1996 Professional Seminar: Peak and Other Exceptional Experiences During the GATEWAY VOYAGE (Todd J. Masluk)

that I think could be attributable to faces the environment. And this place is in a gorgeous setting. And in fact, a few people did have experiences which were initiated from simply walking around on the ground. So but it is nice to see that 95 up there. Under Other some of the conditions and the other are quite interesting to people's experiences begin for instance, while viewing the videotape, listening to Bob Monroe or Jim mcmoneagle I got to tell that to TGL sometime that he will it's peak experiences and people get a kick out of that. In this part, we want to pass a water view here but some people actually mentioned that the experience is the first time from just eating your food here 53:52 the next table okay, this table has to do with how people are integrated experiences. Obviously the number one way they did it was discussing experience their experiences with others. Participants mentioned that the people that they chose to discuss the experiences with were either people who had had similar types of experiences, or people that they could could trust, for instance, close significant others, family members and so forth. People participants in mention keeping the experience to themselves. A lot of ways people mentioned that they found the experiences too sacred and they just didn't want to share them with other people. It was actually quite a number of frequencies on the other let me just briefly mention rows 55:16 of participants mentioned party experience guiding and walking in nature, expressing experience musically, we live in a play the experience in one's mind meditating on the experience, trying to recreate the experience and listening for your guidance. What I found from looking at this kind of data is that participants actually needed to put forth effort they needed to consciously really work on your experiences that you might want to think of like when you have a dream and what you need to do with it, to work it to work with and kind of milk it and, and and derive meaning from it. And if you don't do that, if you don't put forth the effort, it seems, from what I learned from participants that just don't experience the kind of impact or change, or these individuals have a good example of a an individual who did this, who's ever failed four year old female participant in during one of the taping sessions, she received the message in Hebrew. And afterwards she went into battle to unravel its meaning. Excuse me, just a quote her. She says, in one of the tape sessions, we asked what is the most important message we can receive and understand at this point in our path, I received the number 25 in Hebrew letters, I am from Israel. After the tape, I got the the idea that the number might be in the Psalms are open the Bible and number 25 in the Psalm says to trust and love and another thing I don't recall at the moment, what is important to me though, is that I knew which part was meant for me the first three or five sentences and I got the message. So that just goes to show the actual need to work with the experiences put forth some effort and and that's when we experience has kind of come to fruition and experienced the kind of positive change that individuals have reported have the next table please My time's running short. Just go ahead and finish up okay, just briefly on this this table views have to do with attitude, attitude After Effects and I generally define that as any changes in people's thoughts or feelings about themselves or their lives. I categorize these in four principal categories, attitude towards self attitude towards others, attitude towards life attitude towards a spiritual dimension 58:20 okay, I'm not going to say any more about that our time is running short. But that should give you an idea of kind of the range of After Effects they're causing next table please. 58:45 Question actually very few people in that coded that experience as an ungrounded experience. Very few remember, which is going to be here. Question 58:59 Find out the ones who rubbed the wrong direction I 59:07 asked participants why they believe your attitudinal change had occurred. I thought that'd be very interesting question. And the one that really flabbergasted me was the first one here. People mentioned that the reason why they hadn't changed was because they've experienced these kinds of experiences all their lives, and it was nothing new to me. Very surprised by them. In fact, one night I was out with them shortly. We went out after dance class to Barnes and Noble. It's kind of a coffee Cafe around here. And we're sitting in there like two bohemians, you know, and having a good time and surely mentioned to me that some participants actually come in gateway with the intent of learning how to control their experiences. Question 59:56 So that kind of fits right into it. Who wants to try to control their experiences the basics turn the projector off if you weren't able to last table ahead 1:00:34 Let me just conclude by making a statement or two. Brief of what I've learned from all this. Based on data collected from the loving gateway groups, it appears obviously, that not only do peak experiences occur with regularity during a given program, but say a wide range and multi dimensionality of other trans ordinary experiences. And, obviously, to the extent one is willing to acknowledge and consciously work with and integrate such experiences of one's life may change in profound, profound and powerful directions. Question 1:01:33 To get them to lunch on time, so there's a few questions I'd like to ask people to come up and use the mic. So Mark, and the question unless it's very useful. Question 1:01:52 Your percentage of what you call right brain perceivers by the Herman brain scale seems contra intuitive to me, based on how many PhD and postdoc you have. Now, I do know from the scales that we've had on virus spreads. The strange grouping of PhD post doctorates, actually a career you currently are not becoming? Could you? Because I don't. If I was your doctoral dissertation advisor, I'm going to ask you to explain them. Because it seems like left brainers per se, or some kind of balance, if nothing else will be posted after or collegial debates. I mean, I think you'll have to explain it. 1:02:51 Well, I feel the need to look at what their doctorates or whoever lived in, for instance, or English or art, or that might explain some of it Question 1:03:01 being a left brain, 1:03:04 right. I don't know I don't I don't have a real good answer for you. I'd really like to think about it. It's an excellent question. 1:03:17 I think that it's a cover, I was trained very nicely by the physician or Lance's left brain as you can get. But that's not my way of operating and don't think, here's my cover. I do think it justifies what the expectation of people who come is, at the same time, the things that I know will work. Question 1:03:37 And they do a very, 1:03:40 very nicely as we are now operating, and maybe someday we don't have to run with a cover to do with real. But I do know that if we do damage to shut in the medical school, because that's what we do. And all these things happening. It wasn't until I was way down the line that I discovered my modus operandi wasn't kosher, so to speak. It was It wasn't. It was absolutely what was required by the book. But there was something different to it that was never written in any book. And when you start talking to a bunch of blocks, you'll find a lot of them are running that way. And I think who's going to do that they did some studies on that position diagnosticians. And then when we scored how even honestly, just looking at stars and stripes and waves and things that don't have any Question 1:04:30 personal life, mostly high level of 1:04:35 ESP, those who were really good diagnosticians. And that was just the only category I remember reading what they're looking at. Which means what was said because you know, want to be looked at as a diagnostician, you're doing things in a logical, linear way following algorithms and making decisions that decision points to consider only inputs that are important. And that's why I saw I think that suddenly find themselves in the same category, some economies changes, at least in my country. It's attitude, you play those games at the same time. So that you can absolutely justify everything you do this way. But you can make a better effect in creating the operation. And I think that's your answer. I don't think that there was, I don't think that by looking at what somebody does, you can say, well, that's, to me, that was obviously a no brainer. I don't think that follows at all. I think that you may have a lot. I think a lot of the scientific types you get these wild ideas and then try to justify them in a way that other people who really aren't breeders can understand might be perceived to be by the big population as no brainers but I don't think in reality they are I mean, I understand what exactly right, somebody, are you telling me that's left Question 1:06:00 episode of assembly was helpful. And I never thought of what we did as either left or right, because I didn't do my my whole education career the way anybody else did anyway, but I grew up in a most peculiar lab, it was more of its kind in the country. And it used to attract people to see us because it was so peculiar, and we were located between Grand Central Station and the UN. But it was a place where people used to visit, but it was peculiar, I would say that I was the most square of those people. So we can imagine what the other two are why? This is a question to Utah. First of all, I loved your presentation. I loved it last year, and I love the twice as much for increments. This year, you mentioned that a lot of the people said that they came here, because they were having these experiences all the time. Do you have the sample of the people in the sample? Question 1:07:11 Can you identify those people? 1:07:13 I can't? You know, that's one question Question I wish I had included on my P questionnaire or somewhere because I like to go back in time and look at these individuals. You know, before we came to look at more of your brain here, and I didn't do that when Question 1:07:28 you do your next study. And I hope you do, because I love the way you do what you do that that kind of intake information along with it, first of all, would answer a lot of these these things and it would it would reveal some of the secret agents of which two of us have already talked. And I think that you'll you'll find more richness in it that way in, in in terms of some of the their their reasons and their backgrounds and their experiential things. And that would be I think, exceptional in that. But there are more gateways. Question 1:08:20 Yes, did you find the relationship between any of these experiences and the Myers Briggs or the Herman brain dominance? 1:08:31 I haven't analyzed that data yet. Because of the individual differences in the correlations like that. I've just been so overwhelmed with just coding the data, and I'm not even finished with it yet. Hopefully, I'd be done in a month or so. And then I can start to read in SPSS, SPSS computer system and do all that fancy stuff. But I'm not quite there yet. But I might have an answer for you next year. 1:09:04 No question that is definitely a compliment to to Laurie is only surely in school everybody connected with with the Monroe Institute. You know, Robert Miller Stevenson said, I don't know the exact one but if you can touch one person's life, in a positive way in your life is considered a success. And we are talking about men worldwide stay in touch because I imagine what what is also here that you can refer to is people who have been asked to do workshops and touch on the people in the networking teams and people from my workshops are not coming to