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[00:00:00] This is session uh 1407 session number 45 with TVP on 82385. We are here and ready to begin. Welcome. We're delighted to uh to have you uh join us today. Um if it's possible I would like to um uh speak with the uh the Gandhi component of the group to follow up on
[00:00:30] some of the things that happened last time. Yes. Give us a moment. We have a few things that we will be discussing today as well. If you'll give us a moment, we will see that you speak with the energy that you wish to speak with. Thanks very much.
[00:01:00] You may proceed. Very good. Thank you. Um after speaking uh with um your student uh Clyde last uh time, we find ourselves uh having uh a lot of questions about um the teaching
[00:01:30] that you're doing now and um we're wondering if you could tell us something about um the students that you have and uh how they're chosen. Yes, we will be discussing later on during these next few sessions the need for paradigm shifts which are taking place on your planet. Much of the of the teaching that is going on today at this level has to do with the selection of
[00:02:00] those higher energies which will in most part be returning to the planet to aid in the paradigm shifts. Clyde was one of those. Much of what is going on is not a teaching as you understand it. It is a moving of energy which helps the entity expand their own awareness. And I am in that role as a facilitator. Although I consider myself a master
[00:02:30] teacher. It is not in the way of sitting down and lecturing. Even though I have described the setting as being a classroom with students in it, it is all on a nonverbal level of communication, a thought transference and more of an opening up of awareness. That's interesting. So that would uh your your teaching methods though would involve uh your your meeting with uh
[00:03:00] your students as a group. You could put it that way. Um, I do not necessarily have to meet with them in order to give them the information. Just as there are many enlightened souls on your planet that do not have to meet face-toface and personal contact to pass along the information that is necessary. The same is true on this plane. It is a more that we are on the same vibrational level and I can pass the information to
[00:03:30] them. There are times when we are together, but it is still not the concept that you are thinking of when you visualize a classroom with me before a podium that it's not quite the way that it works. Um, assuming that there would be um, uh, a large number of entities that would meet your criteria for inclusion, how would you choose those that you uh,
[00:04:00] wanted to work with? It is a matter of as I said before vibrational level and there are many on this plane besides myself who are doing the the teaching as we are calling it. So it is not like everyone runs to be with me. In fact those that I teach are those that I have been tied together in many lifetimes on the planet before or on other planes. And so it is a natural bonding. The same is true with the
[00:04:30] Buddha images that are here, the Krishna images that are here. It is still the same. There is a particular bonding and the energies are drawn together. Um would uh all of the uh students you're working with have spent uh uh some time in the physical plane? Most of them have. There are three that have not, but most of them have spent time uh on the physical plane and in one
[00:05:00] relationship or another with me in one lifetime or another. For this reason, it is the same as with you and the people around you at this point in time that if you were on this plane, you would be drawn together not for reasons that you can readily understand. It is like the magnetic field that is sometimes talked about. It is a polarity of drawing together and it
[00:05:30] is not unlike um the dance of molecules just before the balling point. Molecules know to to come together to form a certain pattern just before water boils. This is no different than how the energies know to come together just before they move on to another plane or before they choose to reincarnate.
[00:06:00] Um will will you be uh preparing uh them for uh specific roles on the earth? They will choose along with their own guardians those roles which they will come back to earth and carry out. What I am doing is more of showing them the ways to the truth so that when they are in whatever role they
[00:06:30] choose they will be enlightened souls and able to carry on the teachings. It is not like I am specifically teaching someone to be a nonviolent leader. Rather, I am teaching these energies on how to live in the world and how to bring truth which is so important to the planet.
[00:07:00] Will they be entering uh the physical plane as what we think of as new age children? Yes, they will. They will be entering. There are some that I'm working with now that will be back on your plane within the next 15 years. There are others that it will be more likely the year 2040 or so before they are back. They will all be coming back to to make the adjustments for what the
[00:07:30] planet will be going through and to bring enlightenment to the planet. It's very very interesting to us. Um, at one time in in talking with you, I got the feeling that you weren't too anxious to talk about your last life on the earth, but I was wondering if it was possible for me to ask a few questions about that. You certainly may. It is not a matter of not anxious. It is it is it is a matter of that it takes
[00:08:00] us back to living in the past and forgetting what is the Dao which is the most important thing that one can attend to and in so looking back to my past life there are those individuals on the planet who may overlook the new leaders of today the new the new dimensions that are taking place. They do not realize that there are those that are around them that are
[00:08:30] every bit as enlightened as you like to believe that I was when I was there. Um yes, we I wondered whether there's a um the fact that um a good many um individuals still um uh think a good deal about your your messages and your teachings uh here on earth if uh and use
[00:09:00] you as a model. I wondered if that to some extent locks your energy into the earth plane. There certainly are theories that that is so, but no, my energy is all at this point right now. There are those who were my followers who can dwell on my concept perhaps a bit too much and pull me back to the earth plain for brief periods of time. This is passing. As when I am brought back, I talk to them and tell them that it is not in their
[00:09:30] best interest to do this, but rather they must use their own inner guidance and who they are in order to grow and to be all that they can become. But I am not bound to the earth's plane. If that is the feeling that you are. Yes. I was wondering if some of your energies was trapped here be because of that. But that's good to know that it's not. No, those concepts that that you are speaking of the
[00:10:00] concept the the mind thoughts of of trapping. It is it is true that there are some lower level entities that do get trapped in the earth's plane and that thought forms can hold them there. But mainly it is a thought form of myself that people are tapping into and not the original energy form that is myself. And the thought forms that these people tap into when they are considering me can be actually dissolved
[00:10:30] just as you dissolve demons and entities that you don't want. But they cannot dissolve me and what I am. It is just a thought form that is around. Uh yes, I understand that distinction. That's That's important for us to hear. Um, looking at uh that life uh from your present perspective, um, what do you feel your main teachings uh
[00:11:00] were? Actually, my main teachings were far more centered toward oneness and toward peace and not so much against others or even in promoting nonviolent ways. That was not so much the center of what I was trying to to bring forth and to spell out for the for the individuals there. The thing is I see more from this level
[00:11:30] what it was I was teaching because it was at an unconscious level that much of what I was bringing forth was and was taking place. Much of what I brought forth was on an energy vibrational level, a calm centeredness level and had nothing to do with words. There were many things that I was known for that could just as well be left alone. For example, my desire to work
[00:12:00] with uh spinning materials. This is more of a centeredness, a way of meditating that westerners could use as an example rather than the actual act itself. It was that when we are doing such task, we are able to focus our minds in other areas. I do not believe that I should be known for an overwhelming defeat of the
[00:12:30] British by my peaceful ways or for marching to the ocean to take up salt. These were things that I did, but they were not the overwhelming concept of centeredness and oneness that I really would like to have promoted. Yes, I see. Uh other teachings that I thought uh might have been involved were um a determination to see
[00:13:00] that um right was done, but doing that without attack. This is what I consider when I was speaking of the relationship with the British. It is a centerness and oneness does not judge what is right and what is wrong. And from this viewpoint I see things a bit differently. I certainly in that lifetime had a very strong sense of justice uh in this
[00:13:30] particular plane that I'm on. justice as defined on your planet is not something that we spend a lot of time using our energies over because things just are. I would not say that I was a strong promoter of the right. There were certainly things in my own life that took place. If I reflect back on them, I would say I
[00:14:00] would need to change perhaps the treatment of my wife, treatment of my children. This certainly was not uh from an earth spec perspective, I would say not seeing that right was done. Right. Um could I ask about the fasting that you did um um as a a way of bringing
[00:14:30] about change? Uh does this now seem to you a productive method? It is not productive when it it starts to destroy the body. The care and attention to the body is the most important thing that humans there can do because as you know it's the only body that you have and you are there incarnate to make to show and to be the glory of God and therefore when you're fasting and
[00:15:00] when your body starts to eat away at itself then you are not necessarily creating good to fast to get others attention. I do not feel at this point in time is also a good way. I feel that because of the power of the mind and thought forms, you can do other things by merely being without fasting. That would be just as effective.
[00:15:30] Um, I also wanted to ask whether you um chose uh assassination as your way of uh leaving the physical plane or whether that you were simply ready to go and that means uh appeared. It was more uh ready to go. It was more a contract that wasn't made at that point with the soul of the assassin. I knew that I would be dying in a violent
[00:16:00] way. When one chooses a path of nonviolence, the irony and paradox is of course that they are going to leave the plane in a violent way. But perhaps this was the most important message that I could have given to the people of the planet. Had I just died, a weary old man, not as much notice would have been
[00:16:30] made of my death or the message that I was trying to get across. You have seen the same in some of your wise men such as King and Kennedy. You have seen the same type. They chose rather the ch the choosing was made prior to the incarnation. They knew that along with the life and what was going to take place that they would be leaving it in a way a little bit