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[00:16:00] what would AI be able to do? >> AI would reduce that time to seconds versus you know hours. So it's a but again it's just a matter of teaching it exactly what to look for which isn't a lengthy process but considering we're involved in collecting the data and so many other aspects to the job we're trying to send that off
[00:16:30] for other people to handle for us. So it's finding the right people to do that as well. And are there other things that you're using AI for in your research? >> Uh, analysis. So, I do survey research as well. And you know as well as I do being a recent graduate and a continuing researcher,
[00:17:00] the uh examining the data is just finding correlations between a couple of variables. when you have many many data points is timeconuming versus you can put that into a spreadsheet and then upload it to AI and then just ask it to give you whatever significant correlations it finds but even then it's still a process of using logic as well the it's more timeconuming
[00:17:30] to teach the AI to have your knowledge than it is just to look at the data yourself most of the time. >> So, I get asked questions all the time about Monroe's audio programs and whether or not they enhance one's remote viewing skills. What would you say about that? I would say that
[00:18:00] the subjective data definitely points towards that our music does enhance the person's um remote viewing capabilities. There are other ways to uh evolve your skills as well, but through our program, we do find that they're able to um bump up those skills
[00:18:30] quicker using the audio technology than they would just practice alone. So when you say that your audio programs or music can make a difference for people's remote viewing skills, how are they using it? Are they using it like as ongoing meditation and then over time they see a difference or is it immediate where they come to the institute, you
[00:19:00] test them without the music and then they listen to some music and you test them again. We do see a difference in their skill level between day one and then say day five where their skills improve across their program. For the remote viewing, we're not we haven't specifically looked with EEG except for in the discovery program. That's one I would one study I would
[00:19:30] really like to get going is to be able to test people before they start listening to our audio technology and then several days later or even a followup some post date. But it's very rare to find people who come to Monroe who haven't already started listening to at least some audio technology whether it's the binaural beats that they are listening to online
[00:20:00] which is not as effective because um binaural beats if you listen to them for pro a sustained amount of time the brain starts to become habituated to it and and it you'll no longer see those uh the following response for those. The brain just tunes it out. But with our new sound technology, we have designed using several different audio techniques, including binaural beats, phase
[00:20:30] modulation, um, and a 3D soundsscape that actually does not elicit that habituated response any longer. Your brain is constantly looking for the changes in our signals. So it pays attention a lot stronger than it would if you were just listening to binaural beats which which is just the
[00:21:00] difference between two different tones say 100 htz and a four and 104 hertz. Then your brain then decides that there's just the difference between the two which is four hertz. And then after a while of listening to that, your brain says, um, you know, okay, that's boring. You no longer want to listen to that, so we're not going to pick up on it. Versus our audio technology that changes that throughout the tracks and keeps the participants brain engaged in the
[00:21:30] exercises. >> And what is the theory behind the sound technology? Why would it make a difference with remote viewing and why would it make more of a difference than other types of meditation? So with the audio technology, you're looking at brain synchronization across hemispheres, which occurs during
[00:22:00] meditation, but during the use of the audio technology, it occurs in a shorter period of time. We've had monks who come to campus by listening to the audio technology gets people to be in a meditative state that took them years to cultivate on their own without audio technology. So you're saying that people who already
[00:22:30] have been using other methods of meditation will come to the institute and do the sound technology and find a difference even though they had already been doing meditation for a number of years. Yes, it's been uh the subjective reportings, yes, have indicated that there's more growth with listening to uh the audio technology, uh quicker
[00:23:00] and more advanced than having been in practice for several years. And sometimes I wonder since when people come to Monroe the basic protocol is that they are put into rooms where they sleep but then they have these pods and throughout the day there'll be periods where they go in they go into their pod close the curtains and listen to the
[00:23:30] music and then they will after 30 minutes to an hour then I'll meet back in the main room and discuss what just happened. So, I sometimes wonder, is it really just the sound technology or is it that they had an hour or so of quiet time where there it was dark, there was nothing else to do. So, they're being put into this specialized environment
[00:24:00] and then they're coming together as a group and all the people are together. So, how do you sort out all these different variables to then be able to say it's the sound technology as opposed to all these other elements that come together when people go into a program? Well, we've gotten feedback from people that use our app who have not necessarily who have not ever taken a program because it's uh our app is far
[00:24:30] more accessible than coming to campus is. And we also have the same subjective reporting through people who are taking the pre-recorded um courses that are offered online or even the virtual courses that are offered online. So, it's not necessarily the uh the check unit, the pod itself or even being in that group environment.
[00:25:00] we're seeing those reports from people just using the app and from people who are um taking courses virtually as well. So there's a there's something to be said about those experiences being similar whether you're on campus or off campus or simply using the app for meditations. And I know so many people absolutely love their experience when they go to
[00:25:30] Monroe and they say it's absolutely life-changing. I have students who come and tell me about their experiences and say that. But not everyone responds well to the sound technology as you know when I came there for to participate in that study and we weren't doing really we weren't doing the gateway program. we were just doing uh you had us listening to just some of the different music and
[00:26:00] then we would go and and process it, but I found that it started to kind of drive me crazy. Not literally, but you know, it it was it was I had a hard time with it. And so when I came and talked to you about that, you said there was a small percentage of people who don't respond that great to it. Can you talk about why that might be? >> So the music that was provided during
[00:26:30] that particular study was um specialized just for that study. So it's not any it's not anything that you would find on the app. But the differences the the people that I have heard from that say some of the music is uh not as pleasing for them as other tracks might be. I have found it to be
[00:27:00] when the track might be heavily laid with gamma frequencies, but then not just gamma frequencies. I think it's an individual response as well. And that my my theory is that it's very dependent upon the person and how their brain functions. Some of us prefer to be operating in those lower frequencies. We're we're calm most of the time. were very alert and paying attention. But in
[00:27:30] those lower frequencies of like alpha, theta, and delta where some people who might be highowered business people who are always on the go, very, you know, outgoing, gregarious, they function primarily in beta and then gamma. So, I've been seeing psychics and mediums who tend to prefer the lower frequencies are more sensitive to gamma frequencies,
[00:28:00] but that's not always a given. But that is one of my theories that I'm uh I'll be doing a study on. Well, I found as a longtime meditator that I go faster and faster into a trans state. So I do find that if I'm for example I took an extended remote viewing class and the induction phase
[00:28:30] was about an hour and also I've had hypnotherapists who will do sessions with me and they have a long induction phase and that drives me totally nuts because I'm already in the trans state within basically like 15 seconds or less but then it's so uncomfortable for the body to have to just continue to I I don't know what it's doing relaxing more and more but it's like come on people
[00:29:00] let's just you know let's go to our session now we don't need all of this but that's happened after 30 years of you know hours long meditations at a time so that yeah I think you might be on to something there and then can you talk about that study are are you allowed to talk about it because I know you had private funders for that. I don't give >> specific results but I can say that
[00:29:30] there there were differences between the control group and the intervention group where we saw um increases in uh latency um increases and uh REM and deep sleep. So there were definite improvements in the group that was listening to the audio tracks that were delivered on campus even at a six
[00:30:00] week followup. And we followed participants as you know we follow participants as early as 6 weeks before they came to campus and then for 6 weeks after they left campus and then the control group for just as long of a period of time. So people might say that maybe it was just um their meditation or their habits. How do we know there was a real difference in physiology? Um and it wasn't just due to paying attention to the output from the um
[00:30:30] biotechnology that was used to collect their data. And we definitely saw a difference between those before they came to campus and then after they left campus. there was a that's when the shift occurred in their improvement in their sleep and even at 6 weeks there was still that those uh changes were still evident. >> And you were using the Aura ring to monitor our physiology, right? So when
[00:31:00] we were going to sleep and when we were waking up and our heart rate and our resilience and everything. So, and how strong were those results or was the effect? >> They were significant. Um, that's that's about what I can say with that. That the differences were significant um pre-post and uh between groups as well.
[00:31:30] >> And are you able to say who was involved in initiating that study or funding it? >> Nothing like that. But >> private information. >> Okay. And yeah, you know, I do have to say that that study was what maybe about a year ago or not even do you remember when it was? >> It was it's coming up on a year. So August >> August will be a year that it was
[00:32:00] completed. >> Yeah. I do have to say that I have pretty much resolved my years long of insomnia and going to sleep. Uh probably as you know cuz you'd get emails from me at like 3:00 a.m. And now I am pretty consistently getting to bed before midnight and sometimes even by 11. Now,