Robert A. Monroe - Miscellaneous GATEWAY Transcripts

you’d be amazed how quickly you can recoup that when you - the need will be fulfilled without the having to force it. If you force it, it’s not going to do it. And that sounds like ~ I know, I’ve been there. Yes sir. Audience: (Can’t hear) Bob: I can tell you very, very bluntly. First of all, it was of dire necessity, as I looked at. Because it was either, if I was going to retain my sanity, I had to do something. That’s the first part. Because it was out of cantrol. The, I think the second thing would be, that it took me a full year - mind you, a year of almost nightly activity, or daily activity, one way or another in this phenomenon, before I accepted the reality of it. Up until that time, I thought it was a hallucination. But it was no heavy thing like that. You know what it was? It was a steady accumulation of verification, validation, of various types of out of body experiences. Going somewhere, doing something, and perceiving the result - and other people perceiving that result ~ don’t you see? A whole series of things like that. And I say, in that first year, half of the year I was frightened. The other half I was angry, and the other third, I was angry, and the last quarter, let’s say, I was excruciatingly curious, because I had it under control. But the biggest frustration was that once I got it under control, in the sense, well, what do you do with it? And that’s when it got worse. After I lost the fear of it. And I was able to stop it. Then I didn’t want il to stop, don’t you see. I wanted to do things with it, because I had no longer a --- PAGE 18 (OCR) --- o 3 [| me put it this way. Most people are in an cut of body state in 21. It’s o nly a relative phasing part, in terms of what that in 21 they are, they don’t know it, but they are, they have phased that much away. And it’s only a phase relationship. And as they go farther they’1l ? I can’t really detail when that change occurs when I’m more the than here. Tocan’t tell it anymore. It’s so quick and near-instantaneous, I can tell when I come back - shoooot We call it waking up. And it’s strange, but that’s ctly the feeli 4 now. It’s that feeling you get when you wake up. You feel like you’re coming up like that, or, you know, the typical wake-up feeling. I’m going to make you a little bet. A year from now, T’11 think of something, remind me. If you drop me a postcard a year from, we’ll have some kind of deal, that if you don’t give me a postcard that says it works, and you have control of it - you probably won’t bother, you’ll be busy doing something else, but that’s another story. Audience: Have you ever had, in the lab, any of these entities de jokes with your equipment? Bob: yeah. But you got to remember that’s one of the most valuable things that - and I was astounded to discover it, speaking of non-human intelligences, the UFO characters - you know one of the most valuable things that humans have, that is like exquisite diamonds to non-human intelligence. You know what it is? Sense of humor. Fun, humor stuff. This choice, juicy thing, and it’s amazing that - you know why? Because humor insults logic, basically. It’s a short circuit. When you laugh, Sa S009 00050059997 S000 8FR SASGEF SSSees ge esR Saas Sess Seana eee eeenr ESR SSer a eke sees ease eeSeee Seeeer ee eeeeer eeseRer ei eSene --- PAGE 19 (OCR) --- talking about fit in this - there won’t be any square pegs left to fit inte round holes, if you think about this. And it took me, believe me, it took me 25 years to get Lo the point where I had, where I was forced to find this out. So, in a very crude way. So, I’m very deliciously happy to share it, but I want to get you to the point where you’ll understand it 4udience: (Can’t hear? Bob: You’ll understand it then. What you described, there’s - it’s not a pat answer - but it’s something that you can, indeed, find out for yourself, alright? That’s the point. You can find out. You can verify it for yourself. I was astounded, myself, to find about it, and if I can find it, well, you can find it. Audience: (can’t hear) Bob: I don’t know, but if they play around with certain frequencies, don’t do it. There are given frequencies in visual and audio that are - and any pathologist will tell you this - or even, I can tell you any res sarch facility will tell you, who’s working this. There are certain, uh, that works on a flicker technique, in other words, frequency, there are frequencies there that will synthesize, simulate a major grand mal in you, an epileptic seizure. There are others that will do different types of things, and this is why, what we spent all these years learning where they are from other people, and from cur own work. And our own is the least of it, believe me. But there are these go take a full physical test. I can send you to a facility out in Kansas that will do it. The Menninger Foundation, or the V.A. will do it. They’ll give you a full physical test, and they will --- PAGE 20 (OCR) --- 3 run you through these patterns, and then you can scream when they hit it. If they were, had certain frequencies locked out, they’d be perfectly safe. But the ones that I’ve seen, you can set whatever frequency you want, and then you pop yourself ____? Audience: (Can’t hear) Bob: Who approves them? I can’t control what Mike (Hutchison) does. But I would not, unless certain frequencies were locked out. And you can lock them out. Just cut them out of a availability band, both visually and audio. If you like it, I’ll be glad to give you all a demonstration, if you’d like. Of what it. feels like to have the big knife cut into your brain at this given frequency. I can see it doesn’t feel good. Audience: (Can’t hear) Bob: I presume so. The thing is, go find them. They’re difficult - that’s what we’ve spent all these years doing, is isolating workable frequencies. Here you are, let’s take sound in itself, from zero Hertz up to what, 16,0007? That’s about the top level of anybody’s ability to hear. What are you going to do? Select a11 16,000? You’d be surprised at how tedious it is to have a subject in a lab, and you’re running frequencies. Slowly, you can’t do it fast. To find out what are effective ones and what are not effective. You know how long it takes to do that? It’s an incredibly tedious thing. Because on a great mass(?) sure, there are some clues, and you follow those clues. But that’s only the start point. That’s what, indeed, takes the time. There are some interesting clues. And whether some of these --- PAGE 21 (OCR) --- ether devices provide these clues, I don’t know, because I haven’t seem them. But I would certainly think that they would, because the knowledge and the information is quite common. Human resonance is one thing. Very common. Goodness sakes, I’ve got to get something dene, with all this talking! Yes sir. Audience? (Can’t hear?) Bob: You don’t want me to do that tonight, no. No, you see, you’ve blown all the time in talking and answering questions. Tf can’t do it tonight. And besides, you’ve got to be in a much more suave approach. TI hate to use the word sophisticated, but ~- you’ve got to be past Focus 12 before we talk about those things. In other words, get things under control. I’m not ducking things out, it’s just that I’m lazy tonight, too. Audience: What focus level, if any, corresponds to H-Plus access channel? Bob: It’s funny. We had to find a place to put it. It’s Focus 11 - between 10 and 12! Yeah, that’s where it is. And after you’ve done, if you have done a bunch of H-Plus, you’1ll feel it as you go through. You’ll say, oh, where’s the access channel, when you hit the 11. And it’s like a big ___? It’s just a funny feeling. You feel that something’s missing there, when you go through here. We don’t use it here, of course, in Gateway. That’s where it is. Let me get my things done, huh? This where it is? Let’s get down to the details of, again, take this as it is, how it is, where it is, think about it, and then you go find out and get it as a known with you. --- PAGE 22 (OCR) --- 10 Think of an energy field that permeates all time/space and beyond. In other words, it’s not limited to time/space. Think of that type of energy field. There’s a lot of things that suggest that we utilize that energy field unknowingly. And that thought, as such, is a utilization of that field. So, that we do it. TI can give you an illustration, if you want, how animals use that. Not knowingly, of course. But they do use it. So, if this is the case, it is not time/space dependent. And that’s important that you know. So, where we are then - think of this as the physical universe, here, and that it was inserted into this energy field. But it is not this energy field, and we call it the M-field, because that’s one of the few letter we could find that didn’t have some other meaning. And it’s been called things through history. All sorts of labels have been put on this field. But this field, inserted into this field, was that physical universe. And that physical universe is a hologram? Who knows. It is not of this M-field energy, that’s the important thing. Over here, and you go find this out for yourself, is a mirror image of this physical universe. This is to say, we’re in the Plus one, and this is a minus one. This is a different polarity. And this, on a broad scale, is that we n spend an eternity or an infinity or entire energy exploring this physical This is what we are doing, basically, culturally. This is the only thing that is important, is this particular universe. Gur scientists are beginning ta suspect that this exists. --- PAGE 23 (OCR) --- a1 Well, children, I’ve got news for you. There is a way you can go explore it, if you want. I don’t particularly recommend it’s not that different from here. There’s not too it, because much to be learned from it, if you are in a learning mode. Curiusity is pretty good for a while. You can go find that replica of you that’s there. The negative you, as it were. And we're talking signs ~ it doesn’t make any difference. Maybe we’re the negative one, and they’re the positive one - that’s what they think. But it is a mirror image. And there are ways you can go find out. So that gives you an idea of perspective as to who, where you are. There used ta be a T-shirt out that pointed to a galaxy, and went down and said, “You are here." But we are here, somewhere, in this particular sojourn. Alright. Well, the heck with it, I’11 draw another one. It’s just faster. There’s a very important way of describing things, and I like to get things as pragmatic as possible. Let’s put it this way, and that particular line we’ll call an LD for line of demarcation. Which separates two somethings, right? Alright, so that two somethings on that one something, let’s put it down here and say, this something down here ig here. Alright, that’s very simple. Any wild animal can find that out. And here are where knowns exists. What we know. And so therefore, there is no fear here ag such. Because we are purportedly don’t fear knowns. What we know, we don’t fear. So, if we take that position, we come up here, and what will And h we call this up here exe are the Unknowns. And of course, --- PAGE 24 (OCR) --- then, because it’s unknown, ig a source of fear. Now, a cute Littl thing happens on the way to the store. And that is that we have what we call And they straddle along this line of demarcation, in what might fondly be called the Belief System Territories, or BS territories, for short. And they, in turn, are composed, all of them are composed partly of unknowns - otherwise they wouldn’t be a belief system. So, they all have that fear of the unknown built inte il. Now, a belief system can become a known, if you reduce the ement of it into a known. Then it becomes a known. unknown e& Se, this is fend of side 2} --- PAGE 25 (OCR) --- BOB’S TALK - 10.7.90 side 3 deing - again, a