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Dreams, Nightmares, and Future Memories | MJL & Robert Monroe #34 -- MUq4d3pWFTs

2024-11-14 · Video publication date

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[00:27:00] kind could heal the mechanism could heal itself and so it's a matter of adjusting the environment more than doing something the ones who are irreparably insane simply have to be taken care of um it's just a process [00:27:30] that some pain that they have to work through and work out um how would the schizophrenic fit into this pattern well most schizophrenics are actually damaged in this lifetime by their environment [00:28:00] um Early Childhood patterns but they come in with um this is what brings it on but they have less um natural immunity um okay let's see how to put that they have [00:28:30] less protection it's like there's a protective coating of some sort the words aren't right but there's a there's a protection around our vital force our Vital energy that comes in and there seem to be in individuals born [00:29:00] with less protection than others and if those particular individuals are treated in a certain way in the human condition they break down another individual could be placed in that same environment and wouldn't break down and become schizophrenic um drugs play a large role in in this any kind of [00:29:30] drugs cause a breakdown and those individuals who are less protected um so the schizophrenics would fit into the pattern of a leakage um a um be a specific type of [00:30:00] pattern where the individual moves too far into another state of consciousness and is unable to distinguish between his reality and the consensus reality is it possible uh for us to in any way help restructure uh such an individual so [00:30:30] that he is rest strengthened in some form H says that there may be methods that are outg growths of this kind of method we're using to reach into other [00:31:00] Consciousness let that what he saying said the teaching methods may be devised to help these individ uals [00:31:30] maintain maintain the ability to distinguish which state of consciousness they're in but that during the time they're in an acute phase of schizophrenia that again it's just a matter of allowing them to heal that they are so open and so raw um that any form [00:32:00] of active treatment um is unpredictable is it possible then to help them identify uh this consensus reality properly and the other Consciousness which is interfering with this yes but not during an acute phas not during the acute phase could be very interesting [00:32:30] then to pick up another thing that seemed interesting in terms of this question of of Dreams where does what we label nightmare uh the fit into that and where does that fit into this whole pattern this deeply moving nightmare experience well H says that this is an [00:33:00] exaggeration of the emotions that are felt in the human body and ordinary Consciousness or they are either felt in ordinary Consciousness and exaggerated in the nightmare or in some cases are blocked um so that when it would be appropriate to [00:33:30] be angry the person isn't angry and that emotion comes out in the nightmare in some other form uh the dream state doesn't always distinguish the separate emotions um like sorting out uh love and hate and fear and joy and anger sorrow [00:34:00] um when there's just a strong emotion it has to be released some way or sometimes it's clearcut what it's about and those are the dreams we can analyze and bring to the surface issues that the person patient if it's in somebody in treatment bring to the [00:34:30] surface the underlying problem through the dream also he says there are some nightmares particularly children's nightmares that come from a former life memories some tragic or frightening [00:35:00] memories and that the physical body reacts in Terror because the memory comes through so that the typical nightmare situation of the person stiffening or Screaming or becoming very tense what changing the breathing sometimes even going into almost a state [00:35:30] of tetany um is due to the fear and of course due to the change change breathing pattern it as the fear gets develops very good then here was another Point um is [00:36:00] it possible for example uh as you are now for Hans uh to help you have a forward memory in time for example can you have a forward memory of a week from now which would be uh March 14th and have you see what March 14th is in forward memory can he help you do this now ask [00:36:30] him oh he says I still have some investment in um being correct and um in uh what does he say in [00:37:00] um my part of me that I've dealt with to a great extent but there still part of that kind of perfectionist part and that's interfering um he says he he has tried from time to time to put flashes of future memory [00:37:30] into my mind my conscious mind and sometimes it's been effective and other times it hasn't but that when I lose that final hanging on to perfectionism it will be very easy um he says I can lie still for a minute [00:38:00] or two and he can try so I'll do that all right that'd be very interesting I'll wait myself in my office wearing something blue and uh there clouds outside but it's not raining it's um the morning maybe about 10:30 [00:38:30] what has what has taken place during the past week then on some kind of a difficulty about the transportation [00:39:00] focusing on difficult back to California it's okay works out something about the reservation thriving in a lot of rain [00:39:30] Awakening the next day to Sunshine seems really specific enough to have any other meaning I mean that would be different or out of the ordinary what well you seen something about the this Panama [00:40:00] Canal treaty and it's not at least by that time it's not ratified heavy snow heavier snow through a lot of the United States [00:40:30] lot of work stoppage this scan is not very specific just has a general feeling of they phrase G was a general feeling of the storm before the C very good that's one way to put it I sort of had the feeling that later in [00:41:00] March things smooth out for a while less know less s and less somehow people begin to throw out they it seem to be less um more violence where does the coal strike in or does it [00:41:30] it will be past the 14th before it's settled mhm very good but I can see what he says um what he said to me earlier I'm watching the interference that's see it's like something will Flash and then my mind [00:42:00] will try to uh evaluate it and um I have to let go of that I haven't done that yet ask him if uh if in this future memory we've heard so many things about uh Earth changes in California ask him if you you can come anywhere near a good picture of that uh without being a perfectionist [00:42:30] cuz I'm too emotionally involved in it that's what I suspected also says that I will clearly um be aware just prior to any major changes that will certainly be helpful [00:43:00] MH do we have any uh then we can lean on your awareness for the next say six months well he says all I can say willing to say is it I'll be aware prior to a major catastrophe very good mm he says there might be a minor one very soon [00:43:30] um following of the rain what does he mean by minor that earthquake or series of earthquakes but I mean nothing's minor even if a person [00:44:00] one person is killed but in terms of a catastrophe um it will just be regarded as a warning um I can't seem to get very clear it's true [00:44:30] you're you're emotionally involved and he's right I get Fresno something around about Fresno but I don't get much Clarity on it fine um let's then move to something else and let him uh if he still is happy and willing to try something else [00:45:00] mhm I asked him about the question of of in terms of mind brain and the use of various frequencies whether they be audio or magnetic uh do these have specific specific effects on the mind or the brain uh we are using some now for for example are there others that uh [00:45:30] let's say are contraindicated and others that are beneficial has he any ideas on those well says it doesn't affect the mind it affects the brain um and then that stimulates [00:46:00] the Mind process yes there would be magnetic forces that could be damaging to the brain um radioactive forces are damaging to the [00:46:30] brain any specific uh frequencies that might cause uh damaging resonances as it were yes there are but he's not telling me specifically there are frequencies that would be absolutely [00:47:00] tormenting he doesn't know them or it's just a policy winning the reason we ask is so that we can avoid them well he says that um again like he's done this with me before I I don't [00:47:30] quite understand this may be something to to do with my own instrument but um apparently he doesn't or isn't able to transmit technical information to me that my mind isn't familiar with and I don't I ask him what difference that makes and I don't understand that [00:48:00] we're talking about it um he says it has to do with a particular type of channel that this instrument is that what it has to do with a highly developed intellectual Center that does block out [00:48:30] certain unfamiliar information and I'm arguing with him about that that it isn't sensible and he says that I at some time can be and probably will be refined to the extent that there won't be those blocks but to go back in terms of the frequency the sound frequency it's a very very high sound one that cannot normally be heard at all um that there's [00:49:00] no danger of you using it in your work it is it's not um I mean it's so far removed from what you're considering but that there are sounds that are damaging could cause permanent damage to the brain could cause a person to become insane and die I was glad to know that there's so far away from what we're using or intend to [00:49:30] use then um um one other part of it what is the process that we know of as music then for example uh how does this relate to an activity of the brain and then the mind [00:50:00] he's talking about it's a little hard for me to understand he's talking about the music being already there [00:50:30] and the music is already there it exists and I'm saying well but what about somebody's gets out his violin and starts playing it and then we hear it that seems to take place in a linear fashion but that's our [00:51:00] perception music he says music is an arrangement of sounds um that are always available but some of them have an emotional effect on humans and why is this emotional effect created [00:51:30] by music well each tone is connected to a color it's connected to a an emotion connected to the centers in the body [00:52:00] is there any way that we can determine uh what tones are connected to what colors and what tones are connected to what parts of the body is there any source for this oh he says this is all this has been written up it's available um in the esoteric [00:52:30] literature there are a number of I see a book um Harmony color and Harmony I can just read Harmony on the cover but he's saying that this this isn't um a unexplored territory that it's already available to us which is perhaps [00:53:00] some reliable source that is accurate he's telling me uh if I want this information to contact a friend names the friend who's a a musician and involved in music therapy you know the friend then yes good good [00:53:30] how what is uh related to all of this and where does emotion fit into this human uh body mind soul structure is emotion a valuable thing an annoyance a hindrance or something to be devel emotion is a integral an integral part of the [00:54:00] human condition we have to maintain an equilibrium within the body between the physical and the emotional the mental and the spiritual each is equally important while one [00:54:30] is inhabiting a human body um the equilibrium is the big message the um balance is very important um so that while one