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programs smoking anger drug dependent, he stopped playing sport and eating more healthy
way. He has decided to become a psychotherapist to help his drug dependent friend become
unconscious of us equal to clinical result. The other 130 also of therapy and it's still being
followed is actually very is the 40 forces are losing since the start therapies are going from 31
to 41. We will be soon at 51 in fact it is B is true triglyceride our stability studies aren't physical
he has gained some weight and start planning his life with his mobile phone system is throwing
some of amelioration actually today is Bucha test show that is the in Switzerland the person
with the ICD and the most I T cells in the world and the second case is sorrow. So to own
murder, I have two young daughters. She's British and live in France with her husband and
children. She comes from a well educated family and as his university degrees she has two
younger brothers and she had a lymphoma going through when the size of the neuron she
upper armpit or those under home in our neck. Here was developing in the groin area or
prelims produces was so bad the physician console or prescription in cancer to the Kennedy
Jr. Therapy, she becomes in cooter RP as a last resort. A factor that triggered the onset of her
disease was the overdose refusal to visit her after the birth of our second daughter. Using the
roof she discovered that she was born out of wedlock and that her mother gave her give her up
immediately to an adoptive family. For one year, she really said that she was afraid of
accepting all autonom for being like murder, and that being less dedicated toward children, due
to the subconscious phobia, she did not exist, other than the role of the mother. She
understood that she was different for her mother and accept our own personality, which are
strong artistic tools. At the same time, she had to revise towards harassment which she
considered to do like a brother that alive companion Can you tell the results she underwent 40
also of therapy, she has a complete remission all traces of cancer are disappeared. Last
ganglion located in the groin area is slowly disappearing and she looks at her own personal six
holy T and renewed it last congruence EC is awake. Therefore, we can choose your life and
choose to give ourselves a large range of possibilities and resource in order to succeed. I
would like to wrap up by quoting two former US men union Ghandi you taught us that what we
are not conscious of becames our feet and Ghandi told us very wisely that the only way to
change the world is to change ourselves. We have created two tools that helps us find our own
ways response to a question about life and this one must know about this in order to live life
and ought to have life in order to accept this I would like to save the money Institute for all the
pioneering work we've done in exploring the unconscious and thereby expanding our internal
freedom it is abuse of fresh air for those of us coming from the older work thank you all for
being in Europe.
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Questions and I'm sure that she will have many to make them as direct and clear as possible
Dominique
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because they're very brave and
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clear and concise as possible.
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My English I'm sorry
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can you tell us more about the timing of the gamma of the tapes that you used? Did you use
gamma all the time or in bursts during the tape
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each session take two hours and when I used to do two hours
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in anything in the background was saying just gamma Yep.
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Are they special tapes? Are they Monroe tapes or not? I'm not clear about what kind of tapes
or CD you made them for her. Oh, thank you
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I wasn't clear on your role as the therapist in the procedure. Are you listening to gamma at the
same time and are you what are you experiencing?
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It depends the day I feel what what I have to do some some di ng some day I click the trans
one.
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But are there times when you feel you have a shared reality with your patient I mean you I
don't know altered state with the patient
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sometimes yes it seems it is necessary to understand what the condition was
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just in terms of how you set up the session is the patient wearing headphones are you in a
room where the gamma is being played over the workers
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there then the patient is laying in a trance and speaking together with just like when you are
singing on microphone moody aka hokey you just the same principle
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your patients all the time as I mean so you are with your patient all the time while he is kind of
dreaming you conversate with your patient and you know what what's happening in him and
you push him to have more experience or how will you go on
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Saturday I give a lot of information on about symbolic images that they have an I give the
information and the patient say yes or no if I understand what happens yes is that no it is not
that no one decision is going is going on the the patient the patient understand what was doing
well what's happened in the program.
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The patient sees images is it and he tells about image yes and you just for an exam use it the
patient tells you all I visualize a big tree in front of me oh how would you come in then
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I give the information through is Clement and whoever's is also that it is actually the whole
process toward if you see somebody who's seeking here the problem genealogy the family
because we
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zoom the tree and you come in and says oh, these
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are user information and details take care about it and is following the information I guess I
guess I understand why you speak about the matter of our dog speaks
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Yeah, it's very interesting. I never heard it this way
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it's a psycho analysis
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on a fishing expedition, but
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another way to characterize it might be as a collaborative dialogue
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that's his past the shows and we will manage that. When we do the painful experience, the
automatically the image change. And then those is now we are living the dream. I don't speak I
wait. That is.
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One thing that struck me was your description of the case of the young man with the suicidal
tendencies. It sounded as though that moved very quickly for him from insight to insight. Oh,
what was the total timeline of his therapy that time period of a week, a month, two months
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that I don't
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talk to men for weeks.
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Every time it's between the four weeks The Brain need four weeks to transmit information and
four weeks, four months.
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So a period to integrate the next
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metabolize the information, information. Thank you.
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Just I found it. So very interesting that I really wanted to understand every word. So is it
possible that we get your paper?
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Yeah, sure. I do. Have a copy to sell. It's been great.
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Thank you very much.
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I assume everybody here knows why you chose gamma. But I would like to know. I'm just
fascinated. So I would love to know what made you think of gamma and what range of gamma
because
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working in the booth with Darlene, and introduce something?
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I want to first of all, I want to thank you for your language effort. And I apologize for if basically,
I didn't follow adequately. I would like to know, actually, barber second question. Were in
gamma, the tapes are falling. And did you alternate? Did I understand correctly that you
alternated theta tapes? And gamma tapes? Yeah. And could you tell us sort of how the
process would differ on a theta tape date and a gamma tape
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in the first part of the news data data focus twice and some stopped the gamma, the gamma
waves up in Swan
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talk differently.
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And on the camera days, you'd either dreams different
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dreams are different yes in theta and gamma is completely different.
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It is the same impression that you are going to patients walking away with questions take time
and the gamma waves that the polling is. are common ways you cannot make a demo.
Possible he has to meet.
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Didn't this come out in the early days 9596 was skipped first got onto this one person's Go
Global at some focus, higher focus level. Again, you get this burst of gamma from the brokers
gyrus, which is which is the right side of the brain. There's something about that back at the
beginning of the research. Something I've heard skip saying yeah, he would have to be the
ones. I was hoping he was
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kind of interesting, I really want to understand why it's blocked with better
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goes on. So
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what can happen what opens up
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since pivotal brain.
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Well, my my understanding of what what's happening is that the patient himself or herself is
blocked and can only get so far, but the gamma unleashes something. And it's interesting
because Dorothy I don't know if she's here. A psychologist. Yeah. Dorothy we were talking
about this last night. Jim, I think there were there was something that skipped told Adonai a
few years ago about seeing gamma bursts when people had it. Tiffany's All right there's an
opening of some sort that happens and I don't know what range again of frequencies mark you
had on the tape but we'd like some
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Okay
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Can I ask how many one other question though I was wondering because you mentioned that
some of the patients had problems with some symptoms when they had too much did you find
that there were also psychological symptoms if there were times when the gamma was too
intense psychologically and people became much sad or depressed or manic or well there
were some patients that experienced
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a physical symptoms
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but we still got delta wave state when we do blame disconnect the program has this effect
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and you guys dad psychological effects
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where you, you work with the session, you work on the problem of surgeons always different
parts of your body connect with emotion, your life
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rather than emotionally. Psychologically, they weren't able to handle the populace yesterday I
am most interested in the kind of relationship that develops between you and the client. I
remember reading back about 1970 in a volume edited by Charles tart, a situation where two
individuals who were very good hypnosis subjects went into hypnosis together through mutual
hypnosis and had a shared experience. During the second or third time that they did this, a
lady entered the room and became herself hypnotized and began to participate in the
experiences of the other to destruct me in 1970 as a very unusual thing, but now I see that you
are able to become part of the experience of your patient, am I correct? You shared
experience join join
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if if I wish if necessary. I am going to focus on that the patient to see what happens.
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Okay. That's what I that's what I was thinking. It is wonderful to see this kind of connection.
Thank you.
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Thank you. I have to see this way of work. There is no transfer on the therapist. The patient
transfer on the part of himself and on the healer, guidance, work with no guidance. And when I
knew yesterday, I really I realized I really realized that purpose is really silly
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I wanted to follow up on on Mary's question. I'm not sure that I felt what would go wrong if you
kept them. Doing gamma tapes because I gathered that if they did the theta tapes at times
things would get blocked and you felt that you had to alternate and I'm not clear what went
wrong when you didn't alternate and you just did gamma what would happen what did happen
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go on with time and you know what happens can you do too much
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too much is not possible because you are working two hours with us at home just like that is
really pensive
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to watch have to back off using the more general way to process
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work we should we should we should
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I don't want any more no beginning work and you finish this work. And after it's tough because