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therapist, Joan Kellogg, was she psychic? Or did she actually identify a phenomenon that
could go behind her particular set of skills and be taught to other people? Could they also in
the structuring of the research, non experiencers can learn to experience and, and that's one
of the great contributions I think Bob Monroe has under has underwritten and that is he has
invited us into a kind of experience that a lot of people would never enter into in the safety in
the sport and in his curiosity and his pursuit after the big truth. So I have found that in
structuring research, I'm I'm challenging to find out if it's only my experience, or if I can share it
with others, subjects and fellow colleague researchers, and if it's teachable, I mean, if if Joe
mechanical has a phenomenally valuable skill, which we all know he does, and there's a kind
of research that that I can go and learn how to move back and forth across time the way he
does, then I can learn from his very gifted and unique skill. And I feel I was taught that in this
room when I came to a professional meeting, he gave me through an experiment he did with
our clubs. He's I learned that I could remote view, I learned from a man who had a very unique
skill set to he he had an experiment with all of us, and I was introduced to something beyond
what I knew I was capable of. So for me That's part that's, that's where the path of research
has been valuable. It's expanded my horizons, but your
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what you're describing is based on your own personal experience, not something that, you
know, the Joe's intention or someone's intention to teach or to prove via research, made a
difference.
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No, I married this man and came with him. And I thought a lot of what he did, that's too bad.
weird, scary. But he said, Come here, I want you to meet these people. They're very unusual.
And they're willing to look at a bigger truth, to use Tom Campbell's phrase. And I came. And I
found out that in the safety of this place, like a mystery school, that I could experiment with
myself, and my own sensation perceptions. So I trusted him to come here and learn that,
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I'm Tom. Tom has said that one of the problems here is our misunderstanding of causality. And
it seems to me that a lot of conventional scientists based on this thing causes that and we're
going to do a bunch of tests to say this thing causes that. And we somehow misunderstand, in
this probability reality, the very notion of causation here, so perhaps what's happening in
research, is beneficial and good. It's just cut, not what we think is going on here. It's like
experiences of interest to go through, but it's
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not, it's not so much what you do. That's important when it comes to research. It's, why you're
doing it your intent and your motivation. So you can do the research. And that's good. But it's
not the actual research itself. You know, it's the interaction, you have the interaction with your
clients that are actually going to have with everybody involved in that interaction, done with the
loving intent, changes everything. You grow, they grow, everything works. So we do
something, and it doesn't really matter a whole lot, what it is we do, what is important is how
we go about doing what are our interactions with other people, the people to people,
connections, that are important. And you can do that in the context of research, you can do
that in the context of social work to do that, in the context of anything. So it's no you don't stop
doing research, the research by itself is not that relevant. What's relevant is that it's a system
in which you can interact and with people and give them your loving attempt and your caring.
And that does make a difference.
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Very well said, Tom. Excellent. Thank you, that is very, very well said. Now we have the last
comment, right?
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I kind of want to frame that in a little different way and push them a little different direction, we
choose to come into these bodies and limit ourselves to this particular frame with this particular
set of characteristics in this particular culture set in a particular situation. So there's this power
to limit said When you research knowledge is context, dependent in our life, brain, a little bit
about that after lunch, but nonetheless, when you limit yourself to focus on a research project,
then what you're doing is you're drawing some boundary for us to enable to create more depth,
all of us are here and I use the term God to be the one and all that is all of us are here to
expand God's thought were increasing continuously. All that is all that is is but then we're
increasing all the guests because we have a frame of reference that has never been
replicated, never will be recreated each one of us is very unique and has to still be sad. So
that's when you found a subject and be pushed into research you are creating new ways of
looking at those relationships that he's talking about. And thus you are creating a larger piece
of this magnificent hole that we are in so your research I would say is powerful, wonderful. And
yes do as much as you can push the edge as much as you can because
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the larger hole even just
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the previous transmission has been brought to you by burst transmission
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I would invite you all now to join us for lunch next.
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