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1986-07-19 - JPMcG-4 (This is an unedited transcript, auto generated by otter.ai.) 00:04 Well, this is session 1808, the fourth session with jpmcg. July, 19, 86 00:16 Sure. Why not? 00:17 Why not? Tell me when you feel that you could hear that little bit louder 00:31 about the overall effect here, 00:37 it feels like it's more on the right side. I 00:44 i How about now? 00:47 Need more to the left 00:55 that should be doing it. That's good, is it? That's the center. Do you have a hearing loss in one ear? Yes, okay, then we're all right. Okay. Now we're at a point where you can just focus on the sound. Stay very relaxed. We will join you in your forming your intent with the affirmation and do your other processes to take yourself to a good, focused end state, and let me know when You're there. All Right. Applause. 05:27 All right, all right. Didn't take long at all. You feeling okay they're in that place, 05:41 yes, but it's a little hard to hear you. 05:45 I can boost it. Is that better? That's better, alrighty, I was asking if you were feeling comfortable. It feels like a good Tim state. Yes, okay. I think from here, I will ask you simply to let your consciousness expand outward in all directions, out and out through 12 and 15 and beyond, wherever you are taken, and describe your experiences as you're moving, any changes that occur to you, or anything at all. Share with me. All Right. You 07:45 it has a great degree of lightness, Getting ready to leave The body. 08:01 Okay? I 08:59 I never really paid much attention to before, to how this worked. It's like a balling up into a little knot, and as I withdraw from different places, the other energy starts filling up. 09:27 So interesting to observe that I 09:58 the transfer is almost. Complete. 10:08 Let's be a little bit nervous. 10:12 Just stay relaxed and know that you will always remain in the sound of my voice return when I ask you to do so. 10:21 Still having trouble hearing you, 10:24 you're going to be within the sound of my voice and always return when I ask you, so you can be simply quite relaxed. Know that all is well. You 11:24 We are now here. 11:28 Oh, welcome to you. 11:31 Thank you. It is good to talk with you again. 11:37 It's very good for us too. This is an energy that I have spoken before, is that right? Yes, it is right. I understand that the the entity, the channel, has been making some large advances in contact with with your energy. 12:04 This is true. She has been working with one of the energies present since she was a child. However, in recent times, she has been working with a larger group, although she is identifying only with one of those at a time. The reason for this is that the ones that we bring with us are learning best how to deal with your people. They have not had any experience with your races before, although they are used to working with those in other systems. 12:58 Actually, could you tell me what kind of a system you exist in, what your reality is like. 13:10 We have a physical reality, although it is not like yours, and that we work on different principles the main thrust of that is we are more aware of how to use universal energies to create whatever it is that we need to experience or learn, or whatever we need to maintain a physical existence. Should we choose to do that? We are also able to change our outer expression of physical reality whenever we wish to choose to do that. We do not have labels such as you and we do not communicate in the fashion that you do as well. The basic principles that we work with is the identification of individual energy signals, much like your fingerprint system, where it is unique to each individual. So our energy patterns, 14:30 I see, can you help to clarify for us a bit the process by which you are able to utilize the vocal cords of this channel, and therefore, thereby utilize our form of communication through the verbal mode. 14:53 We are in the body nail of this channel, as well as in our own. Own physical body, there is a difference in the measurement of time, whereas this is taking a much longer span of time on your planet, it is but the mere twinkling of seconds for us on hours. This is why we are able to devote so much time to this. It is a projection of a telepathic nature, as well as using that to activate the body and cause it to respond to the signals that we send whenever we have been using this channel to instruct others through the telepathic communication that exists and the energy forms that are projected into the body, we are then able To use it much as we would our own. By releasing part of our own energy, we are not lessening what we ourselves are. We are just merely extending the range of how we utilize that energy. 16:20 I see and you you do have some form of time, although it's quite different from ours. This is true. 16:33 Ours passes at a much faster rate than yours does. We are several solar systems and galaxies removed from your planet. 16:52 Do you have, as we do, a lifespan in your your form? Or is that subject to your own desires and will 17:02 that is subject to our own desires and will not every energy unit chooses to manifest and what you would consider an acceptable outer form, They will change into whatever they want to be, or to go to another star system and experience that reality. It is more an awareness of the universal energy principles that are there we are part of that, as well as being allowed to express and to learn. I guess you could call it in your terms. We are on vacation whenever we are allowed to play and experiment when we do not care to be in physical form or the particular form that we are in now we simply 18:06 move to that signal that we wish to be, and then we are that particular physical manifestation 18:17 that sounds to us like a marvelous degree of freedom. 18:23 It is something that you are capable of doing, if you would just but remember, the people of your planet have long allowed the desire to stay physical as they are to be the overwhelming concern, as opposed to experiencing other things, the lack of belief that there are other things, is what keeps you in the physical form that you have. There is not any trust involved that will allow you to experience something else, the fear is too great. 19:08 Well, there are those of us who are dedicated to releasing all of that doubt and fear to enable ourselves to learn. What sort of help can you offer to us in this? 19:27 For us, we have for ourselves, we have been trying to work with various individuals on your planet to teach them the basic art form of how to use energy. It is sometimes very difficult, because these are principles that we naturally understand and do not know how to express or communicate with your words, as well as the facts that these are such. Basic principles that even for ourselves, knowing how to use these systems, we find it very difficult to move backwards and work at such primitive levels. However, we have been working with groups of people, teaching them how to, first of all, start to recognize the things that they cannot see. This is the first and most important thing, as well as having access to creative visualization and being able to see that which you cannot see. 20:42 I guess, we're very interested in learning to be able to see in ways that do not have to depend upon the body's eyes. We have made these eyes to see in certain ways. Any help you can offer for us to see differently, we'll appreciate it 21:04 when we have been working with your races in the past and in the present. Generally, we find it is better if they do not even use their eyes in the beginning, for if they do, their brain takes over and their fears. They cannot see what is happening, and they shut down the feeling and expression of whatever is occurring. So this is, as we say, the first step not to look. If you cannot see it, you can then experience it and then truly see it. You 21:43 Yeah, yes, do you? Do you offer specific exercises or methodologies? 21:53 We have been working with a group and showing them through the channels how to use energy, or in this case, not necessarily use it, but just to be aware first that it does exist, they first have to become accustomed to Recognizing the actual flows themselves. Practice is also very important, because your mind must learn to recognize something that it cannot see. It would not be very easy under the circumstances today, to show to you how to experience the same energy flows in that this channel is here and you are there. It does require some on person contact, or if you were able to not be doing the part that you are playing today, where you could participate with someone else, where you are, as we would instruct you, 23:15 I see, Well, given the special circumstances of our session today, what would be the most profitable use of our time right now, 23:30 if there are any questions that you have regarding information given or not given, we would be willing to answer, if we are able, you must remember, though, that we are not disembodied energy units. We do have our own bodies, which does place some sort of limitation on what we do or what we do know in terms of your realities. Do 24:04 realities, I might ask about your overall purpose, as you see it, in in joining with us in this way and offering to be helpful to us. 24:20 There has come a point in your race's evolution where there is a great need to go back and remember what you have suppressed and forgotten. There will be times ahead in your future when there will be a great need for understanding how to use energy. It is there for you to use right now. You do not know how we are not talking about just what has been referred to by others as the Earth changes. Your race is moving through to a. A time in its evolution when everything that you know as normal now will be different, and you will be using the various means that we do as well. It is time that you now move forward in search of that end to there are those from our planet as well as those from other star systems who have been most interested in the changes of your evolution as well as your planet, for quite some time. There are ones around who are simply here as observers to see what is going on, because this is a momentous occasion that your race and planet is moving into in your history. There are also those who are trying to share whatever they know best or do best to help ease your people in the transitions that are to come at the same time, this can only be done in such a way as to not interfere with what you are doing. These are basic teachings that are going on, and it is for your people to decide if they wish to use them. The knowledge is there and it is being willingly offered. There may come a time in your future, many years from now, where your people will be able to help those in another star system, the universe is made up of sharing of knowledge and pooling of resources. It is not a segregation such as you think of yourselves now your cultures have become very egoistic in thinking that they are the only ones that do exist. We do not mean everyone, as you said, there are enlightened ones, but they do not come anywhere near the numbers who are not enlightened. 27:33 Yes, on our planet, the whole concept of energy, the whole subject of energy is approached primarily in terms of manipulating the physical universe in one way and another, often destructive ways. The energy, our use of the energy seems to have it get out of our control. I assume you're talking of a different kind of energy. We 28:04 are talking about the basic energy that is part of everything. The people of your planet merely talk about energy and try to manipulate small parts or small segments of it. This is why it