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[00:39:30] today I'm in a good mood I'm feeling positive still feeling very relaxed and looking forward to hopefully getting out of body but if it doesn't happen it doesn't happen and I'm thinking at this point it might just be the pressure you know I got the camera I want the story you know so it's definitely something that is in the back of my psyche saying hey you know as long as you're feeling that pressure you're not going to pop out so so I'm trying to today really take away that pressure really say to myself you know what if it
[00:40:00] doesn't happen it'll happen while I'm at home and then I'll document it there and that's it that's the end of it so I'm just going to try and relax and have a great experience today and I'm going to go with that positive mindset but either way I'm having a good time all right breakfast I had breakfast had the intro today we're going to be doing or for now we're going to be doing another uh free flow in Focus 21 uh and this is the one that kind of messed me up yesterday so actually looking forward to doing it again and exploring it uh maybe further
[00:40:30] and with more intention this time so we'll see uh Paul citarella been here at Monroe for almost four years now uh my role is uh Executive Vice President and chief technology officer so basically my role is uh focusing on our overall growth strategy and when was your first out of- Body Experience somewhere 15 years ago maybe a little bit longer I had read Bob's books actually prior to that and I was going through the the Gateway experience so I had this CDs and I was doing that at home and I was doing one of those every day I was going
[00:41:00] through those and not having a whole lot of experiences happened during like the actual exercises um but I started having things happen at night when I was sleeping it started with lucid dreams which was new to me and that was kind of mind-blowing just by itself and just being aware in this dream environment and being able to control the dream and that was really cool but I really wanted to have that classic out of- Body Experience um and then it happened probably a few months after I was like going you know into the gateway series and uh I didn't have the same kind of vibrations that Robert Monroe talks
[00:41:30] about but something similar um and I ended up just kind of peeling out of my body um and in my room and then looking at my body and being like you know at first I was just I don't know it it's kind of a mixture of I guess uh astonishment and like you know I was also trying to have it so some relief I guess as well but but just some strong emotion then I just kind of clicked right back in and that happened to me a lot in those early days is like as soon as I'd get out I'd get really excited and then that would just wake me up after reading reading you know Robert Monroe's books and I've always been a Seeker hearing about his experiences I
[00:42:00] mean that to me you know if that was real like that just changed everything for me like that was so amazing that something like that could really be true because it you know changes our whole definition of like reality like you know everything we know tells us that shouldn't be possible um and so that's why for me it was excitement it was like I'm actually having this experience and then then that proof of having that be my own experience now um was just incredible what are you most excited about at the Monroe Institute right now
[00:42:30] that you guys are currently working on what excites you what gets you out of bed and what gets you what keeps you going about this place you know what really excites me now is you know we're always doing new things you know we've got research going on we're always working to like improve what we do um but but our focus on like getting this out to the world in a big way is what really makes me most excited and that's kind of what I do I mean I'm really just focused on our growth strategy and how do we how do we get this out there because knowing from my own perspective how this changed my attitude my outlook
[00:43:00] on life you know everything that I thought was important before you know that all shifted um and I know that if enough people have that experience that can just change the world I mean that can change society first meditation of the day is done interesting one for sure as this was the sort of entity Super Highway and I kept getting the message you are ancient and it wouldn't
[00:43:30] stop it was like like super deep you are ancient that's it cool um that's the same it's interesting because the feeling I had when a few days ago I had this like Rumble that was like starting in my legs and building up
[00:44:00] and I could like feel the room shaking and hear it shaking and there was like this rumbling going on the first thought I had in my mind was this is ancient whatever is happening to me is ancient like this is something that is happened to people thousands of years this like connects me to them was this thing that was happening yeah I don't I'm just relaying information so those are the connections I made so far going to the brief now going to go talk figure this out and then back here
[00:44:30] in a minute for more astral traveling so my name is Alan Evans and I'm the CEO of the Monroe Institute and I also train some when I have time so I started having obes or out of body experiences spontaneously and it wasn't here while while I was here actually I was listening though to the take-home exercises oh that is called the gateway wave series but before I did that that me that method I had a few spontaneous ones with nothing and that so I
[00:45:00] experienced it learned about it then I wanted to get a little bit more directed you know the first time I did it um it or the first couple of times it was more um related to exhaustion you know and just being at a point where I just didn't care what what was happening and so that just transpired and I and I never was afraid I've never looked at you know dreaming lucid dreaming obes as something to fear um I just see it as an experience so for me it's when that happens it's like woo here we go I did
[00:45:30] it very directive where I you know put the three exercises together two exercises which is a meditation so 45 minutes 90 minutes you know and hour 20 and I found that to be helpful like to do a meditation that had nothing to do without a body and then do a free flow or something like that to attach on to it which means no verbal guidance or not a whole lot of Direction and that was so the second stage of it is where was more successful and then I found out in the afternoon was a good time for me or
[00:46:00] early morning you know if you wake up like at 4:30 or 5 okay um you can be successful there at least that's how it worked for me I tried the galantamine and the U melatonin for lucid dreaming that was very successful but after you at least for me personally after I have these experiences um if I'm not interested in really working on it like a remote viewing if you're you're going to be good at remote viewing which I'm sure Joe mcmonagle told y'all it's a
[00:46:30] practice it's something that has to be focused on pretty regularly same with ob same with lucid dreaming you can do it all it's just how much do you want to do it um I had an interesting experience with a trainer um I was here for a professional association meeting and I was running the control room and a trainer it was a it was an exercise that was not designed for out of body but that trainer who was here had one okay so as he realized he's out of body he's like well what do I do now so then he was like oh I know I'm going to go check
[00:47:00] on Allan in the control room and see if she'll see me or experience me somehow so he shows up at the control room door which I think you've seen right yes and that's where we do the meditations where we're um broadcasting to all you guys who are meditating and so right when he does that there's a knock at my door now I had called maintenance I needed some help with the equipment this person I'll call him Fred Fred um just happened to
[00:47:30] be standing there when the door opened now he sensed a male presence but he didn't see him so he just sees the door open he sees me sitting at the control uh panel and I look and so I'm actually talking to Larry who's the maintenance person going I'm good well right then I did this and Fred thinks I see him and so after the meditation and he is so excited he cannot wait to tell me
[00:48:00] or ask me about it and no I didn't see him but he saw me he I did I did I turned around and I said to Larry because we can't you know we have the microphone so we don't say a whole lot so I just did it with us wow I'm good wow but what a validation there still a lot of people need that validation right includ including myself you know I'm looking for it I I want you to be a skeptic yeah when you come here I me that's that's healthy yeah to do um Bob and roow would always say you go find out you go do it
[00:48:30] and so we continue that we say we'll tell you some of our stories when we're setting up for you to do the next meditation or afterwards but it's not about what we do or what another participant experience it's about you what what are what did you do what we have done is we've set a a a goal very lofty goal of reaching 1% of the world's population which is 80 million U that's our Focus in the next 10 years or now it's the next nine years so we are doing
[00:49:00] things to help us do that because we think it's so valuable for human transformation for uh quality of life for peace and it starts with the individual yeah if you were to travel anywhere right now out of body where would you go wow I haven't been asked that question before huh huh you can choose right now yeah to go somewhere where would you go to go anywhere anytime yep
[00:49:30] wow that's a wild question oo ah that's such a hard question as you were formulating the question the image that came to my mind and to be honest I don't even know if it makes any sense but I'm going to say it anyway was to my own future to meet my future self I would be very curious to know how that looks like the way my brain works one of the biggest driving factors for me and my curiosity is where did humans come
[00:50:00] from and I have my theories and I won't go there but like the creation of the first human or the design of the first human I want to be there at the the assembly line well there is one place that I usually go to and it's just like an archetype of universe I see this like a Milky Way kind of uh thing so I usually go there and it's just my home I would want to go to the place where knowledge is held you know I would want to go to that place where I can learn
[00:50:30] things that are a little harder to figure out uh here the little evil guy on this shoulder says Antarctica what's the guy on the other shoulder say yeah that's a great question um probably just to see some family I would want to visit Local 3 and local 3 I've done it once Local 3 is U Beyond so it's a different world the weird stuff yeah yeah I would like to do that you know I I would love to go back
[00:51:00] and talk to talk to Robert Monroe you know in the early days but I'd love to get his take on where we are today you know as a species as Humanity if you could say one thing to Robert Monroe right now thank you that's what I would say thank you both and that was the last of the guided meditations for my Gateway Retreat it's tough to make this video it