that's just what these things are doing they're just you know all over the all over the oceans mainly right um so in the previous few weeks I had been reading a really lengthy Q&A that happened on 4chin and not the most reputable platform you know uh but what was really interesting is that this kind of made headlines about a year and a half ago um because the alleged whistleblower that was in this Q&A said that he'd worked for a crash retrieval uh program within the government a top Seeker program monitoring a as he calls it mobile construction youit unit a giant mother ship that lives in the ocean that moves around and it creates UAP to spec depending on their missions sends them out and then takes them back in and that's kind of how that it goes really deep into into details of bodies into abductions into tools into all sorts of stuff um you know take it with a grain of salt obviously but there were definitely some things that stood out in that report that correlated or corroborated the alleged whistleblower's testimony and I would say mainly the main thing is um these things being from the water yeah you know these things coming uh and going into the oceans into some type of underwater base is the idea yeah and and didn't it also say that it printed the pilots themselves as well or that the pilots themselves were sort of these like sing single use beings or something like that I think that was I I think that was uh maybe just speculated okay they what was interesting about the pilots according to the to the 4chan guy was that they discarded the bodies they didn't really care so like if if one of these crafts went down which happened quite frequently apparently uh especially in Mexico there was like this area that had happened uh quite a lot and he said they do make a lot of mist akes by the way um when they went into retrieve the body which was still alive from this crash um they were basically being shot at until the aliens died and then they could go and retrieve it so it's almost like they don't they don't have any regard for their own preservation is what it seems like right and I jumped to that conclusion where if you're going to 3D print and they even said that possibly it looks like they're behaving using some type of AI like these uh most of these are are are not manned by anything and they're kind of like drones and they kind of behave in like this hive mind Ai and I thought well why not also have human biolog or uh humanoid AI or biologics that that act you know in this hive mind manner if we're going towards the future and looking into recreating artificial intelligence eventually I I can assume that we're going to transcend from using nuts and bolts to actually figuring out how the brain works you know and being able to perhaps create some type of soulless AI drone you know yeah by the way I so did Mick monagle show up to your gateway Retreat it was a surprise he did yes he did for us too and um obviously So for anybody that doesn't know Joe mcmonagle legend in the remote viewing Community dubbed remote viewer 001 supposedly the highest hit rate ever in the history of um you know project Stargate where they were uh recruiting all of these um psychic spies essentially so so um we haven't even started talking about the Monroe Retreat yet but but anyway um he came to both mine and Chris's Monroe which Retreat and by the way watch Chris's series and his interviews that he did with Joe they're amazing but I had to he was you know he's riffing as he does regaling us for for many hours and I I had to ask him about UFOs and like what they are what he thinks they are and if he's ever remote viewed one and he said something extremely similar that there that there's something like Ai and that they're I believe he said that they're like biological technological hybrids or something like that um but he was reluctant to say too much and then he kind of launched into another story but but also was saying you know I'm I'm not even really interested in that because not because it isn't interesting but because I can't confirm it and I can remote view hypothetically anything but if I can't but if there's no way to confirm it why would I bother doing that over and over again just drive myself crazy um so I thought that was interesting and a pretty good point honestly because you can just you know even the highest hit rate viewers in history like he is Apparently one of them you still don't know even if you're right 80% of the time there's a 20% of the time or that uncertainty where you can't get the confirmation so you just drive yourself crazy going down any kind of imaginal rabbit hole potentially that's a great I mean that's a great point because uh most people forget that 99% of their targets they never knew the outcome you know these were done by incred L uh secretive means I mean you know 505 missions over 17 of the 19 intelligence agencies and they never got feedback because these missions were top secret they you know the whether it's the dod or the DIA or the FBI or whatever they would just give the Target and take that information back they wouldn't tell them