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2016 Professional Seminar:
Second Lives-Hemi-Sync® in Surgery and Pain Control
(Norm Shealy, Gari Carter, Sergey Sorin)
(Transcript)
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00:10
So we're here at the Monroe Institute for the professional division meeting. And I have Dr.
Sergei serene, Dr. Norman Shealy, Gary Carter and Dr. Brian Daly here with us today.
00:21
Gary, you were here this week with us. And you were one of the keynote speakers, about your
experiences with using Hemi sync there, insert multiple surgeries that you had to go through.
And I was most inspired by your story. And I want to hear more about it for me.
00:39
Well, thank you, I appreciate that. In 1982, I was in a car crash, and the steering wheel got my
face and the engine gutted my legs, my face was a hole from the eyes down. And I wasn't
expected to live because of all the multiple injuries but I did. And then I had to have 10 years of
surgeries after that to reconstruct the face. Things were incredibly painful, I had no idea at the
beginning in a coma where I was or what was going on. And then when they started, they first
worked on the jaws and re fracturing both the jaws and making them meet and starting to
shake the lower part of the face. It didn't realize when they work on a face, they have to start
on the inside instead of the outside. So it's like building a house, you have to have the platform
and the foundation first. But the first surgery was incredibly painful. And I just thought I was
never going to make it through this. And after that, this very pushy friend called me up and said
she'd heard about some alternative pain control tapes that she thought might help me since I
had years ahead of me to do this. So the tapes arrived. And I was so excited to open the
package and I got a one ready in my little player and lay down on the bed and listened to it.
And I just felt amazing. After that I felt great, no pain, I felt full of energy ready to take on the
world. And I jumped up ready to do that a million things. And then I was so dizzy and had to
get right back down and done again. So I learned to rest that was my first introduction to Hemi
sync. And it has just changed my life in such a wonderful way. The very next surgery was to
take out one of my ribs to make my nose. So I was going to our tube license instead of one
and I was really afraid of that. And I use the tapes right up until the time they started general
anesthesia and was not afraid didn't want to run out of the hospital for the surgery, as I had
before. And after the surgery, I was refreshed and felt okay, I use the tapes right away, never
used the first bit of pain medication, left the hospital in two days instead of 10. Because I
recovered. So well. I had minimal swelling and bruising was just amazing. So I use the tapes a
whole lot and recovered really quickly to be ready for the neck surgery. And with that I asked if
I could start using the emergency series in the ER instead of using general anesthesia. And
my doctor agreed. So all the rest of the 10 years were done with the help of Monroe, and it
was just one of the greatest gifts ever have in my life.
03:38
Back in the 60s, neurosurgeons were treating chronic pain by destroying part of the spinal cord
of the brain. And I began looking for alternative ways of managing pain that were not
destructive. In 1972, I learned about biofeedback. And so between that time and the later 70s I
began working with all kinds of chronic pain patients teaching them to go into very deep Delta,
brainwave activity and learn it myself as well. So then I did 76 registers. When I needed an
operation up through my nose, I was able to put myself into that state and not having any
anesthesia at all. Then I met, I met Bob Monroe that 75 And I got into Hemi sync and began
using it as an addition. Because to learn EEG, biofeedback is sort of tedious for a lot of people.
Hemi Sync does it for you it is that you put you at that state. And so I did have a number of
patients where we would look at what happened to them a deep relaxation with the addition of
MVC.
04:56
Yeah, so actually, I've been using it for a long time. Now kinda like norm. And I found it really
helpful for both myself and a lot of patients, you know, Sergey and I work a lot of shift work and
regular sleep hours. So some of the sleep CDs to induce sleep are really helpful. In particular, I
use catnapper a lot, which is a way to get a quick nap, something of the equivalent of an hour
and a half sleep at 30 minutes to wake up refresh. And I also find it very helpful at hospice at
the end of life transition, very often, person is sleeping quite a bit, understandably, they need it.
And people are flying from out of town. And this is a way for them to get an app to get
refreshed and be able to spend some quality time awake, being with family members, surgical
support series. It's got, you know, five tapes. There's one that you can listen to during the
surgery, and it has positive affirmations and tells you explains that the blood pressure is going
to be normal and such. And it works really successfully. I actually had a friend undergoing a
total hysterectomy who used it. The surgery sailed through easily. And postoperatively. She
had a patient controlled anesthesia with the morphine pump. And when the nurse came in and
saw that it hadn't been used, she turned to her and said you should be having pain. Why would
you use the medication so I haven't needed it. And she kept arguing with the patient. I thought,
what kind of message are you telling her? You say? Thank you? Well, I'm glad you're not if you
have need for it. There it is. And she actually took two Tylenol just to satisfy the nurse, which
was her only post operative medication for the entire procedure. When I was using the metal
music with a lot of chemotherapy patients, as you might understand a lot of have nausea and
vomiting issues. And it I found the meta music could improve the deep relaxation helped a lot
with the nausea and vomiting. And I asked Laurie, I had an idea about creating a heavy
suitcase exercise was specifically for chemotherapy patients that I was hoping she'd say yes,
but I was really pleased when she said hell yes. Because her mother had breast cancer. And
in I wrote the script, Dr. Miller narrated it, and we had the beta CD, the very first version, not
two weeks, and Gretchen who had been living in Amherst, Massachusetts came down to
Rochester to get treatment and she had just had the chemo the day before had been vomiting
for 24 hours, the last three leaving over the toilet. And I arrived at her house, we did a little
energy therapy over her third chakra to stop the vomiting so we could get her from the toilet
and in the bed, put the headphones on 45 minutes later, she took the headphones off. And the
first thing she said, Oh, that was a great friend. And it was Dr. Miller who had narrated the
positive immunity series she had done to bolster the immune system. And the second thing
she said is I feel great. And she sat down and eat lunch. Never had problems with nausea,
vomiting, the rest of her therapy, we actually shortened her chemo by four weeks because she
has such a great response. And we've seen similar things with other patients as well. So yeah,
I've found it useful a huge number of situations.
08:59
One of the examples that really stands out very strongly in my mind is this case of a 12 year
old young man, the family came in saying okay, he needs this and this and that. Okay, and
then when discharge, we ran out of this, so please give us give us a prescription. I had a little
time and they didn't quite agree with me at first but I said after they realized that I wasn't giving
them the decided to give it a chance. So I slept with him and the family I explained about the
breathing, the relaxation, some of the mental imagery, he was actually able to listen through
despite having a full blown panic attack. And we put the headphones on. And I told them if this
doesn't do the job in about 15 minutes, then don't worry medication will be coming within five to
10 minutes actually even less than that. I saw a big smile coming across the room. Actually, he
took the headphones on off and just announced in front of the family and to me it's I don't know
what this was, but I feel incredible. I think I can do this. And that truly is the message to me. In
the healthcare system, we are used to working with patients, you know, essential subjects, it's
a passive process, and they are relying on us to fix them, you can really fix something like this.
It has to come from within. But Norton truly is a pioneer in self regulation. And this is what it's
all about.
10:25
But my children are in the education field. And it's very interesting, because as they were
starting up in it, the Powell series came out. And Barbara Bullard was developing her special
meta music for helping with autistic children and children with ADHD and various other
learning disabilities. So my daughter has specializes in the developmentally disabled, which is
no longer the correct term to use for them, was working with a bunch of young boys, I think
adolescent boys, as she was practice teaching. And she every day, brought her boombox and
brought the better music that I'd given her. And the first day the boys all complained, they
didn't want to listen to any dumb music they wanted to do their thing was really hard for them,
difficulty reading and writing. And she kept on bringing the boom box for about a week. And
then one day she forgot it. And they all said right away, Miss garter, where's that music, we
can't do any work without that music. So she was convinced after that, and she uses it
frequently. And Barbara talks about many, many other applications of it with other teachers
and whether self teaching college students. So it's fascinating all this developed with that it's
really changed. Change learning, I think it's such a great way.
11:50
My wife, who already has a degree in chemical engineering and mid life 40, h 45, is going back
to college with all these 1818 20 year old student. And they noticed the old lady in the library
had headphones on in the asked, which he's listening to. And she said, Well, it's music to help
me study. So she gets a four row her first quarter. And now there's six students in the library
wearing headphones, she gets her second four, I'll make a long story short, she got a four row.
And by the time she finished over 50, plus students with headphones on in the library. And you
know, talking about the power series, that it's something that students can use a combination
of things to help, you know, with sleep and study and such.
12:42
I was living in Florida, and I raced every week with a lady sailing team, and one of our
members developed breast cancer again, and it was terminal and the whole team banded
together to take care of her. And so I brought in going home when it got to the later stages.
And what was so amazing is instead of small family or one or two caregivers taking care of this
person, it was 30 ladies who were all on a great computer schedule as to who showed up
when and there was always somebody there with her. So we just started playing going out
early, and it kept everybody calm, nobody got upset that anything. And our friend Lynn was
just flying through the whole thing just breezing along with with really no pain, no concern, just
very happy that everything. And the amazing part was at the very end, when she was really
past talking back to any of us anymore. When she heard Bob's voice on the tape saying there
are people there who will take care of you, she would repeat, take care of you every time just
up until the very, very end, when she passed, it was just beautiful. And I felt so fortunate to be