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a part of that. And since then I've used it with my mother. I've used it with various dogs, cats
and rabbits, that it's successful every single time I've passed it on to other friends and it's just
been a wonderful gift in my life and others.
14:21
You know, I've done a lot of hospice work over the years. And they actually have a two set one
is for those spouses or partners willing to participate for the healthy individual and one for the
person that's making the transition. And the difference basically is for the healthy person or
health and for affirmations, about wellness and the one for the person that's going to pass on
aren't on there. You don't want to send a confusing message. But the I have about a third
Have the relationships choose to participate in both. And they tend to find really profound
experiences. It's kind of, you know, we find deaths, so uncomfortable. And this is a process of,
you know, thank goodness, a lot of our hospices, attitudes are changing. Now families are
getting more involved. But I can think of one couple in particular, who would listen to various
exercises or tapes and experience it together and discuss it. And what their thoughts were one
of the thoughts is some of these areas, it takes you to our areas of some real clear thinking
and insight, and then you might get a kind of a little taste or idea of what the afterlife might be
like. And I think that that relieves a lot of fear for people. And it's even more wonderful for the
partner accompany them, because they have an idea of of what the other person's going
through. And they're sharing with the partaking. So it can be an absolutely incredible
experience, instead of what we normally consider a very sad about bringing joy, it's always
great.
16:24
I was just reminded of something else, as Brian was talking to, and I thank you for saying what
you did. Because at the time of the car crash, I went through a near death experience. And I
went through the tunnel and into a vibrant garden. And my father appeared who had been
gone for about 10 years. And I thought, because if you don't speak there, how happy I was to
see him again. And he thought back then he was glad to be with me as well. But I couldn't
stay. And I was saying no, no, no, I'm not going, I'm staying here. And he said no, that I hadn't
purpose I had to fulfill and I had to go back and do that. And I asked what in the world it was.
And he just thought I would know when the time came when I found out. And I didn't realize till
I started writing my first book that that was my purpose, to use my experiences to help others. I
think that's the most important thing in life to help others. So whenever I've been with
somebody who's making their transition and use going home, I've been able to reassure them
that I've already been on that pathway. And I know what fun it is to die, and I will never be
afraid of it and that they shouldn't be either. Because it's just such a happy, overwhelmingly
Happy, happy place, and happy event.
17:51
I think the most critical factor is to learn that you must take care of yourself, so that you have
the energy to help other people. So your primary responsibility is not to be a drag on the rest of
the people. Take care of yourself first. And then you can put all your energy towards it. And
you know, I've said for many years that if I were, you know, trommel, so to speak, I just want to
be in my bed listening to Gregorian chants. But now I think it'd be going home. Yeah, I've
never feared death. I have absolutely no fear of it. To me. It's a perfectly normal part of life.
18:32
Yes. Well, you know, as is kind of a funny point, from the day we're born, blown with taxes, you
can be sure we're going to die. We spent so much time avoiding it or thinking about it. Instead
of planning. Last year's meaning Scott Taylor talked about a woman he was helping who was
totally fearful of death. And he said, you know, you get to have a party when you get there.
You get to choose who's going to greet you. Have you ever heard that? You might have friends
or family? Yeah, I ain't heard that. Well, who would you want to be? Well, I'd want my parents
sure who else went through a litany. So what kind of party and to make glossary short sheets
chose to have a barbecue River. By the time they got it became a big event. And she wound
up passing a few hours later. And I thought what a beautiful way to see the beauty of this
instead of the fear of what was for her going to be an unknown
19:41
that a beautiful party, but a great center.
19:43
Yeah, it was and she was looking forward to it. So it's a good. One of
19:49
the other things. I'd like to say thank you, first of all for sharing your story during the talk, but
also to elaborate further is it seems To me that you've taken the opportunity to go through a
crisis, a very traumatic experience, and you actually changed it into a complete transformation,
something that even transcended what we'd call regular normal existence. And there's leaps
and bounds. By what I mean, when I say that. Could you talk a little bit more about that, sir,
20:21
I'd be glad to. I guess what was interesting in my first life, which was very traditional and
conservative, I was married, I had two children, I owned a clothing and gift shop, and my life
was just very narrow and straight. And then after the skirt, and I was a model from the time I
was in my teens, and I was used to people looking at me with admiration. And then with this
car crash all the sudden, when I had no face anymore, and people looked at me the book, the
borrower, was as if everything was just erased from what had been there before. And I realized
that the values of having a successful career and a marriage and children were not the same
values. In my second life. I always celebrate the birthday of that car crash, it's my second life.
But I had to change the values for my new wife. And I had to really think about what I cared
about with that. And so my yoga and Sufi teacher came to visit me in the hospital once I was
out of the coma, and he left me with some quotes to think about, and one was, what has
happened has happened, when I'm going through, I shall rise above and what will come I will
meet with courage by has read, and I can. And I really thought about that afterwards. And I
realized that my new life, my second life needed to be about love and harmony, and beauty
and peace and helping others and more values, instead of monetary and social values and
needed to be more inside values. I learned to look at the light bulbs, and not the lamp shades
in my second light. So it really changed my whole focus. And I just, everything I did from then
on was with a totally different purpose. And it's made me different. I already was different. But
now I'm really different. And I love it.
22:25
That's just an honor along the same topics. During one of the workshops, my my friend and my
my business partner, Brian is said, you know, I want to invite the friend of mine that I know for
a number of decades, Dr. Norman Shealy. And they said, Who is better known surely. And
then a Google? Did I say, oh, like not really? Okay. That'd be fantastic. And, interestingly
enough, that not really came to a workshop. And that just sparked the relationship that literally
changed my the entire course of my personal universe, my personal existence. But now, at this
point, I know where I'm going, joining Dr. Dr. Schilling norm in terms of being pursuing a truly
holistic path.
23:19
Thank you. May I May I comment on that, please, it is appropriate. And you can decide
through basically, since 1972, I have explored reincarnation and I no longer believe in
reincarnation, because I know that is the way it is I've done hundreds of sessions with
individuals, I've had many of them myself. I had spontaneous recalls. And when I met Sergej, I
knew him. And together, we were together, at least one previous life with a Francis. And
Sergej is one of my brothers from the time when we were together with two other brothers that
we now know. And St. Francis himself is reincarnated, and you're going to meet him in
September. Looking forward at the same place where we met is seen this fall. And, and to me,
this is also part of the whole is recognizing these interconnections. And one of my favorite
statements from Edgar Casey is you never walk down the street and pass them when you
have another previous life. So if it's a problem, it's chance to clean up all unfinished business.
And if it's not a problem, it's a chance to redo friendships.
24:44
Absolutely.
24:48
What a fantastic meeting we're having, what a fantastic, wonderful group of people. And what
a fantastic way to conclude this.
24:58
Absolutely. Thank you.