Researching Brain Coherence at the Monroe Institute with Nancy Walter -- IDrSwabjses

[00:32:30] I wouldn't say that's the only thing that I've been doing, but I do think that that did make a difference being part of that program. Uh, I also recently did Toad Toxin. Um, do you do you know about that where you It's um I don't know what the official word for it is, but it's literally from a toad where if if you lick the toad, you would die. I didn't lick the toad, but you in a [00:33:00] very controlled environment, um, a facil facilitator has you smoke a tiny bit and it's it's not fun. Like I I did not It kind of makes you feel like your brain's exploding for a second, but um about 3 days after that was when I just started to get like so tired by 11:00 at night and I've been going to sleep ever since. Uh, I would never want to do it again because it just my whole body got [00:33:30] really hot and didn't feel good. But it but that seemed to do a reset and that and I was already going in that direction after the Monroe study. So, I'd say those two things combined like I'm back on track now and getting full night sleep. Are you noticing a difference in the types of participants who come to Monroe? And specifically, do you find that more [00:34:00] of them already have some level of experience with psychic development or meditation? Uh are you seeing a difference compared to the people that came in even a few years ago? the people that find themselves at Monroe Institute have already started a journey. Um, very rarely would I find someone who just showed up out of the blue and said, you know, I'm here for a [00:34:30] program. They usually have started their journey prior to that and then came to know about Monroe through their association with someone else or maybe they're listening to things um in social media. We don't see an uptick in people that are having exceptional experiences or exceptional abilities before they come but they are coming as a result of that. The difference that we are starting to see is that and I think this [00:35:00] is because of the global um reach that is available with the social media. Now we're seeing young people younger and younger who are pursuing these paths and really putting a lot of effort into being more consciously aware. And I just want to say one thing about the the sleep study. When I was started the sleep study, I had to participate in the technology [00:35:30] first. And so I had the ring on, the aura ring and I'm collecting data and I'm looking at my numbers, not really thinking anything about it until the first intervention group came to campus and they began complaining about their sleep numbers and how poorly they had been sleeping and they were mentioning you know oh you know my numbers are like 80% 85 [00:36:00] uh 70% and it dawned on me that my sleep numbers were as low as the 40s. And so as a result of the sleep study, um I think it was I started to meditate more consciously cuz I just consider myself to be one of those people that is just too busy to do it. [00:36:30] But within a week of meditating consciously with the Monroe Sound Science, my numbers improved one my very first night where was I saw an improvement. I went from a 46 to an 89. >> Wow. >> And that was significant for me. And I do notice a difference between when I do meditate and when I don't meditate and how poorly I sleep. I expect to sleep pretty well tonight because I did meditate earlier today. [00:37:00] >> It's awesome to have those tools. I I find that one of my issues is I'll start to do psychic work before I go to bed. Like I'll have a number of remote viewing sessions I have to do for clients. And so I'll start to, you know, be like, "Okay, well, I'm not totally tired yet. I'll just start to tune into this session and that has an impact on sleep for sure. Then you're waking up [00:37:30] all night long and writing things down and um but you know riding that theta wave is really helpful sometimes for getting data and can you talk a little bit about that since the sound science can put you into that theta state. Do you believe that's why remote viewers do sometimes find it helpful cuz it's bringing them into that place where they can access data maybe having like [00:38:00] clearer visions or um what would you say is happening when they're listening to it >> without having the data behind it. I I it's my theory that yes, they're operating in these lower frequencies which is more calming for the brain and for the body to be in that theta range and even a meditative alpha range which then as as you understand opens your [00:38:30] mind up to be in tune with so much more than you would be if you're operating in the beta range which is a constant thinking and bliss making and just going inwards just that that monkey mind that a lot of people experience when they first start meditating. So it does take practice to get your brain to calm down to stay in a theta and alpha range. And [00:39:00] the music that we have specifically constructed for uh relaxation and for actually for sleep do rely on the delta and the theta ranges to put you into a a relaxed state. So then your brain would naturally want to transition into a sleep cycles as well. So yes, people who practice the exceptional abilities, whether it's remote viewing, psychic [00:39:30] mediumship, they often come with a meditative practice as well that then helps them um transition quicker into a more relaxed state where then they're then open to receiving that information that might not be available if their brain is engaged in other activities. And then one problem that people [00:40:00] name as a problem is that they're too easily falling asleep when they are doing any kind of meditation and especially listening to the music when they're at Monroe or elsewhere. So what do you say about that? How can people listen and get the maximum benefit if they're falling asleep? So, when you initially start a meditation practice, [00:40:30] it is quite often the situation where you're going to fall asleep because your brain is not used to being so calm unless it's ready for bed. So, you naturally fall asleep. But at Monroe, we um we see two types of people. people who fall asleep during the meditation and they'll actually start snoring or dreaming. And then we have those who would say that they they check out where they know [00:41:00] they're meditating. They know they're that they've been a awake and aware of what's going on, but they don't consciously remember what happened during that meditation. So with those people, we tell them to um set an intention before you meditate. Set an intention to remember, set an intention to um meditate about a certain aspect or even try guided meditations as well. that will help someone avoid for example [00:41:30] this this morning when I was meditating I was listening to a track that I um for the first time I' not listened to this one previously and I listened to it for half an hour versus the 10 minutes that you can choose as well and I was very conscious of what was going on. It was a guided meditation with a space in between for you to have your own um time. So I had [00:42:00] set an intention and then I found myself actually um my consciousness was trying to go out of body multiple times and I know I was awake. So when I felt that that jerking motion, I know I wasn't nodding off because I was been I was in a deep meditation and I was having concentrating these thoughts together around the meditation and I don't appreciate having out of [00:42:30] body experiences. So I just want to say that upfront. So >> really what Let me ask you what why is that? >> I I don't know. I've had them since I was a a child. And I think some of us just hold on to that. Uh there's that little fear that if you go out of body that you might not come back. And that's something that we can't always control. It's just a natural um it's just natural for some of us to feel like if we're going out of body, our consciousness is [00:43:00] going out of body. You know, where are we going? Are we going to come back? Are we going to be able to make it back? So, it's not a a conscious decision that I do to not go out of body or to go out of body. It's something that has been occurring on its own, which I don't necessarily appreciate. I think it's more of the sensation of being um jerked out of my body that is disconcerting and I just don't appreciate. [00:43:30] Yeah, that that's very interesting since so many people will come to Monroe or spend years trying to get out of body, >> right? Do you find that there are some people who have never been able to get on the body and then they start to after being at Monroe or at least people like yourself who found it uncomfortable and then it [00:44:00] made a difference or do you think some people just are not going to get past that? >> I think you can train yourself to get past it. We've definitely had people who have been trying for years to have an out-of- body experience and then they come to campus and they find that they're able to relax enough to then have that first experience. And then there's people like me who um they say, "Oh, I was about to, but then you know [00:44:30] it stopped or the sensation went away." And most likely it's because that fear started to rise up or that that doubt or they started to focus. It's like focusing on the one thing and then having that thing, you know, dissipate because you're focused on it. So sometimes it's it's a balance between not focusing too hard, not trying too hard, and also is the body willing to allow that that experience because it it [00:45:00] can it can be um it can be different. Let's say that >> different than what you're typically used to in >> Yes. C can you give some examples when when you say different like what are some symptoms that one is starting to separate from the body. [00:45:30] Some people report feeling a vibration or a a falling sensation or a jerking sensation and then others report um seeing themselves from up above. So maybe they're laying down and then they're able to see themselves um from like the ceiling and then other people report being able to feel the bumping into walls or seeing things that are occurring in other rooms that they [00:46:00] shouldn't be aware of because they're removed from the situation. So it's I call them either classical out of body um sensations or non-class. So it can be many different things and uh no one's been able to define what an out-of- body experience is that would be a script for everybody. >> What have you been doing lately at the [00:46:30] Monroe Institute as far as research? research at Monroe Institute. We have some ongoing protocols that we have kept moving along. Uh one of them is with our program discovery where we collect EEG data while the um participant is in a meditation and that is across 4 days probably about 8 to 10 meditations across those four days. So it's quite a [00:47:00] bit of data. So that's ongoing data collection and we're getting into the stages now of we'll be publishing soon multiple papers on that and we also collect data on a couple of new ones as well. >> And can you talk about your initial findings with that study? We are seeing brain differences between participants who get a um a number one [00:47:30] hit on a remote viewing target and then between those that do not get a number one hit on the target. So that's interesting. Um but we're also looking at brain wave patterns and looking within clusters. So the participants, they're like four to a table and we're looking across time if they're developing uh relationships and possible some brain synchronization and