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nothing about. It's very, very difficult. Whereas this level up here, knows what this one's about
Been there, done that. So the moment that you know what the level below was all about,
you've jumped to the next level, by definition. All right, now, you can see that I've added some
names on these things. And I kind of put them there. Because it's how I work clinically. Alright,
I find it very useful. And every client who comes walking in can understand this as well. Right?
And so, I used to start right here at narcissism. Okay, I used to think of that as the kind of the
lowest level but lately, boy, I'm just seeing people just so afraid and so dependent. And just,
almost, you know, as Maslow said, I mean, just the math, his hierarchy of needs just trying to
get by, alright, just basic survival needs. So I added that level and call it survival. And when
you actually look at these levels, and dependency is there, these actually become normal
levels. In development, it's just that when it becomes the predominant one, there's a problem.
So survival, okay, usually ages zero to two, narcissism, two to four, morality four to six. And
then you wonder about these things that are up here. And that's what I'm really here to talk
about today. Okay. But, you know, just to give you a heads up, I mean, narcissism is just
entitlement all about small self me, you know, you know, if you have children that are two
years old, their favorite words, no, and mine. So, narcissism, small self. And then there's this
level called morality, which is all based on right and wrong and good and bad. Okay. Actually,
Freud said, that's as good as you can get, which is less neurotic. I would hope there's
something more than less neurotic but right and wrong. This is where your feelings exist, for
example. All right, if you live up to an internalized standards, you feel good. If you don't live up
to one you feel bad. Many times we find religion at that level all about the rules. What's right,
what's wrong, what's good, what's bad. Religion, of course, can contain the spiritual essence,
right? But many times in this day and age, it doesn't seem to and that's why I think many of us
are looking for something different. And then there's this thing called ethics. All right, and so
many times We have in our practices, we have something called ethics boards. They're not
ethics boards at all their morality boards, what's right or wrong? What is the standard of care?
They're totally confused. Ethics. Okay, what is best? Okay? And this is the level that for
example, rationality exists that, okay? And so, ethics and then when we look at it, this is all the
creation of ego. And when we transcend ego, I'm going to call that spirituality now. All right,
that's about large s self. Okay, all the rest of this is about small s, self. Alright, spirituality about
unity, integrity, beingness. These are all pretty important things. Right? So that's just the kind
of a piece of the model right now. And, again, Ken Wilber has collected all the cross cultural
studies, and this is a very unpopular thing to say that I'm about to say. So kind of hold on to
your chair. All right. And what he said is that within the world of this kind of ethical, which,
which he called, by the way, these levels, he called it pre conventional, conventional, post
conventional, postmodern, and trans conventional, right. And so, what he said was the number
of people who get to be post conventional, in other words, they live their life from that
perspective, not that you couldn't have a peak experience or some of the time, right, but
consistently live their lives at a post conventional level, in whatever population they studied
was less than 5%. Okay. Now, I must admit that, you know, this is probably pretty much a
group of people who live their lives in a post conventional framework, we talk about
construction of reality, and things like that. But, you know, what I say is that, when you look at
the people that you know, how many people you know, can get past their fear, can move past
their own self interests, and can, you know, do something different than what their society tells
them is the right thing to do? Not that many people really. And so initially, people get angry at
me when I say this kind of thing. I you know, as I said, this was Ken Wilber. But you know,
when you actually look at it, you know, that's quite a step. For many people, and maybe the
numbers of people may be increasing. Now, especially in this country, all right. spiritual people
who live at that level, you know, less than 1%. Live at that level. We're talking about the Dalai
Lama here, we're talking about Christ, we're talking about, you know, I don't I don't live my life
at that level. I think through Hemi sync, I've gotten to see many new and very interesting things
and had some peak experiences and try to spend as much time as I can. But you know,
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I'm thinking about all these other things here. And so spirituality. All righty, maybe I shouldn't
include Bob Monroe there. All right. So again, if you want to take a look at what we're looking
at here, as I'm saying this, I see what you're feeling right now. See, what your mind is saying is
I'm saying these kinds of things. And so Wilber went on to talk about what he called the
spectrum of consciousness, which talked about the idea that our awareness evolves. Okay, it's
not all just the same. All righty. And even spirituality is going to evolve in his model, that there
are different levels. You heard someone talk about non dual today, but the layers will be
psychic, subtle, casual, or causal, I should say, and non dual. And what he brings at that point,
I think, is something that is going to be very, very helpful. But first, just one thing about these
things is that many times in our culture, you got one of them masquerading for something else.
The most famous one, of course, is narcissism with a moral veneer over it. Boy, I don't know
how many times I've seen that. If you've seen the work of Scott Peck, he wrote a beautiful
book called people of the lie the hope of healing human evil, right. And what he said was that
evil which is malignant narcissism always has a veneer of morality over it, because we won't
allow it to exist just raw out in the world. So, again, you could do this for all these different
levels. Okay, but you could look up and, you know, for example, the the television evangelist,
who's basically having his way with the women in, in his church, you know, that's just a veneer
over it. Alrighty. And so, again, Wilbert goes on to talk about the idea that this isn't just, you
know, either you're in every area of your life, either you're, you know, at one of these levels,
but that there are many, many different streams, okay, divides it into 14 and sometimes 20
Something different streams that you could be in, right? And so for example, we all know of
engineers, all right, tremendous development in rationality. And yet, in the world of feelings,
not very much. All right. I know for myself, I had to work tremendously on that. Alright. So,
again, let's take a look at now, Ken Wilbers. And you can find this picture and a number of his
books, in particular, a brief history of everything is a very good one to take a look at. All right.
Okay. And definitely Ken Wilber has his narcissism, there's no doubt about that one. All right.
And so what he did, he did was in to give us something to kind of hold on to, which was, why
do we have all these theories from all these different people, and all of them had their validity.
Okay. And so the beauty of what he has worked out here is that he's divided it into an old level.
So you could take my model and put it right over there. Okay. In the left upper quadrant, which
he calls the subjective, I, psychology is a very good example of that, what's happening inside
of the person, he ends it at least at that point in something called Vision logic. But if you notice,
there are arrows on the ends, that take him into the spiritual ranges problem is what happens
to your model when you go spiritual at that point. And all of that breaks down. So what you
have here is a all level all quadrant model. And as I said, there are also streams in this. And so
he says, there are four different quadrants that you can put theories in that they all have
validity. And I found this to be the best way to approach clients who come in, in particular, is
that we have to take a look at all these different things, the internal psychology or the left lower
quadrant here, the interior, collective, the cultural, in other words, that our subjective
experience only has meaning within its cultural context. Our language only has meaning within
our cultural context. And so you could look at these levels of going from egocentric the socio
centric to world centric to global. Right. And again, with all those levels, we get many times one
level kind of masquerading as another level, I think we we do a lot of talking about compassion
in this country. And I sometimes wonder about who we're being compassionate for. I think a lot
of times we get into that kind of socio centric, or we have politicians who represent the people,
but they're really representing their own interest period. Alright, or their own group. We also
have the right upper quadrant, which is the objective biological and it quadrant. Okay. And so,
in other words, as a psychiatrist, I hand out medicine. All right. And I know that medicine works
for some people. Okay, matter of fact, it works in some people that nothing else has worked,
and it works quite well. Okay. But if I disregard the fact that this person is a person and lives in
a family, then I'm going to have a problem here. All right, I'm missing a piece of what's going
on. And then I wonder why this person didn't get better. Okay. So, again, we have to take all
these and then you have to look at the kind of inter objective, the social systems what kind of
economics and other systems exist for these things. Right. And so he wrote a book called an
integral psychology that at that point, you know, takes models from all these people, some
really nice charts in the back of the book in particular, where we begin to see the similarities of
our models. And when there aren't similarities, what you'll find is that it's probably sitting in a
different quadrant, so everybody has something to offer. Okay. But the problem is going to be
is that at, you know, in the era in which we live in right now, okay? If the model doesn't seem to
agree with ours, it somehow gets degraded. And I just want you to see that in net effect is a big
difference between being respected, have a lot of different views and learning how to actually
integrate those views into what you're doing. Right that you need to take into account, not just
the fact that you can say, well, you know, I do you know, I hand out medicine and I believe in
neurofeedback, and, and in biology and all these other things, it doesn't take into account the
other things. All right. So, again, as I said, I could probably talk for hours about his model. And,
but let's just use this now to talk in terms of what a healing of the self is. And the healing of the
self is really a process in Wilbers model of moving up to the next level of transcending. And
including, you know, again, when we start talking about self, that puts us into the left upper
quadrant again, and so I would much rather use my kind of model because, you know, it's
much more reality near feeling, at least to me. So, again, we're not saying that when patients
come in majority of the people I see are very nice people, matter of fact, they're so nice, that
they're being taken advantage of. Right. And so the majority of work that I do, is helping them
move from this moral level as their almost exclusive way of seeing the world to this thing I call