Collective Unconscious, Dream World, and Universal Knowledge #28 -- fJvLqvgEpSo

[00:00:00] this is Rita Warren one of the monitors working in the Explorer program at the Monroe Institute the material that follows was recorded in the fall of 1985 during the 45th and 46th sessions with the Explorer called winter who channels energies calling themselves a soul cluster although the soul cluster identifies its main focus as spiritual comp components of the cluster [00:00:30] represent different interests thus the questions are answered by the particular energy within the cluster that is most appropriate for the information requested um I have a good many other questions prepared but because I I I know that we are going to have a number of sessions now uh available to us in a fairly short period but I wonder if it would be uh good now to save some of [00:01:00] those and hear more of the things you wish to tell us that would be fine we may save them and we will proceive we just some of the things that we feel is important to be coming through at this point in time as you are aware many of the fields of science on the Earth's plane are all beginning to explore the new age Concepts the concepts of paradigms of what is taking place of Soul of Life Death and what [00:01:30] have you the time has come now for the scientist to begin to merge their their research to merge their Concepts into a Oneness this Oneness is more than what has been known as a holistic concept because this particular Oneness takes into account that area of knowledge that is outside of the the [00:02:00] traditional way of thinking we wish to bring to the Forefront the thought that the body is within the soul and not in the reverse order we will be wishing to bring to the front the concept of a need for looking back at the what was called on your planet The Big Bang Theory the concept of how the Earth was created and thought [00:02:30] reasons and to look and to establish that there is without a doubt a way of thinking of thought form and thought travel that is universal and should be used the needed objective at this point in time is to to bring those individuals who are as you would call New Age thinkers out of their closet and into [00:03:00] the Forefront because there are at this point in time too many groups too many special interest groups not necessarily on the right track who are wreaking havoc and destruction on the Earth's planet and these negative energies can have an adverse effect to all that the groups like you are trying to to do so what we would like to do would be find a way to bring forth the [00:03:30] information about about this concept of universal knowledge and Enlightenment and to take away the old paradigms specifically paradigms that have been founded in the field of psychology which originally was for learning of the soul and study of the soul and certainly not whatever it has gotten into today but to look at the field of psychology [00:04:00] anthropology as well as physics and to merge these science Sciences so that one universal order and one universal science comes forth we will pause now do you have questions well I just I think it's fascinating that you've been working with me this week I guess to develop my questions because one whole page of my questions have to do with the Big Bang Theory and things that follow from that [00:04:30] and the concept of the universal mind and Universal memory uh so what a coincidence what a coincidence you've been here before today yes yes would you like to proceed with questions would you like for us to proceed um well uh I guess I would like to have you proceed and then I will try to fit my questions in wherever they're appropriate very well [00:05:00] let us begin with the concept of The Big Bang Theory this is a theory that we have discussed at one point before as we talked about how souls and everything spun off at at the same rate casting out and going out to become you and all of the entities around you the point of the Bing Bang Theory and actually there must be other terms for that that that are [00:05:30] better that could be broken out and more easily defined the whole point of The Big Bang Theory is that Light reaches the Earth at the same intensity everywhere there is much in science that would show that indeed the start of this particular Galaxy and planet and civilization all begin at once if you were to go to your mathematicians and work through num numerical forms you [00:06:00] would find that the numerical forms all resolve out the same numerical numbers there is much on the planet that can be pulled together and can show that the the energy the god Force as you are accustomed to calling the universal Force did in fact create everything with one large explosion one large large ball [00:06:30] of fire one large star explosion so to speak and your Consciousness rose out of that explosion just did the technology and the equipment that you are working with and that's your Consciousness which you are using now is the same Consciousness that was alert and awake and alive back at the very beginning and there is light that you are using now that comes from the 20 million so years [00:07:00] ago when everything was created may I ask a clarifying question um there yes um we and and usually in thinking about the Big Bang Theory are thinking about the creation of the physical universe but you're saying that much more comes along with that this is correct we're saying that with the big bang theory that is how the god Force worked also to spread out the Consciousness so that it could take [00:07:30] place and move on down into what you are today the god Force Consciousness was always there but in creating the various souls and aspects of the god fors that particular Consciousness came about at the same time of The Big Bang Theory mm oh that's um that's a lot for us to think about here and I'm trying to recognize the implications you may leave [00:08:00] it and come back to with a question at a later point in time if you wish all right I I my questions that I had prepared were mostly around the concepts of the physical Universe creation this is fine you may proceed um the the theory is usually uh uh opposed by a theory which says that there is continuous creation of matter um in the universe and that uh are uh physical bodies of the universe [00:08:30] the Suns and stars and the stars and um planets and moons are continuously forming and disintegrating so to speak um this um um you would then disagree with this letter this latter concept this is so because as and there are scientists working on this today this is not so surprising there is a constant changing [00:09:00] of that which is of the present matter as we once gave the example of a tree in the forest but that does not mean that it is being made out of nothing and taking place and there are many scientists working with the quantum mechanics who are seeing that everything happened at one time and it's just a transformation but not a total new recreation yes uh another of the [00:09:30] implication of big bang theories I have understood it is that matter was set into motion uh at that uh at the explosion and that it continually moves apart and we have a phenomena called to the astronomers the red shift that um um is an indicator to them that the Universe parts of the universe are continually accelerating away from each other um is this part of what you uh you understand also no if you will go back [00:10:00] and if the astronomers would get their Concept in line with some of the physicist they would see that it is a problem of perception and it is not what is actually taking place there is a very even evenness and centeredness to the entire universe the concept of everything on schedule would apply to the universe in that there is no dispar ity between the total picture and what [00:10:30] is actually going on they are only seeing one small part they are not looking at the total picture then it's not so that the uh the we are continually accelerated away from other uh physical bodies in the universe this is correct it is as it was at the beginning it is a constant and it is their own miscon misconceptions and [00:11:00] beliefs that have put them where they are it is not like the belief that Columbus had to overcome when he was striving to sail around a world that was flat the same is true with what is taking place with many astronomers today well it was SE then that as you suggested earlier that the Big Bang Theory is not a very good name for it because that suggests the explosion that [00:11:30] does send things into the motion so that a better term would be something else this is correct we cannot give you a term at this point that we feel would be better possibly we will come through with a term we feel better that will be more appropriate it it was more like a fireball that that spread out that is our concept um is it appropriate then to think in [00:12:00] terms of uh at one uh just before the um event that um all light was contained in that um in that one uh Fireball or whatever and that is now what is spreading this is correct as well as um um all um life forms that now in inhabit our at least our part of the universe this is [00:12:30] correct but the universe is still so very unknown we are giving you but one small Penny out of a $20 bill to describe all that is going place the universe is constantly changing and we are constantly learning many many things about the universe even on this plane when we take to look at it it is not primarily our source of information because we are looking at ultimate truth [00:13:00] but we do feel that we need to bring the message that science needs to pull back and look again at exactly what is taking place and actually science is doing that at some point we will ask you to present your questions to us about time because we will be touching on an area of time and how it functions that also will be fitting in with those in [00:13:30] physics but we will not move to that particular question at this point we want to make you aware that we will ask you to bring the information in question for back to us all right think about that um so that I'm still struggling with this concept as you can see uh the notion that the uh um what we might call the god force or [00:14:00] the source or um whatever Universal Mind whatever language we would use for that made a decision uh to have uh these events occur yes and was is that with a an overall purpose that we could understand there have been many purposes given as to why the god force would do such a thing uh perhaps the [00:14:30] best the best answer to that is so that it can reflect back upon itself this is not a concept that is easily understood but without the planet Earth and all that is in it and without the entities the god force is not able to reflect back upon itself and this even to a god force is important [00:15:00] well yes that's that's fascinating um we think of um of um the um the development of human beings as uh ones of uh increasing uh increasing Consciousness or increasingly aware of uh self-aware and aware of their uh their world um is is this at odds at all with uh with what you've said no it is not it [00:15:30] is more humans are more and more on the path to just Awakening to what they already KN knew and as you are aware there is only a small part of each individual's total Consciousness there in the body so there is much more outside the body that is totally conscious and aware and not having to awaken to that which it knows [00:16:00] we are going to proceed with the concept of time and how the concept of time works with instantaneous thoughts we are going to be proceeding along the lines of the concept of time being much as a hologram a total picture uh a concept that can be tied into to what you refer to as the collective unconscious we are going to proceed by talking about the