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1978-05-17 - MABEL-01
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My name is Paul and the following excerpt you're going to hear our tapes made me talking with
one of the voice channels in Elisabeth Kubler Ross group. The channel's name is Laurie and
the entity for hire song talking to her name is Mabel. The following excerpts that I selected are
excerpts during which she and I discussed various psychic experiences that I've had some of
these psychic experiences are out of body and some of them are discussing the preliminary
stages out of body such as vibration visualization projection. The following is a case made on
April 11 1978. With me discussing a psychic experience that I had, the quality of the tape is not
very good, because the machine we're using was very bad and the tape quality was very poor.
So what you're hearing is a copy of a copy. Now the voice that you hear sounds kind of like
something you would hear in a $5 medium reading, phony type of setup but I can assure you
that it is not as funky as it sounds, all the voice channels, the entities that speak through them
sounding almost exactly like the cadence of the voice, the lilting accentuation It's almost
exactly the same it's almost uniform throughout all the mail send the same all the females and
so without any further introduction, Here's an excerpt it's also interesting to note that just within
the last hour or two really strong Santa Ana winds has come up off the desert or unusual
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North
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I'm going to come back to this but I'd like to jump into what happened to me the other night
right the channels one and I'm just recap it briefly for just in case you're not aware that's where
I dropped into this dream like state and then into the psychic river flowing into psychic
frequency where you know I had the visualization of all the rats you know the dark gray rats
running around that always represents spacing and then I went through that and I felt the
manatee coming next to me right next to my leg and kind of accelerate the energy the way
Charles did when we were over advances the time to talk about
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I'd like to tell you you're attracted to create a unity the unity within your entities
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another entity
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to cough
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again we're cutting into in the areas
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is tomorrow
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because it was important for you
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and your team to really to be
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with you
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and dealing
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helped create
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Okay, I'd like to talk about the what was the fear that that I was getting at I couldn't quite get
into the projection because there's a disturbance in my brainwaves trying to connect that I've
really felt a lot of reluctance to face the fear and I'm beginning to realize how much reluctance
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to do you can appreciate
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would you like to talk about the energy I felt like I was doing that on my own accelerating
energy
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and you were getting again you draw to you want to call for support you can support your inner
self did not you're capable of facing without your social life
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it will show
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you how to
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do know
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that you create
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the designs that you can call
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that was a tape part of a tape made back in there on April 11. As I said before, she continues
to talk about my fear and fear of losing control things that might have stimulated that fear in my
childhood my feelings about going into the psychotic state that sort of thing. This is a little more
recent tape that I'm going to play for you This was made on the amazing team and I'll play a
few excerpts from that and over
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you're such a nice I miss talking to you sometime now. Otherwise I suspect across your path,
shall we say another plane
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you have
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recently like within the last week
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things are starting to intensify now.
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Yes and you're going to do
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I really looking forward to this but I'm sure that you're aware there I've had a certain amount of
trepidation.
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Perhaps
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I can't help it. There's the fears were there and
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To push
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indeed to be pushed
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well my feeling is that I don't have all that much control over I have a feeling that my higher self
decides when I'm going to have an experience and when it's going to let me in on it and then it
happened
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to me it's a shame because as I drift back to around April 11 the time we're talking about when
Sonic wind came and swept me away that that would have been a definite out of body
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you sound like you're having a little trouble neighbouring
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I'm going to
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the lawyer needed to extract everything I can
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the way I have it figured is that our entity is our higher self as Robert Marina and I forget that
our higher self is the second body and that during sleep or out of body experiences it's their
body or higher. So, it moves at a higher vibrational rate that separates from the body and astral
travels. So in that respect you then become an entity is that correct
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which is the full of at that point in your mind
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to attend support
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exist
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shoe race through
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vibrations change
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binding to the slow vibrations field when you
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need to do with the evening
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just stand you can do that
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So, what you're saying is okay, Robert Monroe's talking about the phases out of your physical
body set your etheric body
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Krashen likes to think of
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it is a body of knowledge. It can be theory couldn't be
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clearer within that. That brings us back to our and you so what does that make you that? Are
you that Lori's higher self or are you in an entity
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stable
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you may have been noticing that within the last month I've been having a tremendous amount
of difficulty because of this layer of fear that is getting in the way of everything that's so great
that I just don't want to do it what can you suggest to help me work through this I just want to
know that something terrible is to talk
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about a way to deal with it is to talk about it of you getting blocked right now and intellectual
you've got all this data and it keeps rolling around inside. Better go
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What I'm saying is keep looking at uncountable VLANs take the risk when the information isn't
even sorting out very well in your head and taking the time to sort it out
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sure to talk about all the different types of experiences that you've had or try and put them into
general categories to organize your brain to start with to try to categorize
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Okay, well, I can only think of two real
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let me say, of course this most recent ones have been the ones that have sort of Pekin since I
started my growth work since I came to the group
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there's two categories. One are the the ones were
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the ones the easy ones, were the ones with the vibrations with a vibration and the roughness
comes in. And you know, I feel like I'm slipping into that frequency and things get very rough.
And my mind starts to go into projection. That's one category. The other category since I've
started my growth work is this category where it's like a dream but my mind or my body
becomes catatonic I can't move. And that's where I've just gotten to the channels many times
where the entity, female and he came on start kicking me in the balls. I can only assume that
that was sort of like gross. Like, I can think of about three of those times that I had an
interesting one the other night. That's a little bit different. And that was the one where I went
back to this apartment where I used to live. And I was walking from my bedrooms bedroom,
my sister and I used to share towards the bathroom when the door was closed and it was dark.
And then I decided why am I doing this and I turned around and went back towards my roots.
And then this is the crucial part. I decided I realized that I really wasn't there that I was astral
traveling. And then I sprung and took off like Superman. And I assumed I was diving back from
my bio describes that action many times. And then I would say
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various
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categories
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Yeah, I would tend to say it was too
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experiences as migration as old as your categories. Another one is a group of categories
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and in this growth category, I'm always being thrust projections where I'm being confronted
with fear and I usually move first initial barrier to even face the fear of you know, it's always
represented by rats or something really repugnant that's still the second category
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now,
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the first things you were talking about progress moving into the astral projection the second
one and that is with astral projection is
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negative and
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terrifying and happy happy had a few
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named just want to give me
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ah
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you got that from the channel. Notice the third category the second part of the growth
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which can also be in information without pain relating to equal to that sometimes will be
painted but if you assume that all you're getting is going to get his pain and fear you're setting
the intent for pain just for learning
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every time that you feel it coming on you your mind reviews all these things
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over time telling you that you need not a review all these things have happened to every time
you feel it beginning that they happen and the specific things are not going to probably happen
again. There will be something different it may be painful or it may be just pure learning without
pain. You will not know which it is and you need to learn to put the child in a mind boggling pod
and see what's happened
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something new happened this time languaging to go with whatever
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you will take note
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to immunity what triggered all this off. When I started going through this doubt period of having
all this my emotional support from the group kick out from under me. And then I was beginning
to question the whole thing. And then and then I was beginning to question the whole thing.
And then le preusse come up with this theory that it's all the work of Adele as well the chart the
child in me is frightened
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and you haven't dealt with it
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I'm working on it but
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what I'm seeing is you haven't finished
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asks you to ask for thinking about it and books to read and ideas to go into your head to
working with your plans is an idea of time because your mind is relatively free for it it
discovered that
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you can come up with conclusions and ideas busy in new plants every day when you work with
a new site to ask for some guidance to ask a question many ways to get us besides leaving
your body and you do need to get to that point leaving your body that you're isolating just to
that area and it may not be
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listening you know that naval I just want you to tell me unequivocally that I'm not going to this is
not the work of the devil and that I'm not going to be possessed or something
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do you think it's the death
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now that there's so much fear associated with it from the child and
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such as no to divorce nothing to do with it, you can control pom pom but there are many ways
to deal with yourself when you feel comfortable and talk to your little boy inside whether it's
meditating asking a daily question and
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we're going to get out of my body
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let's talk about why
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I want another piece of reassurance before I get back to this what I do get out of my body Do I
have your unequivocal assurance that I will have friendly entities guiding me around and locale
to
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have what you asked if you
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buy masters such as anything that you ask you about Charles
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Just a note here Robert. Charles is supposedly the entity who has been assigned to me to help
me with my psychic development I felt him and his energy around me many time refers to him