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reverses itself on them from time to time. You must work with energy as a whole piece of the puzzle, you must recognize the general source from which it comes. It draws from everything and everywhere around you, things you see and things you do not see. It is more like the air, which you do not see, yet. It is everywhere. There is generally oxygen in most everything on your planet, in some form or another. This is the way that energy works. It is everything. It is everywhere. When you are able to call on and draw back to that base source, the battery, if you will, you are able to do the types of things that your people would call miracles. They are not miracles. They are simply expressions of energy given direction. 29:30 Well, this course is a fascinating area for us, and we want to learn as much as we can. There another concern in our minds always is the nature of evolution itself, which you have referred to several times from your perspective. Can you? Can you tell us what, what the process is of physics? Physical death is like for us, the experience that might be expected by a human being to to experience during and following the total exit from the physical body. 30:19 We would have to draw on the memory resources of this channel for that in as much as we do not experience what you call death. However, as an infant, this one did experience physical death because of the awareness level at that time, being very open and not having had years of conditioning and other thought patterns retained in her Consciousness, perhaps the best expression of death would be from an infant's point of view, the experience was much like what your Near Death Experience researches have been about in the sense of the body being left behind the astral body, leaving it the essence of the pure energy, Moving away from the physical form and going to a place away from that body, your kind generally refers to it as a tunnel. It is more of a vortex of energy, drawing back the energy unit to the source from which it came. You enter through that tunnel when you come into physical reality, and you exit through the same when you leave. For those who have had years of experience on your planet, particularly when your physical age is greater, there are so many misconceptions as to what death is like that what happens for you in As much as thoughts and ideas and opinions are energy manifestations into something physical. When an older one of your kind leaves the physical body, the way that they perceive life to be after death is exactly what they have. If they do believe in heaven and hell and they feel they are truly deserving of one over the other, then that is the way they experience life after death, until they decide to release it on their own, or they are offered assistance from another energy unit. 33:33 Right then we then any individual might might expect an experience that would not upset his present beliefs at the moment of his dying. 33:47 This is true. However, what you have to be most careful of are the subconscious fears that you are not really aware of as to what death is. It is the attachment to the physical body that causes those fears. There is a belief on the part of most of your people that the physical body is the only expression of life. It is merely a side trip. It If life were meant to be physical, we would all be in a sad way indeed, for there is so much more that can be done in non physical ways. 34:38 Yes, it's difficult for us to conceive of any activity, any doing without doing with a physical body. Do you experience have you experienced being without a physical body, entirely in any form whatsoever? I. Many 35:00 times, because it is more of a release and not having to deal with whatever one would have to deal with when they had a physical form, it is much like your being out of body. There is a sense of lightness, a sense of oneness with everything that is the only reason for us to express in a physical form is so that me, we may try to learn of something that we would have difficulty doing under other circumstances. That is the main reason for physical realities to begin with, and that there are some things that you cannot learn or deal with in any other way. I 36:03 well is that the attraction of being in physical reality we we wonder sometimes why anyone would ever choose to come into physical reality in terms of the limitations upon us of gravity and separated states. 36:28 Originally, you have come in to experience the physical reality, as you stated. However there becomes, there comes a point in time where there is too much attachment to the sensations that the physical body expresses and feels. It is this devotion to those physical sensations and expressions that causes you to not wish to leave and go back to the true sources. 37:11 Your concerns with feeding the body, keeping it warm, keeping it cold, procreation, sight, sound, all of your physical senses. It is this preoccupation with continuing this process which is the very thing that causes you not to experience things that are far greater than the body could ever experience. Only when you are willing to release that glue that holds you to that those concepts are you able then to leave it and realize that it really does cause you a great deal of disadvantage, even though there are advantages as well. What is wisest is to use the body for whatever learning experience you came here for, but not to become attached to it as it is, you wear it out soon enough. It could last longer than you allow it to, but the things that your people do to your body cause it to wear out sooner than need be. 38:42 Well, there's considerable teaching coming into us now that indicates the power of thought over the over physical matter. Would they change in thinking? Be as effective in prolonging physical existence as a change in eating habits or things of that kind, 39:11 very much so. In fact, should you choose you could continue your existence without the intake of food if you knew how to pull in the energy and use it to move the body and keep it functioning, you would not need physical food. It is much similar to the I eat energy food that your group refers to, 39:55 your body can feed itself and regulate itself. Should you allow it? But there is a reluctance on your part to not want to control it. By controlling it, you cause it to need the food, the warmth, the heat, the cool, whatever, if allowed to function on its own and naturally draw in whatever it needs and convert that to whatever it needs, it would function far better than with your control involved. 40:44 From your vantage point? Are you? Are you able to perceive the causes of our reluctance in this area, the 40:52 attachment to the physical sensations? If your people would pay more attention to every action that they do, we feel that their understanding better what they are doing, and all the processes involved in those actions that this would help to release some of the attachment, for example, whether it be eating or sleeping, if as you take food into your body, if you were to truly focus all of your attention on that experience and on nothing else, you would see that there really is no Need to devote so much attention to food intake the same way with the process of your falling asleep. If you paid attention to these levels that your body goes through and your mind as you go to sleep, you could then achieve the same amount of physical rest without actually, excuse me, the results of the same amount of physical rest without actually taking Great spans of time to do the same thing. It is merely an awareness of how you do and what you do do, 42:57 the static noise that your mind listens to, all of the thoughts that you pay attention to whenever you are doing anything. These things keep you from having the quiet mind to be able to experience what you really want to experience. Therefore you keep as in the example of food. If your mind is cluttered with many thoughts and many different things that you want to do or is being reacted to by the stimuli going on around you, you are not paying attention to the food that you are eating, therefore, you have gone through your meal without even being aware much of what you did. If you could clear your mind so that you could enjoy the actual process of taking in food, you would then find that your attachment to this process would be eliminated because you had finally experienced the experience that you wish to have. As it is, you are only devoting a random bit of attention to it. This is what causes the attachment to keep on manifesting until it is far greater than you can deal with to then start unlocking that attachment becomes an even harder task. 44:38 Yes, we appreciate this. It was very interesting and helpful to our thought processes. I am wondering in terms of the our contact today, and the nature of your teaching and so forth, in connection with the channel. Herself. Is there anything about the present process, the lab, the booth, the sound here that that is anyway essential for your free coming in, you come in very strongly and easily. But is there anything special here about the lab that is important for the channel to have? 45:24 There is not she does not need the facilities that you offer, however, it makes the body more comfortable, but she could sit where you are and do the same thing with you. However, if you need your equipment for recording data, if this is the only way to do it, then this is how it can be handled. 45:57 Well, perhaps I could ask you something in that area, since it involves another form of energy we we do attempt to collect data by measuring the body voltage and various currents and changes in the physical body itself, And we have difficulty interpreting and understanding what we get, for instance, at the moment, there's certain numbers that are coming out of a value of minus 143 millivolts by some standard from the channel's body. We don't really know what that reflects. Can Can you shed any light on that for us? 46:47 What would your reading indicate under normal circumstances? 46:55 Well, to the best of our understanding, it's simply, it's simply showing the output of an electrical energy from the skin surface of the person who's being measured. And we get different we get patterns that don't seem to be consistent with one another. 47:19 Do you mean from channel to channel, or with this one? 47:22 Well, an example would be that we get for several days, we might get a certain pattern. With all explorers who come into the lab, everybody seems to have the same pattern. Then suddenly that pattern changes. And for a week or two, we'll get a totally different pattern for everybody who comes in says, if it's not related to the explorer, but maybe related to something we don't even know about, this 47:47 is true because the energy you must understand. First of all, we assume that you are aware of the energy curves that exist as the output of something being measured, the frequency rate with which they vibrate. Is this true? Yes, the universal energy patterns have a frequency rate that would be, if we could draw it for you, it would be much simpler. However, if you measured the output of this channel's body. Let us say, for example, that over the course of a three inch span of distance, and drawing it out that perhaps there were 1000 beats within that three inches. If you were to take an identical three inches and try to measure the universal energy, you would not even have one frequency beat showing up within that span. It would take many of your miles to even finish the first curve. It is these up and down movements of the universal energy pattern that affects whatever the channels that you have are doing and that they have their own body reactions to what is going on, because they have their own frequency beat, and